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by webhick
Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:37 am
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

Leave it up to a Virgin Island Gunsmith...
by webhick
Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:22 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

The other nagging issue I have with the claim that Joel ran NASI for 5 year as a legitimate business is exactly that: 5 years. Five years was the magic number where the original investment would have to be paid back. It is coincidental, but I can't help but wonder if the $11 million investment that...
by webhick
Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:01 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

That being said, I think the strongest arguments made were the ones regarding Joel's health and age.Those are real factors and will have to be considered by the court before deciding to send Gillis away for effectively a life sentence. I don't buy the argument Joel will have "...a difficult ex...
by webhick
Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:30 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

Ms. Winn opined that “[Mr. Gillis’s] motivation was not greed or personal financial gain, but rather he wanted to be the person who makes people money and could be the good guy/hero.” And since being a good guy/hero requires honesty and integrity, Joel said "fuck that noise" and became th...
by webhick
Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:24 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

Does anyone know that Joel's wife does/used to do for work? I'm not going after her or anything (since we've seen no sign that she was in on it), but I'm curious as to how much her income could have supplemented what Joel was bringing in.
by webhick
Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:38 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

About 3 or 4 years into the scheme. With a $300K annual "salary" Joel probably had no problems with putting down a considerable down payment to get into the house. The loan documents are probably long gone, but it would have been interesting to see how Joel documented his income for the l...
by webhick
Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:33 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

DO NOT HARASS HIM. I think that is only waving a red flag. I am not sure the address should have been published here. The address is public knowledge. I'm honestly telling people not to harass him. There's no point in it. If you give him a heart attack at home before he serves a day in prison then ...
by webhick
Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:19 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

Oh, and there's a repeated sentiment in the filing that Joel had one error in judgment. ONE. Because I guess 13 years of lying to people's faces, robbing Peter to pay Paul and siphoning money to other companies doesn't count. Joel is bizarre.
by webhick
Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:00 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

Joel filed a rebuttal to the pre-sentencing report. It was on 9/18. I've been working on a post about it, but it's like 250 pages, so it's taking a while to get my ducks in a row. The bulk of it are exhibits, like pictures of Joel's house, chopped up trial balances (pages missing) and a rather compl...
by webhick
Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:52 am
Forum: US
Topic: Ed and Elaine Brown Property Sold at Auction
Replies: 45
Views: 2207

Re: Ed and Elaine Brown Property Sold at Auction

They likely knew that, which is why it was probably built without a single permit from top to bottom and is likely deficient in a hundred respects. Unlikely Ed paid a structural engineer a dime since Ed knows everything. IIRC, Elaine's son is an architect and drew up plans which Ed then modified. E...
by webhick
Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:10 am
Forum: US
Topic: The Patriot Threat
Replies: 31
Views: 2166

Re: The Patriot Threat

It's number 10 in a book series, FYI. I'm on the fence as to whether I should start at book 1 and work my way up or just jump in at 10 and go back if I get committed to the characters.
by webhick
Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:57 am
Forum: MLM Scams Forum (as if any of them aren't)
Topic: Vemma False Ad Class Action Moved to AZ Federal Court
Replies: 5
Views: 4334

Re: Vemma False Ad Class Action Moved to AZ Federal Court

Here's where the fact check comes in. Do those numbers mean what I think they mean? That in 2014 Vemma had 51,369 US based Reps and, by their own count, 136 US based customers? I've had a long day and am not cognitating at full efficiency but no matter how I try to look at that data I can't see it ...
by webhick
Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:57 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

EXCELLENT! See, you naysayers? There was something in that clawback business after all! So, lemme see.... 800,000 divided by 3000 investors.... hmmm... :thinking: I had this in my post and then edited it out somewhere along the way. The various filings from Joel's camp seem to indicate that 1,300 l...
by webhick
Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:28 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

A new status report was filed while I was on vacation. I'm not doing it tonight, but it will be up this week. ETA: I'm skimming the document and holy crap. Few things, by no means complete: They only got $500 for the office crap. They had previously said it was worth less than $10k. While not techni...
by webhick
Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:24 pm
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

I'm providing more of a narrative on this because my brain is a little fried. Documents have been uploaded to the blog's library , but I'm not publishing anything today. I'm tired my eyes are going wonky. It looks like Joel's lawyer is trying to get sentencing pushed to mid-December, citing a need t...
by webhick
Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:55 am
Forum: US
Topic: Schiff v. Chandler
Replies: 22
Views: 2288

Re: Schiff v. Chandler

Demosthenes wrote:Starts on page 2031.


For those playing the home game: 2031 is actually 165, since the PDF is only 322 pages. You can either "goto" page 165 or do a find for 2031.
by webhick
Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:59 pm
Forum: About Quatloos and Site Comments
Topic: Registration/Activation/Password Problems
Replies: 18
Views: 25859

Re: Registration/Activation/Password Problems

AndyK wrote:
wserra wrote:
letissier14 wrote:How do I change my password


Click your login, to the right of "private messages". Then User Control Panel / Profile / Edit Account Settings.


Now why wasn't he required to make the prescribed sacrifices?


I already have too many first-born children.
by webhick
Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:52 am
Forum: THE DILIGIZER BOARD -- Securities Fraud -- Due Diligence in Finance
Topic: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?
Replies: 2417
Views: 378432

Re: ATM LEASEBACK SCHEMES-- any insight?

Minor update: Joel's lawyer withdrew on 7/28. Also, victims keep sending letters to the judge, which he keeps forwarding to all the lawyers and the probation officer. And stupid me keeps downloading those documents from PACER because I keep seeing docket entries for in-chamber minutes (or some such ...
by webhick
Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:32 pm
Forum: US
Topic: Amir Lord Noble Ben Bey - Moorish Diplomat
Replies: 16
Views: 1369

Re: Amir Lord Noble Ben Bey - Moorish Diplomat

notorial dissent wrote:If this is slow, then it adds a whole new dimension to the word..


If he was any slower, he'd go back in time.
by webhick
Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:33 pm
Forum: Gambling and Quatloosia Good Life
Topic: East Texas: Marriage or jail time
Replies: 6
Views: 1353

East Texas: Marriage or jail time

It's amusing to see judges rule this way on TV, not at all in real life: Judge Rogers asked Bundy if he was married to Jaynes and then said, “You know, as a part of my probation, you’re going to have to marry her…within 30 days.” If Bundy declined to do the probation, he would be sentenced to 15 day...

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