"Heldharmless"
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:37 pm
In a thread a poster named stopthemadness began in the Nigerian forum, s/he recommends consulting a site called heldharmless.com to protext oneself from 419s. That seemed a little strange to me, since all one need do is laugh and ignore it to be completely protected. I thought I'd check these guys out.
They claim that they can "prevent and shield against insurance claims, lawsuits or any other similar action BEFORE they are filed; not after". Now, that's pretty remarkable. You mean that, so long as I sign up with you, I can tool down the road drunk, ramming people at will, and never get sued? I thought only the Goldcoast Singers could do that. How in the world can you accomplish that?
Surprise, surprise - they don't tell you. On their "How HH Works" page, they describe it as "a lawful combination of multiple legal documents, devices, practices and strategies bundled into one fully comprehensive product . . . if you bundle these devices and strategies together, such as in a HELD HARMLESS Membership, they then work collectively and simultaneously and form a complete and lawful shield". Can you give us a hint of what this legal miracle looks like? Well, no. Can you give us an example of it having worked? Well, no.
You can read the rest of the page yourselves. It's gibberish.
Where are these people? 244 Fifth Ave., Suite A-250, Manhattan. Ooh, nice address. Until you find out that it's a mail drop. I actually called the folks who run the drop, and they confirmed that they will give you a "Suite" address; unfortunately, the "suite" measures about 6"x8"x4". It's a mail box. Or an office for very small scammers.
And the domain heldharmless.com was registered by a firm on Bond Street in London. Another mail drop? But apparently they can protect you from suit in Great Britain, as well as the U.S. Only $100/month. But wait a second - if one single document does it, why do you need to pay them every month? Oh, yeah, you probably need "updates". Like an antivirus.
What a crock.
They claim that they can "prevent and shield against insurance claims, lawsuits or any other similar action BEFORE they are filed; not after". Now, that's pretty remarkable. You mean that, so long as I sign up with you, I can tool down the road drunk, ramming people at will, and never get sued? I thought only the Goldcoast Singers could do that. How in the world can you accomplish that?
Surprise, surprise - they don't tell you. On their "How HH Works" page, they describe it as "a lawful combination of multiple legal documents, devices, practices and strategies bundled into one fully comprehensive product . . . if you bundle these devices and strategies together, such as in a HELD HARMLESS Membership, they then work collectively and simultaneously and form a complete and lawful shield". Can you give us a hint of what this legal miracle looks like? Well, no. Can you give us an example of it having worked? Well, no.
You can read the rest of the page yourselves. It's gibberish.
Where are these people? 244 Fifth Ave., Suite A-250, Manhattan. Ooh, nice address. Until you find out that it's a mail drop. I actually called the folks who run the drop, and they confirmed that they will give you a "Suite" address; unfortunately, the "suite" measures about 6"x8"x4". It's a mail box. Or an office for very small scammers.
And the domain heldharmless.com was registered by a firm on Bond Street in London. Another mail drop? But apparently they can protect you from suit in Great Britain, as well as the U.S. Only $100/month. But wait a second - if one single document does it, why do you need to pay them every month? Oh, yeah, you probably need "updates". Like an antivirus.
What a crock.