Mortgage elimination scammers redux

Discussion of various forms of Advance Fee Fraud, including application fees for loans that never materialize, self-liquidating loan scams, as well as mortgage elimination scams and related debt elimination scams [Nigerian-type scams should go in the Nigerian 4-1-9 forum]
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Mortgage elimination scammers redux

Postby Judge Roy Bean » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:03 pm

Byron Gashler (Mogel) has signed up under yet another mortgage elimination scam MLM, with the same old mysterious BS about how banks don't lend money and how you can, if you follow all the steps just exactly right, eliminate your debt.

Of course, instead of just trying to get a few hundred dollars out of the suckers, this new(?) scam site wants idiots to put up $2,995 for one property or $4,995 for a multiple property "plus" real estate coaching package.

But wait - if you recruit four others - your package is free!!!!!

And these geniuses have a great disclaimer:
Many who start these programs do not follow through and complete the process, by their own choosing. Persistence and follow through has [sic] shown to be effective. Any claims or legal matters are hereby accepted for value with conditions.


(Emphasis added.)

And the author includes these brilliant terms and conditions in his coaching agreement:

All right to claims against THERON JAY MARRS, Theron-Jay: Marrs – secured party, ASSET SOLUTIONS, LLC or it’s employees or affiliates are waived and these parties are to be held harmless from any consequences as a result of using these processes yourself.


Marrs must have given up on the "pay it off fast with another line of credit" software package and $47 monthly payment system he was promoting a couple of years ago (yet another MLM) and gone full-blown into the elimination scam version.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Mortgage elimination scammers redux

Postby notorial dissent » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:10 pm

I wonder if Byron gave him some of his old Dorean Group stuff. Sounds an awful lot like what they were charging back then, except I thought they were doing the second property for half price or some such. After all, Kurt had to have stolen it from somewhere, he certainly wasn't smart enough to have come up with it on his own, so it is somehow symmetry that Byron do the same.
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Re: Mortgage elimination scammers redux

Postby Dr. Caligari » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:21 am

Speaking of Kurt, has his appeal been heard yet?
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Re: Mortgage elimination scammers redux

Postby Judge Roy Bean » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:50 am

notorial dissent wrote:I wonder if Byron gave him some of his old Dorean Group stuff. Sounds an awful lot like what they were charging back then, except I thought they were doing the second property for half price or some such. After all, Kurt had to have stolen it from somewhere, he certainly wasn't smart enough to have come up with it on his own, so it is somehow symmetry that Byron do the same.


Don't think this is a Byron Gashler product. It doesn't look much like the Dorean process and most of what Johnson concocted was an assemblage of other existing things, not the gift from Jesus he likes to claim.
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