Ed and Elaine Brown arrested (Continued even more)

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Ed and Elaine Brown arrested (Continued even more)

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Oops.
October 7, 2007 - Sunday

6:36 PM - Renos Blogs, anyone have any spare copies??

Some of you may have notice a few weeks ago that Renos blogs were erased, we had done this for the protection of his supporters, some of you were scared that your comments that were made could be used in the wrong hands after Renos arrest and many of you requested we remove any responses left. Well we tried to go in and do it comment by comment, but his blogs were so popular that it was so much work for the two of us ( Jose and I), so instead we ended up deleting all the blogs to spare time, well we thought Reno had copied most of them somewhere, which he did a few of them but not all of them, so we need your help. If any of you have copied and pasted any of his past blogs somewhere, we are asking you please send us copies of them, we dont want the responses from supporters or comments, we just want Renos words written by him so we can help him out if the feds are going to try to use myspace to do harm to his case, we want to use his myspace blogs to help his case. so let me know if you guys have anything we can use in his defense in this case.
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There's just nothing like on ongoing obstruction of justice. Particularly one where the participants advertise their participation. Pass the popcorn.
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Too little too late. Something tells me the prosecutors have all they need.
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All they need to do is submit a discovery motion and DoJ will turn over all the blogs.
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You mean to tell me that all the illegal activity I am broadcasting on my MySpace page can be used against me?

Seriously, like many of my friends, I have to be very careful about what I post since students, employers, etc... can and have found me.

Now if you excuse me I will have to edit my Wikipedia and Conservapedia page (The Greatest Creature in the Universe) to remove the advocation of the importation of endangered animal dropping.
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BTW: Does Wayback do blogs?
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'Club Fed' for Elaine Brown; Ed Brown still waiting for 'Con Air'
By PAT GROSSMITH
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff
1 hour, 15 minutes ago

MANCHESTER – Tax evader Elaine Brown is serving her 63-month sentence in the Federal Correctional Institute in Danbury, Conn., a minimum prison facility for women, according to Steve Monier, U.S. Marshal for New Hampshire.

Edward Brown, however, remains in "transit," that is he has yet to be picked up by the Justice Prisoner Alien Transport (JPAT), nicknamed "Con Air."

Monier would not divulge where Brown, 65, is currently being held or say where the retired exterminator will be serving his 63-month sentence.

Elaine Brown, 67, a dentist, is in a facility commonly referred to as "Club Fed," because of its less severe treatment of prisoners convicted of white collar and/or non-violent crimes.

It could be a week or more, depending on JPAT's schedule, before Brown is finally in a federal prison cell, according to Monier.

In the meantime, federal investigators remain at the couple's 110-acre property in Plainfield, sifting through evidence at what is now a crime scene.

The Browns, convicted on Jan. 18 of not paying federal taxes on $1.9 million of income, were each sentenced to serve 63 months in federal prison.

Defying the federal government for months, they holed up in their concrete-fortified home, with its four-story watch tower providing a 360-degree view of surrounding properties.

It mattered little when the government cut telephone service and power to their home. The Browns had planned an "off the grid" existence, had stockpiled food and water, and had solar panels and a windmill to provide power.

And, they apparently planned to fight; guns, ammunition and homemade bombs were found inside the home. Booby-traps were set along the perimeter of their property, Monier said at a press conference last week.

The anti-tax Browns also encouraged like-minded individuals to come to their home and they did over the months.

On Sept. 12, four people were arrested on charges they abetted the fugitive Browns.

It was the Browns' open-door policy, however, that led to their capture.

Last Thursday, a small team of deputy U.S. marshals pretended they were Brown supporters. When they arrived at the Plainfield home, the couple came out to greet them and the deputies promptly arrested them on their front porch.

"They invited us in and we escorted them out," Monier said in announcing their arrests last week.
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Edward Brown, however, remains in "transit," that is he has yet to be picked up by the Justice Prisoner Alien Transport (JPAT), nicknamed "Con Air."
Sounds like Ed's getting some "Deisel Therapy."
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Webhick:

PLEASE, stop sharing the funny pills with CaptainKickback :!:
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Ed is probably cooling his heels in a local jail. My bet would be Valley Street jail in Manchester or the NH State Prison. The State Prison Secure Housing Unit (SHU) would be a good place to park him until con-air picks hims up. A maximum security unit with 23 hours per day lock down in a private cell.

Lots of private time to think about how he got where he is.

The .gov has no interest in driving Ed around the country (diesel therapy :roll:). Too expensive, too much effort, too stupid. Just park him in a cell and wait.
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ErsatzAnatchist wrote:
Ed is probably cooling his heels in a local jail. My bet would be Valley Street jail in Manchester or the NH State Prison. The State Prison Secure Housing Unit (SHU) would be a good place to park him until con-air picks hims up. A maximum security unit with 23 hours per day lock down in a private cell.

Lots of private time to think about how he got where he is.
As opposed to all the private time Eddie-poo already had (during all those months spewing his delusional hatred from the confines of his bucolic, explosive-laden, tax protester-infested, "wholly- or partially-government owned by reason of forfeiture" residential compound) to think about how he was going to end up in the place he now so ignominiously finds himself or, to think back even earlier, as opposed to all the private time the Edster had for all those prior years, before he even began shovelling himself into this mess and self-destructively allowing the higher cognitive functions of his brain to slip so tragically into desuetude.
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I really do know how to spell "Diesel," honest. :oops:
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CaptainKickback wrote:
Truthstalker wrote:
Edward Brown, however, remains in "transit," that is he has yet to be picked up by the Justice Prisoner Alien Transport (JPAT), nicknamed "Con Air."
Sounds like Ed's getting some "Deisel Therapy."
Isn't that where Vin Diesel "acts" out scenes from Shakespeare in fornt of the condemned, with the admonition that if they end up in jail again, Vin will perform Oh Calcutta for them?
Vin Diesel is too narcissistic to go bottomless without a designated makeup crew.
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From the Concord Monitor,
Oct. 6, 2007

I didn't see this posted, so I apologize if it's already been seen here:
No sympathy for a captive couple
Threats of violence tarnished the Browns

by Ray Duckler
Monitor staff

We all admire a good fictional antihero, the criminal who questions authority with charisma and humor and an indomitable spirit we wish we had.

They ignite something within us, sympathy for their cause and admiration for their courage to cross the line.

Robin Hood.

Cool Hand Luke.

R.P. McMurphy from One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

The con artists from The Sting.
But in the real-life case of Ed and Elaine Brown, the Plainfield tax protesters arrested Thursday by U.S. marshals after a long standoff, this kind of sympathy is impossible to muster.

Too much potential violence. Too many guns and explosives. Too many threats, most notably against a federal judge.

The Browns were convicted of several tax-related crimes last January and were sentenced to 63 months in prison. A jury found that they conspired to hide $1.9 million earned by Elaine Brown, a dentist, between 1996 and 2003.

After their conviction, the Browns chose to hide out in their solar-powered concrete home. They felt justified in their action, claiming that no law forced them to pay federal income taxes. They said the 1913 constitutional amendment permitting the law was never properly ratified.

Theirs was a stand against what they perceived as an unjust court system that was hiding the truth about the tax system from most Americans.

But there was no civil disobedience here, no sense of consequences during their struggle, no willingness to serve prison time to draw attention to what they felt was right. This was not a Gandhi-like campaign. That might have created more mainstream sympathy for them.

Instead, this turned ugly, with violence and doom on the horizon. Early on, Ed Brown said this could turn into another Waco if authorities pushed things too far.

In a sense, war was declared by the Browns. Their friends and supporters brought high-powered rifles to their fortress. The Browns vowed never to be taken alive, saying they'd leave their home only as free people or in body bags.

And then there was the harsh rhetoric directed toward Judge Steven McAuliffe, who presided over the Browns' tax evasion trial.

The Browns and their supporters have said that McAuliffe is the criminal. McAuliffe took himself off the cases of two men charged with helping the Browns. He said threats made against him could lead some to question his impartiality. U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier would not confirm yesterday whether McAuliffe received heightened security.

But that would be a reasonable assumption. Here's why:

"This is a warning," Ed Brown said in a February radio broadcast. "Once this thing starts, we're going to seek them out and hunt them down. And we're going to bring them to justice. So anybody who wishes to join them, you go right ahead and join them. But I promise you, long after I'm gone, they're going to seek out every one of you and your bloodline."

In a video posted later that month, Brown cited McAuliffe again. "I wouldn't want to be this judge or these other people. . . . Their names are already out there," Brown said. "They are just as vulnerable as I am. And if they're so foolish and stupid to think that they're not, hey, doom on them."

It ended Thursday, peacefully. U.S. marshals, posing as supporters, gained easy access to the home and arrested the couple, with none of the violence many feared would occur.

Still, officials found booby traps in the woods on the 100-plus acre property. They found weapons and ammunition and homemade bombs inside and outside the house. They found what they thought they would: firepower designed to kill authorities trying to arrest them. They found the hatred we've heard for months.

"In this case, it went exactly right," Monier said yesterday. "Were we concerned it could have gone other ways? Of course."

The militias and tax-protest movements and libertarians and other "patriots" must now find another leader with whom to promote their ideas.

Their ideas are not the issue here, of course. The manner in which the Browns sought to push forward those ideas, after ignoring the only justice system we have, was what emerged as so alarming.

Said Monier, addressing the media yesterday, "By their continuing actions, allegedly, to obstruct justice, to encourage others to assist them to obstruct justice, by making threats toward law enforcement and other governmental officials, they have turned this into more than a tax case."

Cool Hand Luke and others would have chosen a different avenue.
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So Elaine's in Club Fed and Ed is going to a Federal Pound You in the *** Prison? Hmmmm.....I wonder if Elaine smartened up and rolled.
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Disilloosianed wrote:So Elaine's in Club Fed and Ed is going to a Federal Pound You in the *** Prison? Hmmmm.....I wonder if Elaine smartened up and rolled.
Elaine's too meek (without Ed) for real prison and it would be irresponsible of them to put her in any place medium to maximum security.

Hopefully she'll undergo some deprogramming and go on to lead a happier life after she gets out.
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Beth (aka Yankeespie) reported on the Quest blog that the BOP told her that Ed's new home is in Elkton.
FCI Elkton

The Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in Elkton, Ohio, is a low security facility housing male offenders. It has an adjacent satellite low that houses low and minimum security male offenders.

FCI Elkton is located in central Columbiana County, 3 miles east of Lisbon, 30 miles south of Youngstown, and 45 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Judicial District: Northern Ohio
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In spite of everything--the threats, booby traps, weapons--I still feel a little sorry for these people, even Ed. They do belong in prison for their crimes. But it's still sad to a somewhat elderly married couple engage in wild-eyed fantasies, find a community that nourished and encouraged the fantasies, and end up losing everything they had. And Elaine, at least, had something--a real dental practice that she could have carried on with until retiring fairly comfortably.

I know that there are children of one or both of them, but I don't remember who had children or how many there are. But how would you like to think of your aging parents ending up like this?
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grammarian44 wrote:In spite of everything--the threats, booby traps, weapons--I still feel a little sorry for these people, even Ed. They do belong in prison for their crimes. But it's still sad to a somewhat elderly married couple engage in wild-eyed fantasies, find a community that nourished and encouraged the fantasies, and end up losing everything they had. And Elaine, at least, had something--a real dental practice that she could have carried on with until retiring fairly comfortably.

I know that there are children of one or both of them, but I don't remember who had children or how many there are. But how would you like to think of your aging parents ending up like this?
The child is a rabid supporter.
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grammarian44 wrote:In spite of everything--the threats, booby traps, weapons--I still feel a little sorry for these people, even Ed. They do belong in prison for their crimes. But it's still sad to a somewhat elderly married couple engage in wild-eyed fantasies, find a community that nourished and encouraged the fantasies, and end up losing everything they had. And Elaine, at least, had something--a real dental practice that she could have carried on with until retiring fairly comfortably.

I know that there are children of one or both of them, but I don't remember who had children or how many there are. But how would you like to think of your aging parents ending up like this?
Elaine has two boys from a prior marriage, one of whom is a tax protester but neither supported the stand to the death nonsense.

Ed has two daughters from prior marriages, neither of whom supported their stand.

Elaine has a brother, a retired police officer, who begged her to turn herself in, and offered to drive her to the marshals to start her sentence.

If it weren't for people like the Freestaters, Fred Smart, and Doug Kenline using the Browns for their own purposes, this might have been over long ago, and Ed and Elaine would have been looking at 3 year sentences with no additional charges, and the four supporters would have been home, on their computers, typing shrines to Ron Paul and Aaron Russo.
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