As I have already told you, that argument has been tried before and has NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFUL. The reason it has never been successful is because it is ABSURD, FRIVOLOUS, IDIOTIC, MORONIC, STUPID, DUMB, etc. Section 1 of the 14th amendment states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." There is very little ambiguous about that sentence. If you don't want to be treated like a person who never graduated from third grade, then you need to stop trying to present all these sovereign citizen arguments.GoldandSilverEagles wrote:The Operative wrote: Under the Constitution and the federal tax laws, a U.S. citizen is a person who was born in one of the 50 states or territories.
Nice try but NO!
Even the feds are smart enough to realize the ambiguity of the 14th Amendment. As I've previously mentioned to the meatheads in here, the term "United States" has more than one legal definition (Blacks Law Dictionary, 8th edition).
It's not the US Constitution that secured citizenry, it's contract law, and contract law **can** supersede the Constitution when properly used. I feel the following is a MAJOR reason anti-taxing zealots consistently fail.
The sheople are taught they NEED a SSN, that it's required by law (which is total BS!) On the application for a social security card, Line 3 says "CITIZENSHIP" (check one) the first option is "U.S. Citizen". Now because all of the sheople within this matrix have been ***taught*** that we're "US Citizens" because we are born in the usA, everyone automatically marks that spot, regardless of whether you were born within a federal territory/ or upon the jurisdiction of any one of the 50 united states.
And that is how Americans born on American soil (within the 50 states, and legally outside of a federal territory) legally become "US Citizens".
Years ago, in confidence, a multi-millionaire said to me.."The Federal Government is the most corrupt government in the world." so I can totally understand this type of legal perversion being perpetrated upon the American sheople.
I realize this may be far too simple for many of the 'Hitler youth' in here to comprehend, but I cannot open a closed mind.
The courts have rejected the 'contract' argument too. You need to open your mind and understand that NONE OF THESE ARGUMENTS ARE NEW TO US. We have heard them all before and we have seen them lose in court before.
Are you going to read any of the links that I provide? Here are a few more...
http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#contract
http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#SSN
My patience is not infinite. If you do not want to be labeled as "dumber than a box of rocks" and placed on ignore, then you need to stop presenting arguments in the manner of trying to 'teach' us something. I am not all-knowing, but I definitely know that what you have presented is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and 99.999% of the lawyers and judges in this country will tell you that you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
Now, if you have a legitimate question about income taxes or the tax laws, we will be happy to answer that question. However, do not attempt to tell us that we do not know the basics of tax law or citizenship. I guarantee that most posters here have more knowledge about tax law than any sovereign citizen ignoramus.