The Brown Supporter Trial

[Dezcad]

I spent the day sitting between Scoop and Bill Riley. More soon.

Can't wait to read all about it.

[LPC]

I spent the day sitting between Scoop and Bill Riley. More soon.

You'll let us know which one was hotter?

[webhick]

I spent the day sitting between Scoop and Bill Riley. More soon.

You're killing me with these teasers, you know that, right?

[LPC]

I'm fricken' cold.

Consider yourself lucky. Once it gets warmer, and the ice and snow start to melt, you'll be (at least) ankle deep in mud.

Google "mud season" for details.

[webhick]

I'm fricken' cold.

Consider yourself lucky. Once it gets warmer, and the ice and snow start to melt, you'll be (at least) ankle deep in mud.

Google "mud season" for details.

Actually it's been slowly melting and refreezing for a couple of weeks or so. A chilly morning (20 degrees) with a semi-warm afternoon (50 degrees) is a pretty standard spring/fall. It's only a false spring because we just know that skimoboarding season can't be over. The weather gods are simply not that kind.

[Bud Dickman]

DW's blog

Tuesday, March 25, 2008
The Trial - Day 2

Today’s trial events:

The defense teams cross examined the Marshal’s IT expert regarding the emails that were exchanged between Danny and Reno. Reno’s lawyer basically got the IT expert to concede that most of the emails were one-way traffic from Danny to Reno with little or no reply traffic from Reno. Also he noted that several of the emails from Danny were to a large distribution group, one of which highlighted the fact that the Ed and Elaine story had made the front page of the LA Times, with a link to the article.

Next the prosecution introduced the video from the camera that was set up at the end of the driveway and recorded the shots that were fired at Danny on 6/7/2007. The initial playback of the video was problematic because it skipped the crucial middle video file in the sequence of 3 files. It just played the first file and skipped to the third file. The 2nd video file was played moments later and it clearly showed that of all the weapons in this whole ordeal, the only ones fired in anger were those of the government. This video clearly backs up Danny’s affidavit from that day. Now that this video is in the public domain, it should appear shortly on youtube.

The prosecution then played the Audio recording from WTP radio of the red alert incident when shots were fired in the woods during the night. Danny called the radio station and spoke with Torrin Wolf and Jack Blood. The jury got to hear this audio segment in its entirety. I thought this audio did a great job of clearly highlighting that the supporters of the browns were clearly in a defensive posture with orders to not fire unless fired upon.

The prosecution then called up the pilot of the helicopter that flew in the area of the browns property on 6/7/2007. He established foundation for a short video segment from the helicopter's gyro stabilized, high powered video camera that merely showed Ed moving the lawn mower around and repositioning the pickup truck in the garage with Reno acting as armed security.

The prosecution then showed a video of a walk through of the Browns house shortly after their arrest that showed weapons, including 50 cal rifles, positioned at the ready at strategic points throughout the house. It also showed improvised black powder nail grenades stored at various locations in the house. It also showed improvised zip guns in various stages of construction in the garage workshop area. The video also showed unmixed tannerite stored in the house. The video also highlighted the survival rations and auxiliary power setup that the browns had. It also showed Elaine’s dental setup and a hyperbaric chamber that were in the house.

The prosecution then called the lead ATF EOD expert who was on scene to dispose of the weaponry to introduce all the improvised black powder nail grenades into evidence. The ATF EOD expert also explained what tannerite was and that it was not explosive until mixed and that it was used on shooting ranges to create small explosive targets to facilitate long range target practice.

End of day 2.

[Demosthenes]

The 2nd video file was played moments later and it clearly showed that of all the weapons in this whole ordeal, the only ones fired in anger were those of the government.

All I saw were blurry beige blobs (Marshals in camo) moving around the screen. Who knew that one could see anger in in blurry blobs?

I really doubt the jury could make out what was happening at all, let along seeing when are where shots were fired.

Reno acting as armed security.

There's that danged felony thing again.

I've posted my recap of the day here:

http://www.redcrayons.net

[Dezcad]

I've posted my recap of the day here:
http://www.redcrayons.net

I read a little about Bill, nothing about Scoop. Are you holding back anything?

Was Joe around or any other FSP flakes?

[Demosthenes]

I've posted my recap of the day here:
http://www.redcrayons.net

I read a little about Bill, nothing about Scoop. Are you holding back anything?

Was Joe around or any other FSP flakes?

Bill's a nice guy, and we got along just fine.

Scoop's my buddy.

A bunch a new people were in court in the early afternoon. No sign of Haas or any protesters outside, though.

[LPC]

Even the Brown-oriented sites seem to be pathologically unaware of the fate of his supporters.

Nothing on "Show Us the Inherent Law" (http://questforfairtrialinconcordnh.blogspot.com/), even though the most recent posting is yesterday, 3/24, and there is a 3/21 posting about a "Free Bill Miller" demonstration.

Nothing on MakeTheStand.com, where the most recent post is 2/28/2008. (By the way, where is Shaun Kranish these days? Perhaps preoccupied with his own legal troubles?)

Also nothing on http://www.triallogs.com (not a Brown-oriented site, but at least a trial-oriented site), where the most recent posting is today, but it's about how Sherry Jackson is sick and is being mistreated in jail.

Face it, for the Browns, their "supporters," and tax deniers generally, Riley et al. have all the appeal of a used kleenex.

What's even more annoying is that nothing has changed since I posted that message almost 12 hours ago.

What? They don't hang on our every word?

[webhick]

What's even more annoying is that nothing has changed since I posted that message almost 12 hours ago.

It's a bit sad when you think about it. Here these guys were, so convinced of their beliefs that they were willing to kill and martyr themselves for Ed & Elaine, and there are only a few people from their camp still paying attention.

What? They don't hang on our every word?

They tried. But we had them busted for loitering on the big ones.

[ErsatzAnatchist]

What's even more annoying is that nothing has changed since I posted that message almost 12 hours ago.

It's a bit sad when you think about it. Here these guys were, so convinced of their beliefs that they were willing to kill and martyr themselves for Ed & Elaine, and there are only a few people from their camp still paying attention.

I was hoping for major riots and the national guard being called out. Something along the lines of the Rodney King verdict riot in LA.

My Evil Black Rifle buddies could then live out their TEOTWAKI fantasies and open up all of that Mountain House food.

I guess NH does have some compensations for its Bad Weather (weather so bad it gets capitalized) over California. No rioting. :angrybird:

[Imalawman]

Demo, if you're cold, then you should never come to visit me. 20 degrees in the morning is warm, not cold. Cold doesn't begin until around 5 degrees, then its cold. But 5 can feel warm after a week of sub-zero temps.

Anyway, thanks for the site. Interesting. I notice that you failed to establish whether Bill Riley or Scoop is more cute. Is it that hard of a decision?

I wonder what the attorneys think of this case. Do they think they have a shot in hell? Those vids are just damning, be interesting to see what kind of case they present.

[Demosthenes]

You can view the marshal's tape of the Dogwalker event here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvYdjSQdRd4

[Nikki]

Inetresting how the video is accompanied with totally objective commentary.

Pro news videographer Dave Ridley takes you to the front lines of the peaceful battle for liberty in New Hampshire. Ron Paul Revolutionaries, Free Staters, government intrigue, Ed Brown fallout...in Live Free or Die country, history unfolds before your eyes.

[ErsatzAnatchist]

You can view the marshal's tape of the Dogwalker event here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvYdjSQdRd4

Perhaps the US Marshal's Office should switch to that new fangled smokeless powder. That black powder leaves too much video evidence.

Seriously, that video sucked in terms of quality. Couldn't they get some web porn star to set up their webcam.

[Demosthenes]

Some really fascinating lies posted on Makethestand.

MaidMarion
Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2007
Posts: 1423
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:51 am

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Reno was in court today and his trial seems to be going well. Evidently a US Marshall was caught lying on the stand and the Judge reprimanded him quite severely. Don't know the details but if you go to the archives for Mike Chambers, the Midnight Rider on RBN for March 25, 2008 you can hear an interview with Reno's girlfriend. She was the one reporting what was going on in court.

Wow.

JD-Spydo
Initiate
Joined: Jun 19, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: Blue Springs, Missouri USA
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:29 am

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Yeah MM I heard that on Mike Chamber's Mid Night Rider show last night on RBN. Reno's girlfriend gave a great interview in spite of the tremendous pressure she is under at this time. If the Federal Marshall was scolded by the Federal Court judge for obviously lying then why doesn't Reno's attorney make a motion for this piece crap to be slammed with perjury charges. This is truly an abomination that he got on the stand and blatantly lied and bore "false witness" against a decent and brave American patriot but it is more an abomination that they don't press perjury charges against this piece of sewage. These Federal goon Judas goats are the ones that belong in prison and we need to explore possibilites of either filing lawsuits against them or trying to get them indicted by their own fraternity of scum.

[webhick]

Evidently a US Marshall was caught lying on the stand and the Judge reprimanded him quite severely.

Bill's already posted his observations about day three...and there's no mention of this. Considering his perspective on the case, he definitely would have mentioned something like that.

...you can hear an interview with Reno's girlfriend. She was the one reporting what was going on in court.

Was she in the same courtroom?

Oh, and speaking of Bill's blog:

Trial – Day 3 Events:

The day started with continuation of the ATF EOD expert testimony. Several more improvised fragmentation grenades were introduced into evidence. The expert determined that all of the small cans of black powder with fuses inserted into the lids were classified as destructive devices. Cans that didn’t have fuses were not classified as destructive devices. The expert also explained and showed on a plan view of the property were his team setup bomb disassembly stations and explained how the destructive devices were disassembled.

In an unusual deviation from normal trial procedure, the judge allowed the defense to call a witness “out of order” because the witness was going on vacation next week and would not be available. The judge instructed the jury as to what was going on and allowed the defense witness to be call to the stand. The defense witness was the technical leader of the ATF DNA LAB who performed and oversaw the DNA sample collection and testing for the evidence sent to his lab from the Brown's. The expert explained how simply touching items will leave small remnants of DNA on the item that could then be collected months later and tested. He explained how DNA profiling is extremely reliable at including a person or excluding a person as a contributor of the DNA material that was collected and tested. The expert was given all the pipe bombs, improvised fragmentation grenades and firearms that were at the Browns house, over 100 items in total. DNA samples were obtained from 20 out of the 100 items. The lab collected the samples by swabbing various points on the items (e.g. the end caps of pipe bombs, the lids of black powder cans, the trigger area of a firearm, the eye piece of a rifle scope etc.). His reports from this testing conclusively EXCLUDED all the defendants. NO MATCHING DNA WAS FOUND. On cross examination it was also reveal that law enforcement DNA was detected on some of the items indicating the some evidence contamination had occurred.

Several witnesses were called from the various stores where weapons were allegedly purchased. Each witness was used to establish foundation so ATF 4473 (gov’t background check) forms from each of the purchases could be entered into evidence. The first ATF 4473 form was for a purchase of a 12 gauge shotgun made at a Sports Authority store on Long Island in the name of Jason L. Gerhard. This form showed that Jason passed the background check and legally obtained this firearm. Another store clerk witness from a Wal-Mart in Middle Island, NY talked about an ATF 4473 form of the purchase of another 12 gauge shotgun made by a person named Justin Martin Gerhard. This form showed that the person passed the background check and legally obtained the weapon. On cross examination of this witness, the defense produced the NY State driving record of one Justin Martin Gerhard with the same birth date as Jason L. Gerhard. This made it look like a case of mistaken identity and cast doubt on the relevance of that form. A third witness was used to introduce an ATF 4473 form from the purchase of a FEG KBI weapon at a store in Maryland back in 1998 by Daniel J. Riley. This form showed that the background check was passed and the weapon was legally purchased.

The prosecution then wheeled in a cart with several of the weapons collected at the Brown’s, including two 50 cal firearms, several shotguns and smaller caliber weapons. The ATF field tech that oversaw the weapons collection at the site was called to the stand. The prosecution then brandished the weapons in front of the jury, one at a time, in a highly inflammatory way and had the ATF witness match photos taken at the scene with each weapon. On cross examination it was noted that one of the 50 caliber rifles was found with no scope and no iron sights on the weapon, rendering it useless for any kind of effective target shooting.

Another ATF witness was called who was an expert in firearms and tool markings from the ATF lab outside of Washington DC. It was noted that the serial number on the FEG weapon found at the Brown’s had been removed. The ATF lab was able to fully restore the serial number for this weapon through various lab techniques. The witness explained the nature of serial numbers and the various lab techniques used to restore an obliterated serial number.

[Demosthenes]

Was she in the same courtroom?

Nope.

[Demosthenes]

Today's update is posted.

http://www.redcrayons.net