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I came across this and thought you would be interested.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1176282246546
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We had an extensive thread on this case a couple of months ago when they won.
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OOPS :oops: I guess I missed that one. I musta-been OTL on that one.
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You won't find anyone here that thinks the IRS is perfect. Sometimes they deserve to lose. Just not to wackos and their nonsense.
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Imalawman wrote:You won't find anyone here that thinks the IRS is perfect. Sometimes they deserve to lose. Just not to wackos and their nonsense.
The people involved in this case should have gotten a lot more money in their settlement IMHO.
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Demosthenes wrote:
Imalawman wrote:You won't find anyone here that thinks the IRS is perfect. Sometimes they deserve to lose. Just not to wackos and their nonsense.
The people involved in this case should have gotten a lot more money in their settlement IMHO.
Yeah, I agree. This is rather egregious. Maybe they were just tired of fighting.
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Imalawman wrote:You won't find anyone here that thinks the IRS is perfect. Sometimes they deserve to lose. Just not to wackos and their nonsense.
There was a Tax Court case earlier this week that I was thinking about citing because the Tax Court reversed the IRS on the result of a collection due process hearing, holding that it was an "abuse of discretion" for the IRS to deny innocent spouse relief.

To me the case demonstrated two things:

1. CDP hearings really can serve the purpose for which they were intended (which was not to allow tax deniers another chance to vent); and

2. The IRS does make mistakes and when it does, the courts are willing and able to correct them.
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2. The IRS does make mistakes
Yes, indeed.

and when it does, the courts are willing and able to correct them.
Sometimes, anyway. Not often enough, in my humble experience.
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LPC wrote: There was a Tax Court case earlier this week that I was thinking about citing because the Tax Court reversed the IRS on the result of a collection due process hearing, holding that it was an "abuse of discretion" for the IRS to deny innocent spouse relief.

To me the case demonstrated two things:

1. CDP hearings really can serve the purpose for which they were intended (which was not to allow tax deniers another chance to vent); and

2. The IRS does make mistakes and when it does, the courts are willing and able to correct them.
What is not realized are the situations where the person(s) being persecuted don't have the resources to mount a serious or determined defense and simply buckle.

I, and most here, probably know someone who will just about pay anything (assuming they have it) to avoid getting into a protracted fight in such matters. There is a general sense that like the list of "aggressive tax preparers," there are lists you don't want to be on.
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