Dogwalker's defense strategy

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Re: Dogwalker's defense strategy

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webhick wrote:
2. The jail has cut the defendant's counsel's time in the law library to two(2) hours a day about three weeks ago, and some days the counsel gets no time at all.
So, Danny was hogging the law library for five hours a day.
No, not Danny. His counsel was hogging the law library. Can't you tell the difference?

Danny's counsel has also been talking at night, keeping Danny awake.
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Riley keeps screaming that he is "sui juris" and not "pro se," and that there's a difference. And he's right and he's wrong.

He's right that there is a difference between sui juris and pro se, because one can be sui juris (legally competent) without being pro se (representing one's self without a lawyer), and pro se without being sui juris.

And Riley is wrong because he's the latter. (Pro se without being sui juris.)
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He wants his cookie and his nookie. End of story
I can about promise he'll get one...

and is anyone as SHOCKED as I am that DTDW doesn't get along well with his comrades?
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I must be getting soft. :? The more I read of Dogwalker's rantings the more I think he is flat out incompetent to stand trial. Does he really have the mental wherewithal to understand the process he is involved in.

Maybe all this snow is making me soft in the head.

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I don't recall who used it here first, but the term "perpetual motion machine" in reference to DoggyWalker is oh, so, accurate.
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A post on another forum from a DW supporter (bolding added):
danny tells the courts he will no longer correspond with his court forced lawyer sven wiberg. read his filing here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2176911/danny-274

the courts response in record time...
02/26/2008 ENDORSED ORDER denying 274 Motion to
Dismiss as to Daniel Riley (1). Text of Order: Various
Motions to Dismiss are Denied. The Court understands
that Defendant Daniel Riley represents himself in this
case. The Court declines to remove standby counsel. So
Ordered by Chief Judge George Z. Singal. (jar)
(Entered: 02/26/2008)

however they still list him as pro-se on the docket filings....
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From
http://www.scribd.com/full/2176889?acce ... jxzx80z7oh
The defendant has still never receivedthe picture from the original indictment on page 7, ¶ 10(p). The indictment asserts (not alleges) that defendant RILEY and Co-Conspirator A (Cirino Gonzalez) and another person not named, posed with Ed Brown for a picture. In this picture, the indictment assets "RILEY and co-conspirator A possess rifles."
Looks like the original indictment had a flaw. Considering that he 'll be going to trial based on Superseding Indictment #3, I think he needs to focus on what 's alleged in that current document instead.

Paragraph 10(p) was changed in the superceding indictments and now looks like this.
p - At a date uncertain but between in or around May 2007 and in or around September 2007, GONZALEZ and GERHARD and another person posed for a photograph with Edward Brown. The photograph was posted to an account on a social networking internet site, myspace.com, that was registered to GERHARD. The internet account was used to make statements in support of Edward Brown and Elaine Brown. In the photograph, GONZALEZ and GERHARD possess rifles ;
The photo:
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Man, his latest filings really are confused. I can't remember, wasn't he found competent to stand trial after an exam? It sounds like jail is not going well for him at all. I suppose he'll have the rest of his life to get used to it - if he survives. I hate to say that, but its a possibility. Shame on his brother for not helping danny out.
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Demosthenes wrote:
In the photograph, GONZALEZ and GERHARD possess rifles;
The photo:
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I don't see any rifles. Gonzalez and Gerhard have straps on their shoulders, but I don't know if those are rifle straps or camera bags.
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CaptainKickback wrote:In the lower left of the picture, you can see the trigger assembly for a rifle.
You can also see the magazine (from the bottom). It is hard to tell for sure, but it looks like an AR-15.

The strap on Reno's shoulder looks too thin to be a rifle sling and whatever the item is at the end of the strap does not look like a weapon (or at least a rifle). Maybe it is a Murse with a handgun in it. :thinking:
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CaptainKickback wrote:In the lower left of the picture, you can see the trigger assembly for a rifle.
Good eye.
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ErsatzAnatchist wrote: You can also see the magazine (from the bottom). It is hard to tell for sure, but it looks like an AR-15.
That's precisely what it is.
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People who make bombs with the intent to kill or maim federal employees are certainly not high on my list of people to set free. Don't you think it would be a tad more prudent to start by releasing people who were nabbed for "possession of marijuana" or "public drunkeness" or prostitution instead?
Danny, who are basically all talk and no action,
I think you're channeling Stevie. Danny wasn't all talk with no action. He purchased the explosive material himself, had it delivered to his home, and then drove it to the Browns to build those pesky bombs.
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I think you're channeling Stevie.
Whereis Steve these days? Haven't seen him lately.
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Dr. Caligari wrote:
I think you're channeling Stevie.
Whereis Steve these days? Haven't seen him lately.
Hey - knock it off. I don't want to draw him back in. It's nice to lurk (as I generally do) knowing that the offtopic rate is at a reasonable level. Steve's ability to threadjack was pretty good. If he had half an ounce of sense, he could be a public information officer somewhere and do quite well.
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UGA Lawdog wrote:
Demosthenes wrote: I think you're channeling Stevie.
One, I don't really care what you think, since you insult me by comparing me with that idiot.

Two, yes, these idiots made bombs and threats. But when push came to shove, their pledges not to be taken without a fight came to naught. They punked out.
Just what Stevie said!

http://quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.p ... a&start=45

Has anyone actually even seen UGA Lawdog and Stevie at the same time? :lol:
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Unfortunately, it is far, far more likely that Danny will be spending a very, very long and bitter time in prison.
Yea, I tend to agree. As an interesting parallel, there was a report released recently that gave the background of an Aryan Nation's member, Sean Michael Gillespie. In 2004, he threw a Molotov cocktail at the Temple B'Nai Israel in Oklahoma City, OK. It did some minor (smoke) damage and no one was injured. He was subsequently convicted and sentenced to 30 years, and has been housed in maximum/high security facilities ever since. Although the motivations behind the crimes were different, I'd say the only difference between the two is the forward motion of an arm, or alternatively, a 4 pound trigger pull. Dogwalker and crew made their intent clear through multiple statements, and gathered/created the explosives and weapons necessary to act on those threats. Where Gillespie had a flammable liquid in a container, Dogwalker and crew had what the ATF categorized as a few hundred (if I recall correctly) explosive items/devices. If cases like Gillespie's are any guide, Dogwalker is looking at a very, very long time in jail. It will be nice when this is finally over, though. Perhaps then Dogwalker and crew will fade permanently into obscurity and be forgotten by all.
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Oh no, they're stealing our Essence!
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There seems to be a common thread among the further fringes of the "protest du jure" community, and that is an attempt to justify breaking the law when they perceive some injustice (even done to others), then ignore the potential personal consequences until after they find themselves incarcerated or at least charged.

At that point, the screaming and hollering about the perceived injustice ramps up and seems to blot out any rational analysis of their own situation.

It's deja vu all over again. And again. :roll:
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UGA Lawdog wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:Just what Stevie said!

http://quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.p ... a&start=45

Has anyone actually even seen UGA Lawdog and Stevie at the same time? :lol:
You just don't know when to quit, do you? Steve didn't advocate cutting anyone's nuts off in exchange for letting them out of the joint.
Perhaps I can be of assistance.

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