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http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/brown2_88.pdf

He also tried during the Dan Riley trial.
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Link doesn't work?
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Fixed.
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Demosthenes wrote:http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/brown2_88.pdf

He also tried during the Dan Riley trial.
He was also responsible for the gem at Docket #73.
05/11/2009 73 NOTICE of Dishonor/Fault and Opportunity to Cure, with Bonded Promissory Note signed by Elaine Alice Brown and an unsigned Bonded Promissory Note by Wayne M. Crowley. (dae) (Entered: 05/12/2009)
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Someone's gonna get their notary license pulled.
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Doktor Avalanche wrote:Someone's gonna get their notary license pulled.
And the idea of a notary notarizing his own statement is really a stroke of genius.
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Cpt Banjo wrote:
Doktor Avalanche wrote:Someone's gonna get their notary license pulled.
And the idea of a notary notarizing his own statement is really a stroke of genius.
He was stroking something but I seriously doubt it was genius.
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I thought that Congress passed laws to prevent sovereign idiots from sending stuff like this judges and court officials, etc., or does that only apply if they actually file the bogus liens?
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Joey Smith wrote:I thought that Congress passed laws to prevent sovereign idiots from sending stuff like this judges and court officials, etc., or does that only apply if they actually file the bogus liens?
Title 18 USC, Part I, Chapter 73 Section 1521:

§ 1521. Retaliating against a Federal judge or Federal law enforcement officer by false claim or slander of title

Whoever files, attempts to file, or conspires to file, in any public record or in any private record which is generally available to the public, any false lien or encumbrance against the real or personal property of an individual described in section 1114, on account of the performance of official duties by that individual, knowing or having reason to know that such lien or encumbrance is false or contains any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.
Section 1114 describes who is protected. Title 18 USC, Part I, Chapter 51:
Whoever kills or attempts to kill any officer or employee of the United States or of any agency in any branch of the United States Government (including any member of the uniformed services) while such officer or employee is engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties, or any person assisting such an officer or employee in the performance of such duties or on account of that assistance, shall be punished—
(1) in the case of murder, as provided under section 1111;
(2) in the case of manslaughter, as provided under section 1112; or
(3) in the case of attempted murder or manslaughter, as provided in section 1113.
Here's a kick in the head:

A New Hampshire state clerk must accept a UCC-1 even if they know it's bogus.

Yeah, you read it right - they must accept it. The only time they can turn it down is spelled out under N.H. R.S.A. § 382-A:9-516(b) and that's only if it's the wrong form or if the person filing the lien didn't pay the correct amount on the filing fee.

Now you got three options if you find yourself in New Hampshire on the recieving end of this. You can:

1. File a correction statement (which doesn't "affect the effectiveness" of the lien)

2. File a civil suit for damages (which is going to cost you mucho dinero and much of your time)

3. File a civil suit to cancel the statement (which is also going to cost your money/time).

Here's the part that bites shiny metal butt:

N.H. R.S.A. § 382-A:9-529 defines a fraudulent filing as a financing statement “intentionally or knowingly” filed and not authorized under either RSA §§ 382-A:9-509 or 9-708; or the “financing statement contains a material false statement;” or the “financing statement is groundless.”

If you can prove that the lien and the person filing it falls under either category your door prize is...a measley $5000.

Let's examine that for a moment, shall we? You get $5000, but your court costs may be 3-4 times that much. Doesn't that sound amazingly stupid that you can't recoup your losses fighting this crap?

Congratulations, you're smarter than the New Hampshire state legislature.

Sorry, webhick, but remind me to never move to New Hampshire - that state sucks huge donkey dong. It's no wonder all the sovrun idiots are either from or congregate there - it's a sovrun idiot paradise when the law pretty much gives them a pass for their douchebaggery.

EDIT: I get the feeling that Wayne's commission is going to expire long before July 23, 2011.
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And the predictable responses:
05/26/2009 ENDORSED ORDER as to Edward Brown, Elaine Brown re 87 Affidavit of Non-Response. Text of Order: No action needed. Frivolous filing. SO ORDERED. So Ordered by Judge George Z. Singal. (dae) (Entered: 05/26/2009)
05/26/2009 ENDORSED ORDER as to Edward Brown, Elaine Brown re: 88 Notice of Protest/Default and Opportunity to Cure as to Edward Brown, Elaine Brown by Wayne M. Crowley. Text of Order: No action needed. Frivolous filing. SO ORDERED. So Ordered by Judge George Z. Singal. (dae) (Entered: 05/26/2009)
Personally, I think these idiots should spend more time beating their heads against the wall. After all, for them heads aren't vital organs.
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I must have missed something about Wayne Crowley ..... on what basis is he identified as a "Klan leader"?
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I can answer that!
New York Times, January 21 1991 wrote:Ku Klux Klan members who gathered today outside the state Capitol to protest the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday were pelted with snowballs and epithets by an angry mass of more than 1,000 counter-demonstrators.

The demonstration turned briefly into a melee when the Albany police, some on horseback, tried to restrain an anti-Klan protester who was approaching one of the Klansmen. Several dozen protesters rushed the line of officers to rescue their colleague and, with batons raised and horses swirling, the officers sent the panicked protesters running wildly away.

What the counter-demonstrators had intended as a declaration against racism was quickly transformed into a confrontation with authority, as the protesters chanted "Cops and Klan go hand in hand."

No arrests or injuries were reported.

For the first hour of the rally, the Klan had lived up to its billing as the Invisible Empire. Singing and Speaking

Wayne Crowley of Round Lake, N.Y., had received a state permit to use the Capitol steps for a 25-person Klan rally that would begin at 2 P.M. But for almost an hour there was no sign of the Klan, and the 1,500 counter-demonstrators had sole use of the Capitol grounds for singing, speaking and chanting.

At that point, a lone Klansman, Ron Demers, arrived and was quickly escorted behind a police barricade beside the Capitol steps. The counter-demonstrators converged on the other side of the barricade, tossing eggs and snowballs at Mr. Demers.

Wearing a camouflage jacket that had the words Ku Klux Klan and a Klan emblem on it, Mr. Demers said he had come to meet several associates.

"I personally don't believe Martin Luther King's birthday should be a national holiday," said Mr. Demers, who refused to say where he lived. "I believe black should be black and white should be white, separation of the races." 'What a Joke'

Then a group of about a dozen Klan members from Connecticut arrived. Like Mr. Demers, they expressed disappointment that Mr. Crowley and his contingent had not materialized.

"No one from New York showed up? What a joke," said William E. Dodge of Bristol, who identified himself as the state leader of the Connecticut Klan. Mr. Dodge said his members had brought their white robes and hoods with them, but chose not to wear them.

As the Connecticut Klansmen tried to drive away, they were chased by the crowd and bombarded with snowballs.

Although several of the anti-Klan demonstrators conceded that their peaceful protest had been marred, they said that their numbers had discouraged a larger Klan showing.

"These ain't the Klan's kind of odds," said David Macks of Albany. "It's daylight, they're outnumbered, and they have no ropes and no guns."
Awww...the poor little bigot couldn't get any of his friends to come play with him.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Wayne Crowley was identified as a leader in the Ku Klux Klan. The end.
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Doktor Avalanche wrote:If you can prove that the lien and the person filing it falls under either category your door prize is...a measley $5000.

Let's examine that for a moment, shall we? You get $5000, but your court costs may be 3-4 times that much. Doesn't that sound amazingly stupid that you can't recoup your losses fighting this crap?
I don't know how complicated civil procedures are in NH, but I would think that it would be possible to find a lawyer who could file a suit to remove a fraudulent UCC financing statement for less than $5,000.

No, you're not going to recover much more than your legal fees, filing fees, and other costs, but it should be possible to break even.
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LPC wrote:...
I don't know how complicated civil procedures are in NH, but I would think that it would be possible to find a lawyer who could file a suit to remove a fraudulent UCC financing statement for less than $5,000.

No, you're not going to recover much more than your legal fees, filing fees, and other costs, but it should be possible to break even.
Actually, no. In the first place, you'll get a judgment and will have to collect, but almost more troublesome is you'll spend hours and hours of time and effort trying to get the alleged UCC debt and liens off your credit report (and other databases), and some of them will routinely reappear without explanation because of how they are raked into the system.
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Judge Roy Bean wrote:
LPC wrote:...
I don't know how complicated civil procedures are in NH, but I would think that it would be possible to find a lawyer who could file a suit to remove a fraudulent UCC financing statement for less than $5,000.

No, you're not going to recover much more than your legal fees, filing fees, and other costs, but it should be possible to break even.
Actually, no. In the first place, you'll get a judgment and will have to collect,
I didn't think about that. Yes, collecting would almost certainly result in additional costs.
Judge Roy Bean wrote:but almost more troublesome is you'll spend hours and hours of time and effort trying to get the alleged UCC debt and liens off your credit report (and other databases), and some of them will routinely reappear without explanation because of how they are raked into the system.
I was responding to a comment about "court costs," but you're right: the time, expense, and aggravation of trying to correct credit reports will also be uncompensated.
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Judge Roy Bean wrote:
LPC wrote:...
I don't know how complicated civil procedures are in NH, but I would think that it would be possible to find a lawyer who could file a suit to remove a fraudulent UCC financing statement for less than $5,000.

No, you're not going to recover much more than your legal fees, filing fees, and other costs, but it should be possible to break even.
Actually, no. In the first place, you'll get a judgment and will have to collect, but almost more troublesome is you'll spend hours and hours of time and effort trying to get the alleged UCC debt and liens off your credit report (and other databases), and some of them will routinely reappear without explanation because of how they are raked into the system.
If the sovrun actually has some assets, couldn't you sue for slander of credit? Might even be Federal, as the credit agencies are out-of-state....

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What about criminal damages?
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Arthur Rubin wrote: If the sovrun actually has some assets, couldn't you sue for slander of credit? Might even be Federal, as the credit agencies are out-of-state....
That's a mighty big if - and there goes more of your money and time.
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I wonder who I'd complain to in order to get Mr. Crowley's commission yanked as this guy has clearly broken the public trust with his shenanigans.

EDIT: This just in....

Seems to me Mr. Crowley is in violation of the Notary Public License Law, specifically:
§175.40 Issuing a false certificate.
A person is guilty of issuing a false certificate when, being a public servant authorized by law to make or issue official certificates or other official written instruments, and with intent to defraud, deceive or injure another person, he issues such an instrument, or makes the same with intent that it be issued, knowing that it contains a false statement or false information.
Issuing a false certificate is a class E felony.
§195.00 Official misconduct.
A public servant is guilty of official misconduct when, with intent to obtain a benefit or to injure or deprive another person of a benefit:
8) 1. He commits an act relating to his office but constituting an unauthorized exercise of his official functions, knowing that such act is unauthorized; or
2. He knowingly refrains from performing a duty which is imposed upon him by law or is clearly inherent in the nature of his office.
Official misconduct is a class A misdemeanor.
I admit this is threadbare, but:
Notary public—disqualifications.
Though a person may be eligible to hold the office of notary the person may be disqualified to act in certain cases by reason of having an interest in the case. To state the rule broadly: if the notary is a party to or directly and pecuniarily interested in the transaction, the person is not capable of acting in that case. For example, a notary who is a grantee or mortgagee in a conveyance or mortgage is disqualified to take the acknowledgment of the grantor or mortgagor; likewise a notary who is a trustee in a deed of trust; and, of course, a notary who is the grantor could not take his own acknowledgment. A notary beneficially interested in the conveyance by way of being secured thereby is not competent to take the acknowledgment of the instrument. In New York the courts have held an acknowledgment taken by a person financially or beneficially interested in a party to conveyance or instrument of which it is a part to be a nullity; and that the acknowledgment of an assignment of a mortgage before one of the assignees is a nullity; and that an acknowledgment by one of the incorporators of the other incorporators who signed a certificate was of no legal effect.
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grixit wrote:What about criminal damages?
Not to be a smart ass, but what about them?

I'm sure there are penalties in New Hamsphire for filing a bogus lien/encumberment but it doesn't get to the heart of the problem: the amount of money you're going to lose trying to get out from under this vs. the paltry sum the court is going to award you.

And then you'll still have to take the sovrun to civil court in order to collect your damages, assuming s/he even has any assets (which, in most cases, they don't).
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