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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Fastmoney » Thu May 27, 2010 2:28 am

I now know Broker Jones deal is 100% legit..

I am alertpaying 1,000,000 tonight..

I want to make 6% a month..


BTW: Hi, everyone...

Fastmoney

Re: SCAM.COM

Postby Fastmoney » Thu May 27, 2010 2:32 am

Well at least it was not deleted.

After Len deleted the jones thread, I was back down to 1000 posts, if he would of deleted the yoli thread, I might of been down to a few 100...

getupnow

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby getupnow » Thu May 27, 2010 2:42 am

Welcome FM....of course look how much money you would have missed out on if it hadn't been for a 20 year expert like Len Clements co-signing for Broker Jones. The sophisticated investment community is fortunate to have such a seasoned crusader on the side of truth, justice and double digit monthly returns.

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Re: SCAM.COM

Postby PhotoHound » Thu May 27, 2010 3:04 am

Still no reply on why I was banned from Scam.Com

Honestly wish I knew the reason or given a 'Why' so I know not to make the same mistake.

I quite enjoyed the site.

If there is anyone here who is still at Scam.Com who could make enquiries? I would be extremely grateful.

Blessings - Mike

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Doc Bunkum » Thu May 27, 2010 4:56 am

Glad to see you found the site, fastmoney.

You realize it's entirely appropriate to start a new thread in the MLM Scams Forum to discuss Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex?

Might be a good idea to get one going, Jack.

That's what the forum's for.

Unless there's a more appropriate place, like under the INVESTMENT FRAUD & BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES SCAMS subsection.

Not sure because I never go there.

James R

Re: SCAM.COM

Postby James R » Thu May 27, 2010 5:05 pm

I don't know if many of you have seen this, bit it is a perfect insight into the "Life of Lenny".

He goes on this forum with his "Court Certified" snake oil salesman crap and gets blown out in less than 24 hours.

It started like this:

As a brief intro, I've been a consumer advocate, or "watchdog", serving the direct sales industry since 1990. I am currently one of only seven "court certified" experts in the field of multilevel marketing and pyramid schemes...


And predictably ended like this:

Jesus, what a bunch of pricks......Turns out this board is as full of cowardly trolls who get off on trashing people, completely unprovoked, as scam.com and quatloos!


Start at post #271
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=167749&page=7

Notice that nobody had posted in this thread since the 11th of May until Lenny showed up...then all hell broke loose.

getupnow

Re: SCAM.COM

Postby getupnow » Thu May 27, 2010 5:22 pm

Lenny's narcissism and need for any kind of attention is absolutely the worst case I have ever witnessed. It has absolutely destroyed any kind of good reputation he had in MLM and the only people who respect him are groupies such as Chris Doyle and Heiney.

He pulled a blind squirrel with the first company he worked in MLM and has gone broke trying to prove it wasn't a fluke ever since.

He now has been reduced to begging for an unpaid Admin position at a website owned by a porn mogul so that he can say he got the last word on those who were trying to get the truth out about his history in the industry he claims to be an expert in.

He will be kicked out of that position within 45 days or less after the porn mogul sees how much traffic he has lost as a result of putting Len Clements in as an Admin and he will then be forced to find another site to feed his desperate need for attention. In the meantime, he will continue to put all of his energies into feeding his narcissism while going broke because he refuses to simply get a real job, lay down his narcissistic cape and try and figure out how to be happy.

BruceShuell

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby BruceShuell » Thu May 27, 2010 10:35 pm

Those skeptics are pretty funny people! They really did seem torn up by Len's stomping out the door. Hasn't he learned yet that that 'court certified' junk enrages people and the whole 'look at how great I am' has the opposite effect he's looking for? A stupid mensa. I knew they were out there.

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby soapboxmom » Sat May 29, 2010 11:00 pm

05-24-2010, 07:05 PM
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New Administrator: What to Expect
Hello to all,

There has been quite an uproar lately over my having been made an Administrator of Scam.com. I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself to those who are not familiar with me and my work, and alleviate (or perhaps confirm) any fears by those who are.

My resume is HERE.

Yes, I am pro-MLM. But even more I am pro-truth. If that means practicing some tough love on this profession, then so be it. Even a few minutes perusing the Alerts and Articles section of my MarketWave website should reveal that I love this industry, but I do have some serious concerns about it. For example, articles like “MLM Products: Shouldn’t We Be Ashamed?”, “The Hype Cycle Revs Up”, and “MLM Gimmicks: The Truth Behind All Those Screwy Deals”. I regularly comment (both in writing and on my podcast) on companies, products and compensation plans that deserve much criticism.

Like any profession, there’s the good and the bad. They all have their Pro(fessionals) and Con(victs). I believe I have developed a keen ability over the past 20 years to identify which is which, and most importantly, to recognize such a distinction (no, they are not ALL scams).

So there’s my position. I clearly lean towards the pro-side of the spectrum, but I’m certainly not an extremist.

As for Scam.com, I believe, perhaps optimistically, that it still has great potential to be a very powerful weapon in the battle against scams, of all kinds. Unfortunately, Scam.com, and especially the MLM/Pyramid Scheme forum, has been overrun with those who have no intention or desire to expose any scams, to educate anyone about anything, or to be educated. There is a small but prolific faction of internet users that are commonly called Trolls. This is not a disparaging reference to the ugly creatures that live under bridges. Here’s the Wiki definition of Internet Troll. These are people who gain great personal gratification and a strong sense of power by antagonizing and even outright libeling others. The stronger the reaction they can get from their victim, the more power they feel for having controlled them. They almost always post anonymously so have no fear of reprisal. Trolls gain great comfort by never having to be personally accountable for what they say.

And, ironically, they’re scamming the visitors to Scam.com.

That’s the only thing I’m going to try to change. Freedom of speech, arguments, and runaway threads are still allowed, and if you feel using a lot of bad words somehow makes your argument stronger, go for it. This board is for adults. But if you’re going to call a company a scam, or a person a scammer, you better have a reason. And the reason can no longer be that it just makes you feel good. You can state your negative opinion about a company or an individual, too. Just state the reason you formed this opinion, and be prepared to defend your case. The days of making up trash out of thin air to throw at someone just because you don’t like them are over.

In a college debate class I took many years ago I recall the instructor saying, “If you can’t diminish the quality and credibility of your opponent’s argument, try to diminish the quality and credibility of your opponent.” I can’t think of a single example where this advice would be appropriate. And it’s not appropriate here. If you’ve lost the argument, stop arguing. If you attack someone here on a personal level just because you have no place else to go, or they made your argument look silly so it just feels good to get them, expect your post to be edited or deleted.

As far as I’m concerned, everyone has a clean slate. If you want to help us expose scams and bad guys, please stay, and actively participate. If all you’re doing here is getting off on smearing people and their MLM programs, just because it’s fun, go away. If you don’t, you’ll be warned. Once.

And by the way, if you feel you or your company has been libeled or defamed within this forum, before you have your attorney fire off a letter to the owner of this board, contact me first! Thanks.

Now, let’s go expose some scams!

Len Clements

:Axe:

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Doc Bunkum » Sun May 30, 2010 2:53 am

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Hello to all,

In a college debate class I took many years ago I recall the instructor saying, “If you can’t diminish the quality and credibility of your opponent’s argument, try to diminish the quality and credibility of your opponent.” I can’t think of a single example where this advice would be appropriate. And it’s not appropriate here. If you’ve lost the argument, stop arguing.

Len Clements

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You might take your own advice over on the JREF board where you keep trying to convince those folks that your intentions are pure regarding those magic wands.

Jesus, what a bunch of pricks. I came in here respectfully asking for help, and tried to answer what ever concerns you all had. I thought I was among some like minded skeptics who would be keen on helping me expose a scam. I really should have looked around a little before posting here. Turns out this board is as full of cowardly trolls who get off on trashing people, completely unprovoked, as scam.com and quatloos!

You can have your little mud puddle back. I've got better things, and better people, to deal with.


I suppose they should show you a little more respect, after alll...

For the record, besides having attended three "Amazing Meetings" here in Vegas, I spent a weekend with Ray Hyman and his fellow "Skeptic's Toolbox" faculty members at the University of Oregon where we were trained on, among other things, precisely how to "honestly test Alternate health".

Len

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby soapboxmom » Sun May 30, 2010 3:30 pm

Curiously, Lenny is not working on Scam.com:
Last Post:
Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A
05-26-2010 07:15 PM


He had the SuperMod reporting:
05-29-2010, 04:15 AM
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Re: Oceanside Network & Oceanside Forex....Q&A
Quote:Originally Posted by Live&Learn
We're waiting.
He's (Lenny's) out of town L&L until the end of next week.
Let's move on now.

Lady Mod

Yet, he has found time to post furiously over on http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=167749&page=7. Please read through page 12 and see how active he was yesterday, Saturday May 29th (please pardon my very fast, but woefully inadequate typing.) Very curious!

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby GlimDropper » Sun May 30, 2010 8:52 pm

soapboxmom wrote: Please read through page 12 and see how active he was yesterday, Saturday May 12th. Very curious!


[Clears throat] SBM, I'm sure you meant the 29th. No problem. :mrgreen:

It seems that Mr.Clements finds himself beset by trolls nearly anywhere he goes on the internet. He found them on mlm dot com, now at the JREF site and lord knows he thinks scam dot com is awash in them. That JREF site is particularly informative, he goes in saying "I've been a card carrying member of JREF (and CSICOP) for several years" and in agreement that the "Amega Wand" is pseudoscientific trash but long before the good Doctor showed up with some salt to rub in, Len wounded his own relationship with that board.

I could almost find, if not pitty then something like sympathy for Len. He's clearly unaware that his attitude causes people to question his motives and his reaction to those questions add substance to those early negative impressions. Since he seems genuinely blind to this process he's seemingly left unable to see why so many of the people he interacts with online do not like or trust him. Then add an apparent compulsive need to "win" any argument to a debating style predicated on avoiding inconvenient questions and it paints of picture of him being an arrogant, manipulative jerk and those cursed to arguing with him, in his mind at least, as "trolls."

I said I almost had sympathy for him, it would be more accurate to say "used to have." But he's now an admin on a forum he thinks is filled with trolls and now he's free to ban them all. I'm not saying scam.com doesn't have trolls or that no one there should ever be banned but Len needs to realize that some of the "trolls" he sees there are only "trolls" when interacting with him and if the community was given a choice of getting rid of the "trolls vis a vis Lenny" or just getting rid of Lenny, he'd have fewer trolls to deal with and we wouldn't need to deal with him at all.

Lisa

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Lisa » Mon May 31, 2010 1:01 am

So, I actually PM'd LM about Len becoming an Administrator. I don't post often in the MLM forum but I do browse there pretty often. The whole situation reminds me of when they made Mumbles a mod and he started banning people in the political forum that he didn't like. I really don't like that Len has become an admin over there, and neither does Stephanie. I was pretty pissed when I read his little announcment on the top of the page, I've always thought of scam as a place where people could voice their opinion, even if that opinion is wrong. (Just don't get pissed when people jump on your case for having an innacurate opinion.) I don't see why they needed another mod in the MLM forum, the ones they had were doing a perfectly good job. I asked her if she or Greg could revoke his status, I really don't feel he's earned his "stripes" on that site yet. Plus, any mod that deletes threads like he did has ZERO respect from me. Unfortunately I can't say this on scam, but it's the truth. I think deleting threads like he did goes against the very thing that scam.com is supposed to stand for.

I don't have a problem with Stephanie. But I also realize that, including myself, 90% of regular female posters on that site are super bitches. Katie in the WAHM forum has to be the only regular female poster I know that honestly isn't. I don't hold it against most of the female posters, I think you have to kinda be one in order to survive over there. I wouldn't blame Steph for what's going on, from what she's told me she is just as irritated/frustrated with this whole situation as well because no one told her about Len becoming an admin and then all of the sudden she was getting overloaded with complaints.

Anyway... I'm pretty pissed in general with the whole situation. I really think the site owner doesn't care and will give anyone who asks a mod/admin position. Anyone who would've looked at Len or mumbles posts would never have given either one of them positions on power if they had half a brain. I'm sorry to those of you who got banned, I thought you were doing a good job.

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby USANAWatchDog » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:01 am

I will probably be banned from Scam.com for posting this here, but I don't care anymore. The following is an email exchange between myself and Scam.com's supermoderator Sojustask regarding Len Clements and his ADMIN status on the forum. Len remains an Admin even after I send this information to the Supermod and Owner who granted Len his Admin status. I'll do my best to make this easy to follow.


My Initial message sent to several Moderators and Forum owner of Scam.com
Len wrote "And you know I never threatened you. That's an outright lie."

I take the following two Quotes as a threat. It is definitely a form of intimidation:

LEN WRITES on the Scam.com forum:
QUOTE
...
But you, and he, actually have no idea how much I've held back. While he's making up crap against me out of thin air in an attempt to disparage my ethics and character, I've possessed information about him that would be devastating if made public. You have no idea how many times I've written this exposé post after reading one of his hit pieces, only to hit delete instead of post.

And Steve, if you think I'm bluffing, here's a few hints for you...

1993, 2007, 2009
$1,107,355.50
$5,620.00
...
END QUOTE

and

QUOTE
...
I know exactly what game you're playing here. You know what skeletons I'm talking about (its interesting how much more information you can discover about someone once you know what their real first name is "Steve"), and you know if I present them you can declare your victimhood from Len's horrible smear campaign (especially considering who else it would implicate). If I don't reveal any of it, then you get to keep playing this pretend-I-don't-know-what-Len's-talking-about game and create the illusion I'm just making this all up.

Right... Joel?

I'm not going to embarrass you and your family with any of this because of some petty online feud.
END QUOTE


Again, I'm not Joel. However, Len took time to try to dig dirt up and then threatened to post it. This was Len Clements trying to stop me from revealing any more information about USANA and Len's cozy deal for his effort during the Minkow/USANA issue. I would like to know why Len remains an "ADMIN" at scam.com after this being reported.


Sojustask responds with:
I need the links and I suggest that you cc Zachary as well. I can't ban an Admin or remove him. Only Zachary can but he's going to want to see the proof.


I respond to Sojustask and Zachary with:
Sojustask & Zachary,

here are the links to the quotes:

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=8530 ... count=1114
QUOTE
And yes, Steve's attacks have turned very personal. When he can't discredit what I say he will often (now almost exclusively) resort to trying to discredit me, personally. And yes, I confess that I do have a weak spot in my character that he, and many others here, love to exploit. I do tend to lower myself to the level of my opponent in an argument, and I do tend to be snide and sarcastic. But you, and he, actually have no idea how much I've held back. While he's making up crap against me out of thin air in an attempt to disparage my ethics and character, I've possessed information about him that would be devastating if made public. You have no idea how many times I've written this exposé post after reading one of his hit pieces, only to hit delete instead of post.

And Steve, if you think I'm bluffing, here's a few hints for you...

1993, 2007, 2009
$1,107,355.50
$5,620.00
END QUOTE

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=8534 ... count=1140
QUOTE
I know exactly what game you're playing here. You know what skeletons I'm talking about (its interesting how much more information you can discover about someone once you know what their real first name is "Steve"), and you know if I present them you can declare your victimhood from Len's horrible smear campaign (especially considering who else it would implicate). If I don't reveal any of it, then you get to keep playing this pretend-I-don't-know-what-Len's-talking-about game and create the illusion I'm just making this all up.

Right... Joel?

I'm not going to embarrass you and your family with any of this because of some petty online feud.
END QUOTE

Have a good night!
- USANAWatchDog


I then send another message to Sojustask and Zachary that contains the following:
Sojustask & Zachary,

Allow me to further reveal proof that Len attempts to reveal my personal name as well as where I live.

http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=857448&postcount=200
QUOTE
So what do you think the odds are of my finding someone else with your first, middle and last name, and both living in the east/central part of Florida?

I'll tell you, Joel... its almost as astronomical as you manually performing over 3 million transcriptions of Usana ranks from personal websites by pulling two all-nighters

I already told you I'm not going to sink to your level and wage this type of personal attack on you, while potentially harming others who have no part in our feud. But don't try to tell me I've found the wrong Joel Steven Rxxxxxxxx.
ENDQUOTE


and


http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=857467&postcount=203
QUOTE
Quote:
Originally Posted by USANAWatchdog
For the Sixth time now, I am not "Joel". What game are you trying to play here?

Yes, you are. That's what the "J" stands for that appears before Steven on your Facebook page.

Len
ENDQUOTE


And Len has no problem revealing the name on other forums too. This is just to show you the pattern:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=80&start=60#p50518
QUOTE
... "WhiteKnight" is the afore mentioned Steven Rotolante.

... his identity has already been exposed on the Yahoo board, so his desire for anonymity can not be the reason for his refusal to debate live - his excuse is that he's just too shy.

...He is literally, clinically delusional...
END QUOTE

*Let it be known, it was Len who exposed my identity on the Yahoo Forum.



POSTED TWO DAYS AGO:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p= ... tcount=279
QUOTE
Tracy Coenen (Sequenceinc.com) is a cohort of Barry Minkow (Google him). The two links you provided refers to propaganda posted on Usana's Yahoo stock board by Steve Rotolante (alias terminatedramp - a name he came up with to proudly declare his account had previously been terminated by Yahoo) who is also an accomplice in Minkow's stock shorting scheme, and who hates me because I keep exposing his lies and mistakes. Coenen just took what ever garbage Rotolante posted and repeated it in her blog. When I went in to refute these claims and provide verifiable facts to support my rebuttal, Coanan, who claims to be a devout advocate of freedom of speech and defender of the First Amendment, deleted my responses and blocked my ability to comment on any of her blog entries.
ENDQUOTE
*Let it be know that I was NOT an "Accomplice" in any sort of "Scheme". Emailing a Chart of USANA's distributor earnings report to Robert Fitzpatrick who then sent it to Barry Minkow and used in his 2007 USANA Fraud Report does NOT make me an Accomplice in any kind of Scheme.


Now I have a question. Why would Scam.com allow an individual like Len, who tries to intimidate and threaten someone who is simply volunteering their time to advocate against fraud, be placed in a position to moderate a public forum, let alone be an Administrator!

- UsanaWatchDog


Then Sojustask's final response to me is this:
The rules do not retroactive back and you started that thread. It's rather ironic that it takes you 5 months to complain about it?


And my final response to Sojustask and Zachary is this: (May 27, 2010)
I was not aware that a formal complaint was required when several of the moderators were all aware of it going on. As for me starting a thread, that has nothing to do with it. It may be very difficult to follow the whole story, but the initial threat and intimidation toward me was made on the YOLI thread. After Len threatened to reveal so-called "devastating" information about who he thinks is me, Len would follow me around from thread to thread any time I would write anything. Just because one of the threads Len followed me into with this "OFF TOPIC" rant was a thread where I actually wanted to have a formal discussion with him regarding USANA, does not give him the right to do what he did.

As for rules not being retroactive, I find that remark incredible. So you must agree then that what Len did broke rules that are currently set. So then why would Zachary grant Len ADMINISTRATOR status?

Now Len is going around "Policing" the threads threatening to ban anyone who posts an OFF TOPIC comment. But it was okay for Len to do just that. Why the double standards?

Len's sole purpose to become administrator is to remove MLM critics who post damaging information about particular MLM companies, even if the damaging information is true. If you don't believe me, reveal these two posts that Len made on the Yahoo forum when he did just that. The postings have since been removed as has thousands of other postings, but the following two postings make it clear why.

POSTING 1
Date: 4-Sep-08 12:50 am
Subject: Contact Request

TO:

dryan_6007777
steveprescott743
Stkingweb
simply_alive

Please email me at MarketWave@cox.net with the best email address that I can contact you with.

Thanks.

Len

POSTING 2:
Date: 14-Sep-08 06:38 pm
Subject: Re: Term Lies on Coenen's Blog

"Len couldn't report the postings to Yahoo by himself, which is most likely why he needed others to help."

Yes, Len certainly can, all by himself. And had already been successfully doing so well before I obviously contacted others to assist me (take your Sherlock Holmes cap off now, term). What you obviously don't know is that we made a pact to never try to remove anti-Usana material simply because it was, well, anti-Usana. We agreed to report only those posts that contain either personal attacks (which wiped out virtually all of jp's and most of moe's and rroto's), or statements that were purely, verifiably fraudulent (like the products being made in China, or containing "deadly" levels of lead). There are still many negative posts towards Usana still here on this board. Heck, I can't think of a single one of emily's that has been removed (unless she got thrown out in the soiled jp bath water, like your charts did). She has a sly way of posing all of her anti-Usana propaganda as either opinions, assumptions, or hypothetical questions. That keeps her within her 1st Amendment rights to do so, thus her posts haven't been touched. Have they term? Care you rationalize your accusation against this fact?

"I've seen this game played before and I know how it works."

That's curious, term, considering no one on our side has pursued this tactic before. But I have accused emily and moe of doing this in that past. So, where have you seen this game played before, term?

Len


Now You might think I am just over reacting. Well, more than half of my postings were removed (I posted over 2000). Not only that, but Len blatantly lying in that posting when he wrote "or statements that were purely, verifiably fraudulent (like the products being made in China, or containing "deadly" levels of lead)."

USANA has some products made in China. USANA's Lip Balm is one example. USANA even had a manufacturing facility over there. As for the deadly levels of lead, USANA's product was tested at a FDA approved facility where it registered over the legal limit of Lead for the state of California. I could even show you the documents if this is something that you don't believe.

So you see, Len has a pattern here. He is not fit to moderate or Administrate a forum that discusses MLM scams. Sure, let him defend them all he wants, but to have him police what is written is absolutely ridiculous.

As for his blatant intimidation and threat toward me, I would like a personal response from Zachary as to why Len remains an Administrator.

- USANAWatchDog

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Mike! » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:54 pm

If anyone is interested, the whole site SCAM.COM has gone wonky. It's blocking out common words like "water", "power", "energy"from posts and the site address is coming up as an IP address only... Wonder if the new managment has anything to do with it?

getupnow

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby getupnow » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:07 pm

Glad to hear there will be an alternate website up within 2 weeks for those that want to participate in a real scambusting site.

USANA....any word back from Zachary yet?

USANAWatchDog

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby USANAWatchDog » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:46 pm

Getupnow,

No response from the owner of the forum who obviously gave Len plenty of time to convince him to become an Administrator.

getupnow

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby getupnow » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:55 pm

And why shouldn't he give Len plenty of time to convince him. After all Len is most likely one of his best monthly reorder customers on one or more of his other sites :)

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Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Gregg » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:34 pm

Just for what it's worth, this is what the resume of a REAL court approved expert witness looks like....

DECLARATION OF PROFESSOR JAMES E. BYRNE

I, Professor James E. Byrne, declare under penalty of perjury pursuant to 28 U.S.C. Section 1746:

I. INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT

1. I have been requested by counsel for the United States (hereafter “US”) to render my expert opinion in the above-styled litigation against Pathway to Prosperity Network or the P2P Network (hereafter “P2P”) in connection with the request for seizure of assets and other related relief. Specifically, I have been asked to opine regarding the character, nature, viability, and legitimacy of the transactions that are the subject of this action and any resemblance that they may have to fraudulent financial investments.

2. I understand that it is my duty to express my expert opinion independently of any influence or advocacy.

3. In rendering my opinion, I have examined the documents indicated in Exhibit A. My
opinion is subject to revision or amplification should further documentation or information be provided to me.

4. I have rendered my opinions in light of my experience, knowledge, research, and studies
in the field of commercial transactions, banking operations, financial and payment systems and instruments, and commercial fraud.

5. My Declaration is organized in the following manner:

I. Introduction (~ 1 to ~ 5)
II. Qualifications (~ 6 to ~ 13)
III. Summary of Opinions (~ 14)
IV. Explanation of Opinions (~ 15 to ~ 47)
A. The Transactions Reflected in the Materials (~15 to ~ 19)
B. The P2P Investment Compared to Legitimate Investment Opportunities
and Transactions (~ 20 to ~ 22)
C. High Yield or Multi Level Marketing Schemes (~ 23 to ~ 29)
D. Resemblance of the Transactions in the P2P Materials to High Yield
Features (~ 30 to ~ 47)
V. Conclusions (~48 to ~ 49)

II. QUALIFICATIONS

6. For more than 25 years, I have served or do serve in various positions of leadership and
responsibility in the field of international banking operations including:

* Chair and Reporter of the International Standby Practices Working Group (1994-1998) which drafted ISP98 (ICC Publication No. 590) and Secretary to the Council on International Standby Practices (lSP) (since 1998) which issues Official Comments on the ISP.
* Member of the Advisory Group to the International Chamber of Commerce (hereafter “ICC”) Task Force that drafted UCP600 (2003 – 2007).
* Member of the U.S. Delegation to the Commission on Banking Technique and Practice of the ICC (since 1995).
* Chair of the Group of Experts summoned to advise the Secretariat of the United Nations Commission on International Trade
Law (hereinafter “UNCITRAL”) on the adoption and implementation of the United Nations Convention on Independent Guarantees and Standby Letters of Credit (since 2001).
* Head of the U.S. Delegation to the UNCITRAL Working Group on International Contract Practices which drafted the United Nations Convention on Standby Letters of Credit and Independent Bank Guarantees (1988 – 1995).
* Past Chair of the American Bar Association’s Subcommittee on Letters of Credit (1996 – 2000); Vice Chair (1994 – 1996).
* Member o fthe following ICC Task Forces on the eUCP and the International Standard Banking Practice.
* Member of the US Delegation to the meetings of the Commission on Banking Technique and Practice of the ICC .
* Advisor to the US National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws Drafting Committee on the Revision of UCC Article 5 (1990 – 1995).
* Director of the Institute of International Banking Law & Practice (since 1987).
* Editor of Letter of Credit Update (1985 – 1997) and of Documentary Credit World (since 1997), monthly journals of letter of credit and bank guarantee law and practice including related commercial frauds.



it does go on, but I think this little snippet makes the point....
Supreme Commander of The Imperial Illuminati Air Force
Your concern is duly noted, filed, folded, stamped, sealed with wax and affixed with a thumbprint in red ink, forgotten, recalled, considered, reconsidered, appealed, denied and quietly ignored.

Lisa

Re: New Management at Scam.com

Postby Lisa » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:16 pm

USANAWatchDog wrote:Getupnow,

No response from the owner of the forum who obviously gave Len plenty of time to convince him to become an Administrator.


I don't think Zac owns the site anymore. Len became a moderator by calling a guy named Greg (from what sojustask told me). LM wasn't told about Len becoming a mod at all, and from everything she has said to me she doesn't really support the decision but unfortunately there's not a whole lot she can do about it.

She also did some digging on the "court approved expert" thing, and found that when someone becomes a court approved expert like Len did, it's only for that specific case as well. So while technically he is a court approved expert, that status is ONLY applicable to the cases which he was appointed as one.


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