Pottapaug1938 wrote: Pottapaug1938 wrote:Water, for most communities in Greater Boston, comes from the Quabbin Reservoir in western Massachusetts (my Facebook name comes from a mountain in one of the towns flooded in 1939-46 to create Quabbin). Had Quabbin not been built, AT GREAT TAXPAYER EXPENSE, we would be lucky to have water of dubious quality; and even that would have to be filtered and treated AT GREAT TAXPAYER EXPENSE. If we had no government-supplied water supplies, companies like Nestle would surely offer to supply what was needed -- at a rate ensuring a handsome profit for itself, high compensation for its executives and a sexy return on capital for shareholders.
Pigpot wrote:Excuse my ignorance. What am I paying my rates for and every other tax as well.
Previous citizens of Massachusetts paid to build Quabbin. My current water rates go towards getting the water to me and to making sure that it does not get dangerously polluted in the process.
As for "every other tax as well", consult your national and local budgets.
No sh*t, Sherlock! The Massachusetts government wanted Quabbin to be built because the people in Greater Boston needed the water which it would provide; and cities like Worcester were needing water from some of the other sources out that way. The enabling legislation was enacted by Representatives and Senators elected by their constituencies, and signed into a law by a Governor elected the same way. If you truly believe that all of the people who would get Quabbin water would have "payed [sic] for it voluntarily", and that there would be no one who would accept Quabbin water without paying their fair share, your naivete pegs the needle. That goes double if you believe that a private company could have brought about the necessary land takings, during the Great Depression, at a lesser cost than what the Commonwealth of Massachusetts paid.
Pigpot wrote:So for all the Government demands of taxation to pay for this and that if the people really wanted to have built it theywould have payed for it voluntarily. It's seems the Government wanted "Quabbin" to be built.
You really need a remedial course in the workings of representative government.
edited to restructure quotations -- AndyK
"So the people didn't want Quabbin to be built then. The Government wanted Quabbin to be built... Hang on Holmes I have an idea, but it's not a sh*t one like yours. What say, dare I mention old boy, that, what if... what if... the people of Greater Boston got together and employed companies who tendered for the most efficient bids in creating Quabbin. They could take the needless Government out of the equation and and thus it would most certainly have cost them less due to at the very least, Holmes my boy, not employing ridiculous bureaucrats who add absolutely no value to anything ever.
The companies that don't deliver on their contracts as per, they simply don't get paid until the do deliver but no more than than agreed sum. It's their loss if they can't keep to agreed sum. We can however come to a reasonable arrangement and work things through. The contract was made and it was their fault and they must remedy their mistakes. If disagreements came about then an independent arbitrator was already agreed upon before the signing of the contracts and was part of the contract itself. The arbitrator was agreed on from a pool of top class arbitrators. If he or she can't do the job Holmes then bally well sack the man or woman. The people of Greater Boston can find someone else.
This is the beauty of freedom of choice in every respect Holmes dear boy, we get what we want, NOT what we are given by a bureaucratic system that holds a monopolistic, 100% share on the power in our every day lives.
It's all the same Holmes dear boy. Privately competing firms doing the very best job possible Holmes is far more efficient than lazy Government officials, some with rolled up trouser legs taking huge amounts of dollars in brown paper bags, only joking about the last part Holmes, that is of course not true in any way, shape or form. Secret societies do [strike]not
exist Holmes and certainlynot
in the honourable elected government.
This proves there is no need for Government Holmes. No need at all. I'll still help the poor man out on the street. We can all volunteer Holmes and create jobs for these people. Start with soup kitchens and places of safety for them to sleep. What am I saying Holmes everywhere is more safe as communities are hiring their own private security forces now and have sacked the local Police force that was provided by the Government and look what happened to crime Holmes. It went down.
So Holmes, I'm glad you offered me the opportunity to put you straight on the lack of need for Government.
I say old boy... have you made that cup of char yet. Be a good old stick and put the kettle on, I'll have two digestives."
Boaz. It's a little like Shazam. It certainly meant a lot to Billy Batson.
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