Planet X March 15

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Bellringer and a host of other NESARA-friendly sites have been going gaga about a new comet (Elenin) being the long-awaited earth killer, Niburu or Planet X. The NESARA link is to a supposed pole shift (note to Emil, er, Patrick - the magnetic pole and geographic pole are two different things, and the whole idea of a "tipping point" where earth falls over is ludicrous). Bellringer put up a link to a boring video where this person claims that it's all from an obscure Hopi prophecy about red and blue kachinas and gives March 15 as the date ("beware the ides of March - this is what the elites don't want you to know").

This led me to another video by the same person, where he complains that due to a simple error on his part (posting a fake picture) "brought out the trolls" to tell him he was full of it. This led me to yet another video, that had this comment:

This is why I wrote on another forum:
Anyone has heard about a POLE SHIFT?
Because they mention 15 MARCH which is 15.3 IS THE CHURCH CODE!
Also I have heard about a comet called E-LENIN.
This link compares it to the WORMWOOD comet in Revelation and we know that Rapture encoded with TCHERNOBYL (WORMWOOD in Ukrainian)

Some one else (on Gateway to Heaven) has posted a video that says that THERE WAS A MAJOR POLE SHIFT DURING THE CHI-LLY EARTHQUAKE!!!

Remember it was 2/27 and 227 IS THE JUNCTION CODE!
God goes down, Church goes up!

Also remember CHI-lean miners rescued 227 DAYS AFTER 2/27!

Also remember MAJOR/LONGEST SOLAR ECLIPSE of century/millennium was 22/7/2009!!!

In August 2009, God told me: "THIS YEAR, WE HAD A JUNCTION 'IN 22/7' IN THE HEAVENS"!!!!!!!!!!

E-LENIN...WORMWOOD...There is a connection here as I have said since the LENIN Mausoleum is MIXED with the Central LENIN because of one thing: A S-ARK-O-PHAGUS and because the Central LENIN is the official name of the Central CHERNOBYL, in the "CHERNOBYL - Z-ONE"!!!!!And Chernobyl is WORMWOOD IN UKRAINIAN!The Chernobyl Catastrophe caused the WATERS TO TURN BITTER!as well as the ground... hopelessly infected...
This guy must have one heck of a headache when he thinks these things. Chornobylnik is said to be Ukrainian for "mugwort," a relative of Wormwood (a cousin of sage that's quite bitter and was used medicinally) and after the disaster at Chernobyl some people made the link and claimed the end of the world was here because "Wormwood" is mentioned in Revelations.
"And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." (Revelation 8:10, 11 - KJB).
Since the Chernobyl disaster was almost 25 years ago, I'm not sure why it's mentioned here, but it's gotta somehow be related and PROVE that we're in for it on March 15. Write "End of the World" on this date on your calendars and circle it!
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Don't believe some guy named Astropatriot? How 'bout Jesus?
Comet Elenin predicted by scientists to make an extremely close pass this year (video and links)

This comet has the potential to be catastrophic to our planet this year. It was discovered by a Russian Astronomer Leonid Elenin this past December and estimated to pass by in October.

Also someone on youtube claims that an asteriod will hit somewhere near the Azores later this year and that a comet passing close by will grab hold of the Earth causing a 20 degree pole shift.

Plus, I found these prophetic messages to tie in with all of this.

Wednesday, June 9, 2010: (St. Ephrem)

Jesus said: “My people, public information about COMETS AND ASTEROIDS is SKETCHY at best.
This current comet (C/2009 R1-McNaught), that you are following, was seen coming at first in September, 2009.
Unless this information is public and available, very few would know about it.
I have mentioned before, that there WILL BE A BRIGHT COMET, that will be IN THE SKY ON THE DAY OF THE WARNING.
This trajectory will be SO CLOSE TO THE EARTH, that this information will be BLACKED OUT until many people will see it.
Any COMET THAT COMES FROM BEHIND THE SUN could be blocked from view for a time.
Certain comets may not get very bright UNTIL they are close to the sun.

This COMET OF THE WARNING will be significant, because it will RETURN to HIT THE EARTH as the COMET OF CHASTISEMENT.
It's gotta be Jesus, sounds just like him. Granted, he was talking about a different comet that fizzled out, but this one is the real deal!
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Hold onto your goodies, here comes the Death Star! But don't worry, the folks at Godlikeproductions are ALL over this, just like they are for NESARA.

Nibiru To Break Through Ecliptic March 4th 2011

A Discussion thread on the popular internet site godlikeproductions has received an extremely high volume of comments surrounding the mystery planet X Nibiru and its proposed nearing approach to the Earth, forecasting the "dark Star" to break through our ecliptic on March 15th 2011. Nibiru which is proposed by some to be the "death Star" or as Revelations refers to "Wormswood" a possible binary companion brown dwarf star to our sun that crosses our solar system every 3.600 years, causing massive geological and magnetic field disturbances.

The time line provided by the internet forum contributor has sparked concern and criticism alike over the last week.

Feb 20 Nibiru between Jupiter and Mars orbits. 2.48 AU from Earth.

March 4 Nibiru breaks through ecliptic plane for earth change symptoms to increase dramatically. 2.261 AU from Earth.

March 15 Saturn, Nibiru, Earth, Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus are in alignment creating gravity trench for volcano/earthquake/tidal events to escalate (first shaking of Hopi prophecy). First Conjunction. 2.1 AU from Earth.


June 27 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 1.789 AU from Earth.

Aug 3 Nibiru crosses Earth orbit and Earth reaches Nibiru perigee orbit angle position. 1.489 AU from Earth.

Aug 21 Nibiru crosses Venus orbit. 1.198 AU from Earth.

Sept 11 Nibiru reaches perigee position at Mercury orbit. 0.708 AU from Earth.

Sept 19 Nibiru equidistant from Sun And Earth. 0.523 AU from Earth.

Sept 26 Nibiru passes between Sun and Earth for second alignment (second shaking of Hopi prophecy) for anticipated Geological Pole Shift Event. Second Conjunction. 0.396 AU from Earth.

Oct 2 Nibiru at Venus orbit. 0.316 AU from Earth.

Oct 17 Nibiru at Earth orbit and nearest position. 0.232 AU from Earth @ 21.57 million miles.

Nov 14 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 0.46 AU from Earth.

Nov 22 Nibiru, Earth and Sun alignment for Pole Shift Reversal Event. Third conjunction 0.58 AU from Earth.

Nibiru will finally be farther from the Earth than the Sun on Feb 29, 2012 marking 163 days from Sept. 19, 2011 that Nibiru is nearer our planet than the Sun.

Nibiru, What NASA Knows & You Don't

A brown dwarf between Jupiter and Sun mass is approaching Earth from 5h 53m 27s -6 10' 58 coordinates at 100,000 miles per hour covering 2.4 million miles each day from the Orion Constellation just below Orion's lower-left belt location and expected to break through the ecliptic plane on March 4, 2011; when Nibiru Earth Change Symptoms are expected to become far worse. The brown dwarf with multiple moons is currently on an inbound trajectory towards Mercury orbit and located between Jupiter orbit and Mars orbit.

The brown dwarf (Nibiru) is the object being currently tracked by NASA as the Psyop Leonid ELEnin Comet that is expected to come into alignment with Sun and Earth at the first of three conjunctions on March 15, 2011; which is what all the false flag psyop disinformation is calling the pole shift. The Dwarf is still too far away (2.1 AU) to assume polarity control of the Earth from the Sun. This first conjunction/alignment is actually the first of three 'shakings' or cavitation events of Hopi Prophecy that includes no pole shift at all. The magnetic poles of our planet are not shifting, but are 'migrating' from the approach of the brown dwarf and the powerful magnetic field and polarity entering our inner solar system; which has been going on since 2004. The dynamic gravitational Tug-of-War between the Sun, Earth and Brown Dwarf is enhanced by the near-alignment of seven planetary/solar bodies at this first conjunction shown in the first diagram above and demonstrated by a red conjunction line depicting extreme gravitational force. The next major event for Nibiru is June 27, 2011, when the dwarf crosses the Mars orbit.

Diagram 2 starts at August 3, 2011 when Nibiru crosses Earth orbit to then cross Venus orbit on August 21, 2011. Then we see Nibiru/Elenin reach perigee position nearest the Sun on September 11, 2011 exactly ten years from the 9/11 attacks when the dwarf begins the 3600-year orbit once again. September 26, 2011 marks the day of the second conjunction when Nibiru is only 0.396 AU from Earth (36.8 million miles), when the dwarf is expected to gain polarity control over the Earth to cause the Geological Pole Shift. This is the second shaking of Hopi Prophecy when the Earth will bow to Nibiru's awesome magnetic field/polarity, so the northern hemisphere experiences days of darkness; while the southern hemisphere is drawn nearer the Sun. There are 14 days between the brown dwarf reaching perigee position and this conjunction with the Earth and Sun being equidistant to the dwarf on the 7th day (Sept. 18).

October 2 is the day that the brown dwarf crosses Venus' orbit again to begin trekking in the direction of Earth. Our planet is still being pulled towards the Sun, but by this time we are also being pulled forward into the massive gravity well. Two weeks go by (Oct. 17) and the brown dwarf crosses the Earth orbit line to pass directly in front of our planet at just 21.57 million miles away, which is the nearest point in our encounter. The brown dwarf crosses the Mars orbit line on November 14, 2011 on way to the third conjunction on November 22 where the Earth passes directly between the two once again like on March 15. This marks the time of the Geological Pole Shift Reversal, and third Hopi Prophecy 'shaking' that tips the Earth back to near the current position, as the Sun regains polarity control from Nibiru racing away from the inner solar system.
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The real authority on this one is Nancy Lieder, the self professed voice on earth of the Zetas, a race of benign greys from Zeta Reticula. Google her, she makes Dove sound like a Nobel Laureate.

DO NOT READ ANY ZETA TALK WITH LIQUIDS NEAR YOUR KEYBOARD!

Oh, and the original date was in May of 2003 or so....they're still waiting.
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I had just skimmed over all that before my first post, now that I've read it, it is I'm pretty sure every word copy-pasted from http://www.zetatalk.com circa 2002-03...they couldn't even make up new lies and were too lazy to cover up that they were recycling old ones.

Just to give you an idea, Nancy and the Zetas were given a lifetime ban from George Noory on Coast to Coast Live, which is quite an accomplishment for someone who doesn't say a damned thing all night that is true.
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Nancy Lieder's Bio

Nancy became aware of her contactee status in 1993, and the potential for being a communicator of the Zeta message, in the midst of a full life with a family and a full time job. As a contactee, Nancy participated in the hybrid program, and met one of her hybrid children. In preparation for her communicator role, Nancy was given life form introductions and introduced to MJ12 at an early age. Nancy expends her retirement time and money on getting the ZetaTalk message out. Requests for interviews take top priority. She quit a professional job in California in 1999 to move to Wisconsin to walk the talk. Born in Wisconsin, Nancy returned to her grandparent's homestead, where she first met the Zetas in the woods as a young girl. There, she gardens, saves seed, raises chickens, and tries to be an example of how people should prepare for the coming changes. As the ZetaTalk message is threatening to the establishment, who fear the populace will panic, Nancy deals with a lot of flack.

ZetaTalk began on January 19, 1995 in Michael Lindemann’s ISCNI chat group. By late 1996 the Zetas were debating with astronomers on the sci.astro Usenet. On October 24, 1997 ZetaTalk was featured on the Strange Universe TV program. A script written by Nancy in 1997 to depict the Passage is being considered for development into a movie, with a companion documentary on ZetaTalk. A ZetaTalk book was produced in 1998, and the basic message remains the same. Jeff Rense then featured Nancy several times on his Sightings radio show, 1998 through 2000, sometimes for 3 hours at a time, when the Zeta took live calls from the public. Nancy has twice been included in Wireless News Service notices, which brought her numerous requests for live radio interviews in 2000 and 2001, and this trend, to be invited onto morning talk shows, has continued to the present. Nancy was featured in the April 2001 edition of Art Bell's After Dark magazine, re pole shifts, and appeared on the Coast to Coast radio show in 2003, 2005, and 2007. Nancy ran weekly live chats from late 2001 into 2003, and in 2006 started live chats again on the GodlikeProduction message board where the Zetas address current topics. A Newsletter was started in late 2006. The BBS Radio show featured Nancy as their premier show in August, 2005 where Nancy had a weekly spot until 2007 called The Connection. A CD compilation of these lectures is available to the public. OutThereTV has featured Nancy several times between 2002 and 2007. Since 2007 Nancy has had a regular Firday afternoon radio show on The Micro Effect. As of 2007, Nancy is also featured on The Zeta Report, which are video clips on the Internet.

The inbound Planet X was sighted at the coordinates given by the Zetas in early 2001, imaged in infrared twice in January, 2002, tracked by CCD images in late 2002 to early 2003, and thereafter photographed by amateur astronomers around the world. That a middle aged woman with a high school degree, who does not even know which end of a telescope to look into, could pinpoint the RA and Dec of the brown dwarf, Planet X, is astonishing, and speaks to the validity of ZetaTalk. Due to the international interest in ZetaTalk, Nancy assists with providing translations into almost two dozen different languages available to the public. Due to the serious nature of the ZetaTalk message, the Troubled Times group was formed in 1996 to seek survival solution sets for the common man. Nancy functions as the web mistress of the huge Troubled Times site. A nonprofit, Troubled Times Inc, was incorporated in 1997. Nancy supports the nonprofit in an administrative capacity, has grown and gathering seed for the seed team she started in 1998, maintained a hydroponics and verimculture lab started in 2000, and assisted in the layout of the booklet offered by the nonprofit to the public in 2001.
The sightings of inbound PlanetX in 2001 were between Mars and Jupiter. So, we've had 10 years of "any day now, a NESARA like record of stupid things that are gonna happen any day now for over a decade...I mean, I thought things in space moved pretty fast but I could have driven a 48 Buick to Jupiter in 10 years.
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Gregg wrote:The sightings of inbound PlanetX in 2001 were between Mars and Jupiter. So, we've had 10 years of "any day now, a NESARA like record of stupid things that are gonna happen any day now for over a decade...I mean, I thought things in space moved pretty fast but I could have driven a 48 Buick to Jupiter in 10 years.
This just shows how ignorant you are of how space stuff works. Of course things move at warp speed, and warp speed is pretty durn fast, but you've got your stops to gas up, use the bathroom, get food, and such. And then there's weigh stations and all if you think interstate truckers have a lot of paperwork to fill out, you should see the pile of documents necessary to break through the ecliptic plane!

As for driving a 48 Buick to Jupiter, don't be silly. This obviously wouldn't work because 48 Buicks don't have fins. Now, if you had a '57 Cadillac, a full tank of gas, and a clean windshield you could make Jupiter by galactic sundown.
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But, but, but, there's so much useful information on the Zeta Talk site. For example, safe location information. Since the first shaking is to be today it's good to know where you have to flee to be safe from a world-wide catastrophe!

Deep Knight is very familiar with one of the places discussed, Boulder Colorado, Babylon of the Rockies. Here's what Nancy, um, er, The Zetas have to say.

Boulder, CO has no prayer of being out of the grip of the arrogant politicians who see themselves as the leaders of the world in the Aftertime. Even a casual glance at a map of the area shows a superhighway directly from Denver to Boulder. Military installation are nearby - Fort Collins, Fort Lupton, and Fort Morgan. The arm of the US government intent upon self perpetuation will not sit by idly until the pole shift has destroyed roads before securing the area. The area to be secured is not, of course, merely the Denver airport and any tunnels to other locations from that airport. They will pack the area with military personnel and equipment. This equipment includes rugged vehicles designed to go overland, and they will certainly seek out and commandeer any functioning farms nearby. Boulder is in the heavy traffic lane between Fort Collins and Denver, and as long as fuel for choppers holds out is likely to have overflights there that would assist in the seek and commandeer campaign. We have warned that those who do not want to be virtual slaves of the self-appointed overloads of the Aftertime not be near such locations.

ZetaTalk September, 2010
Fort Collins, Fort Morgan and Fort Lupton are not military installations. Fort Collins and Fort Morgan are named after an old US Military forts, but by 1867 both were decommissioned. Fort Lupton was strictly a private trading fort, closed in 1844. While there is a superhighway (US 36) going from Denver to Boulder, it ends being "super" there and is not the "heavy traffic lane between Fort Collins and Denver" (that's I-25, which doesn't even come close to Boulder or Boulder County). There is a "back way" to Ft. Collins, but it's certainly not the fastest route. I'm surprised that the Zeta's don't have the wherewithall to at least do a quick Google search before giving out this information, but I suppose they're busy, what with the imminent destruction of earth and all.
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Nancy (the Zetas) think Ft Worth is a military base, she's made that mistake many times, and it just shows that she's looking at a map and sees anything "Fort" assuming it a military base. I want to send her an ad for "Camp Washington Chili" in Cincinnati and see what she makes of a military base that has 3 ways on the menu.

For those of you who have never been to Cincinnati, a local dish is three way chili, which is Chili, Spaghetti, and Cheese. If you add Beans it's a 4 way, onion a 5 way and a hot blond dressed like a cheerleader makes a helluva mess well worth the cleaning up required, including the environmental impact statement and other paperwork
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Gregg wrote: The sightings of inbound PlanetX in 2001 were between Mars and Jupiter. So, we've had 10 years of "any day now, a NESARA like record of stupid things that are gonna happen any day now for over a decade...I mean, I thought things in space moved pretty fast but I could have driven a 48 Buick to Jupiter in 10 years.
I hear and read Zecharia Sitchin fans posting warnings all the time about Planet X, Nibiru, a dwarf brown star and the Nephilim coming back to get us on a weekly basis. Yet, astronomers assure us nothing is out there, there are no perturbations in the planetary orbits that would warn us, nothing visible to our telescopes. Their answer? All of the astronomers have been sent to Antarctica so they won't blab the truth! :thinking: :mrgreen:
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A friend from Cincinnati and I send each other gag food gifts for Xmas. It all started with a bottle of Elvis "Hunka hunka burning love" hot sauce. Over the years I've gotten a can of Skyline Cincinnati chili (packed with fat calories and I believe coco and cinnamon) and this ice cream from someplace else in Ohio called "Queen City Chocolate" that had a lot of hot chili spice added to it (it was OK for me, but would be too hot for most). The "Queen City" being Cincinnati (which my friend calls "Sin City" with a tremendous amount of irony in his voice). The ice cream showed up shipped overnight in dry ice.

Strangely enough, Denver's official nickname used to be "Queen City of the Plains," even though "Mile High City" was commonly used. About 15 years ago they made both "official." Either way, Nancy and the Zetas don't like it's chances once Nibaru hits.

Denver is a popular city, an airport hub, a spot for winter sports, and providing scenery and clean mountain air and water to those situating a vacation home there. Thus, it does not lack for interest, and is already a spot where the rich and powerful will flock when the cataclysms approach. They will consider Denver, and Colorado, their safe place to camp, but being in the main the type of individual to expect service and attendance, they will not be the best neighbors in the Aftertime. Colorado, and especially Denver, will be a study in sociological tides during the days preceding the pole shift and the months following. Vicious pecking order battles will ensue among those already assuming they are in control, followed by vicious battles among those wanting to effect a takeover when it is clear that government has collapsed and there will be no repercussions. This will ebb and flow, flaring up and then smoldering under the surface, until these groups have either killed each other off or died from lack of attention to the important aspects of life in the Aftertime. Serious settlements of good hearted folk would be advised to stay well away from this city and its surrounding enclaves, putting physical barriers between themselves and these battles.
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As we have mentioned, the Denver area will be inundated by troops and equipment well ahead of the pole shift, and it is already known that this 'Western White House" is intended to be the seat of power for the US government should DC need to be evacuated. Certainly, being lowland, Washington DC will become uninhabitable by the time the last weeks approach. The European tsunami will not just assault Europe with huge waves. There will be high tides along the East Coast too, and those areas that are virtually at sea level will get their first taste of what is to come. Between the politician and the generals, life in the Denver area will change drastically. The ability to commandeer private and public facilities in an emergency has always been a government right. The airport will be dedicated to bringing the seat of power to Denver. Hotels will be taken over, all reservations canceled. Martial law will be in place, at least in this arena, whether officially or unoffically. Any citizens in the greater Denver area resisting this reality will be interned or mistreated until they cooperate.
The earth being destroyed is bad enough, but are they saying that reservations at hotels will be cancelled also? Noooooo!!!!!
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Gregg wrote:The real authority on this one is Nancy Lieder, the self professed voice on earth of the Zetas, a race of benign greys from Zeta Reticula. Google her, she makes Dove sound like a Nobel Laureate.

DO NOT READ ANY ZETA TALK WITH LIQUIDS NEAR YOUR KEYBOARD!

Oh, and the original date was in May of 2003 or so....they're still waiting.
May 15, 2003 to be exact. I remember it well because there was a gorgeous total lunar eclipse that night. I had the pleasure of rousting out a bunch of people at work (I work in a recording studio; that means weird hours) and leading them down the street to watch the eclipse.

So, even though Nibiru was a no-show there was some decent astronomical entertainment.
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ktesibios wrote:
Gregg wrote:The real authority on this one is Nancy Lieder, the self professed voice on earth of the Zetas, a race of benign greys from Zeta Reticula. Google her, she makes Dove sound like a Nobel Laureate.

DO NOT READ ANY ZETA TALK WITH LIQUIDS NEAR YOUR KEYBOARD!

Oh, and the original date was in May of 2003 or so....they're still waiting.
May 15, 2003 to be exact. I remember it well because there was a gorgeous total lunar eclipse that night. I had the pleasure of rousting out a bunch of people at work (I work in a recording studio; that means weird hours) and leading them down the street to watch the eclipse.

So, even though Nibiru was a no-show there was some decent astronomical entertainment.
I was driving from Louisville to Cincinnati that night, listening to Coast to Coast AM (you have no idea how glad I am that the Zetas let us have satellite radio now)
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Deep Knight wrote:A friend from Cincinnati and I send each other gag food gifts for Xmas. It all started with a bottle of Elvis "Hunka hunka burning love" hot sauce. Over the years I've gotten a can of Skyline Cincinnati chili (packed with fat calories and I believe coco and cinnamon) and this ice cream from someplace else in Ohio called "Queen City Chocolate" that had a lot of hot chili spice added to it (it was OK for me, but would be too hot for most). The "Queen City" being Cincinnati (which my friend calls "Sin City" with a tremendous amount of irony in his voice). The ice cream showed up shipped overnight in dry ice.

Strangely enough, Denver's official nickname used to be "Queen City of the Plains," even though "Mile High City" was commonly used. About 15 years ago they made both "official." Either way, Nancy and the Zetas don't like it's chances once Nibaru hits.

I've never had the Ice Cream, but Skyline is the best Cincinnati chili, bar none. It does have both cinnamon and cocoa in it, but it's greek chili, some people tell me it's vaguely like Indian food but I've never had Indian food either, so I don't know. Cincinnati is definitely not 'sin city' that's another local joke. We have a county sheriff who was before that a judge and before that the Ohio version of a District Attorney who has a real problem with porn. There are no adult bookstores in Cincinnati (Larry Flynt is a home boy and has a psuedo sex toy shop downtown, but it's not much more than a flea market booth that he keeps open to get in Simon Lies' head) The People vs Larry Flynt is about the ongoing battle between them. Hotels in Cincinnati don't have adult movie pay per view, and you can't get it on cable in the city either I think. All in all I think it makes Cincinnati a nice city, if a little boring and Si Lies is a very good and decent man, he just has a problem with skin. Now, across the river in Kentucky, they make up for everything you can't get in Cincinnati. Not as wide open as it was in the day, but you can still get about anything you want in Newport which was once controlled by guys working for Meyer Lansky.
Cincinnati is also home to the largest Oktoberfest outside of Munich and the world's largest chicken dance and wienerdog racing.

Okay, enough on the travel guide, if you're coming, let me know and I'll hook you up with were to stay and I gots people in Newport if you're into that sort of thing.
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Gregg wrote:I've never had the Ice Cream, but Skyline is the best Cincinnati chili, bar none. It does have both cinnamon and cocoa in it, but it's greek chili, some people tell me it's vaguely like Indian food but I've never had Indian food either, so I don't know.
In southern Mexico it's common to mate chilies and chocolate (mole sauce), and of course chocolate and cinnamon (Mexican cocoa), but chili con carne is never like they make it in Norte America (with tomatoes and beans), so it's a mystery to me too. A few years back I saw Cincinnati chili on spaghetti on the menu at a restaurant near Sheridan Wyoming, which I believe is listed as one of the signs of the coming apocalypse in Revelations.
Gregg wrote:Cincinnati is definitely not 'sin city' that's another local joke.


I don't know, I've heard stories about "Babylon on the Ohio." There's this one about identical twin sisters with a taste for the bondage, Procter and Gamble, and flying pig statues on a bridge, but I don't remember how it goes.
Gregg wrote:Hotels in Cincinnati don't have adult movie pay per view, and you can't get it on cable in the city either I think.
The earth being destroyed is bad enough, but are you saying that if they cancel my reservations at a Denver hotel and have to move to Cincinnati I can't watch porn? Noooooo!!!!!
Gregg wrote:Cincinnati is also home to the largest Oktoberfest outside of Munich and the world's largest chicken dance and wienerdog racing.
Chickens dancing and wienerdogs racing are yet another sign of the apocalypse! Hold onto your hats, March 15 is coming up fast!!!!
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Funny how the pole-shifts of NESARA don't effect a compass!
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David Merrill wrote:Funny how the pole-shifts of NESARA don't effect a compass!
Sort of like damn near everything you do, eh?
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I heard an interview w/Joseph Felser author of The Myth of the Great Ending:
Why We've Been Longing for the End of Days Since the Beginning of Time.


I haven't read the book, but he suggested that there is a

1. "Nyah, Nyah, I told you so mentality" at work. Those who believe in apocalyptic visions preached by their religions want to be proven right.
2. Peoples' exaggerated sense of self importance doesn't allow for a worldview without them in it----they'd rather just fold up the tents and send everyone home.
3. People are just tired of life's daily struggles and this would be an ending that absolves everyone.

There were more, of course, and many you'll have the read the book to know. Still, I thought it was interesting that someone would do a psychological study on these attitudes (such as why someone secretly roots for the end of time, even tries to hasten it) and take it out of the field of nasty religious/belief system discourse and examine it in terms of why we believe what we believe and the impact this has on societies and individuals.
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Green Lantern wrote:I heard an interview w/Joseph Felser author of The Myth of the Great Ending:
Why We've Been Longing for the End of Days Since the Beginning of Time.


I haven't read the book, but he suggested that there is a

1. "Nyah, Nyah, I told you so mentality" at work. Those who believe in apocalyptic visions preached by their religions want to be proven right.

Common in conspiracy circles and NESARA, I remember at least two of the "when is it gonna finally happen?" questions to Bellringer's "Hello Central" being coached in "Everyone I know thinks I'm crazy, so when is this gonna happen so I can prove them wrong and laugh in their face" language.

Green Lantern wrote:2. Peoples' exaggerated sense of self importance doesn't allow for a worldview without them in it----they'd rather just fold up the tents and send everyone home.
NESARA-believers on one forum are all "Commanders," "Lords" and "Ladies," which might show just a bit of an exaggerated sense of self importance.
Green Lantern wrote:3. People are just tired of life's daily struggles and this would be an ending that absolves everyone.

There were more, of course, and many you'll have the read the book to know. Still, I thought it was interesting that someone would do a psychological study on these attitudes (such as why someone secretly roots for the end of time, even tries to hasten it) and take it out of the field of nasty religious/belief system discourse and examine in terms of why we believe what we believe and the impact this has on socities and individuals.
There have been many who have tried to hasten the end of time. My favorite sick story involves Jeffrey Lundgren who believed he would have to kill some people to get it started. At first he was going to kill some non-believers, but found it simpler to kill a family of his followers. Later, while in "the wilderness" with the faithful awaiting the end of the world, he received a message from God that first he needed to join with his spirit-wife, who he would know by an image of her genitalia imprinted in his brain, so all he had to do was go looking... Needless to say, his wife objected to this search and with winter coming and the money running out, the cult fell apart. It's said he went to his execution in 2006 still thinking he was a prophet of God.
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I should probably mention that Felser also contends there was an exact point in our history (about 500 BCE) when we stopped seeing time as cyclical and began seeing it as "linear" (i.e. racing toward some definite point in the future). This happened in both the East and the West. A railroad metaphor might fit----we can only travel along the lines defined by the rails. I reckon, too, that since any individual's life is "apocalyptic" in the sense that our physical presence on this planet will end, it might be that we look to philosophical and scientific theories that reflect that fear of our own mortality.