Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

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Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:10 am

A former South Auckland finance company owner convicted of possessing a knife asked a District Court judge for damages of $11.5 million while being sentenced for the crime.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11502064

I suppose that's true if you call a payday loan company a "finance company", He has somewhat unusual collection methods;

Gavin Marsich, who owned the PayDay Loans money lending service, was found guilty at trial of possessing a knife in a public place, after he held a meat cleaver at his shoulder while telling a client she must repay her loan.


So why is he of interest to us?

Judge Glubb rejected Marsich's claim that the New Zealand jurisdiction didn't apply to him, and dismissed his claim for $11.5 million in damages.

He said the $11.5 million claim for damages was based on the notion he is a "Freeman of the Land" and the law did not apply to him. He said the damages were for defamation.


And that meat cleaver?

Marsich rejected the judge's decision that his home, where he operated PayDay Loans. was a public place. He said the meat cleaver was kept at his desk because he chopped meat at his desk, and he never threatened anyone with it.


It can happen to any busy multitasking executive. You're hacking away at a pig carcass on your desk while discussing the repayment terms on an overdue loan and the next thing you know you're in the slammer.

As far as the loans go that term is incorrect. His webpage denies that he makes anything as money-grubbing as loans. He doesn't run a finance company, he runs;

a Private Exclusive Club of Private Members that fund-raise as a hobby and grant assistance at a cost under a Personal Promise Agreement to people in need of the small necessities to cope with everyday living costs.


http://www.twentyfiftyclub.com/

Finance companies charge interest but not Gavin! His club makes grants out of the goodness of his heart to help bridge those financially awkward situations where you can't quite make it to the next paycheck. This is for family and friends. They only require a nominal repayment of 150% of the loan (Sorry! Grant, it's a grant!) amount every week.

SHORT TERM OF 1 WEEK ONLY
Request 20, Pay Back 30 Dollars
Request 30, Pay Back 45 Dollars
Request 40, Pay Back 60 Dollars
Request 50, Pay Back 75 Dollars

We DO NOT charge interest, instead we have a one-off weekly marketing KOHA.

Marketing KOHA from 10 TO 25 Dollars or (50% of the Grant amount).

Default or Dishonor Fee of 10 Dollars
Recovery Cost of 50 Dollars
Roll-Over of remaining balances


Sadly I don't qualify for this amazing deal. I don't meet the highlighted criteria;

Must be an Affiliate Referral Member
Must be over 18 years.
Must have 2 forms of Current Photo I.D
Must have a Tenancy Agreement
Must have a Current Bank Statement
Must have a Power or Phone Bill
Must have a Debit VISA Bank Card
Must have an Email Address
Must have income above 250 Dollars Nett (sic) after expenses a week

If you want to see this amazing fellow yourself here is a link to his videos;

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... N+MARSICH+

And links to some of his other websites;

http://www.gain2u.com/

http://www.mmtradehire.com

http://www.globalcabinsrus.com

http://www.cfiltd.info

http://www.radiosouthpacific.com

http://www.gain2unetwork.com

http://www.nzcong.com

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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby Dai Kiwi » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:38 am

Aww, you beat me to him.
(note to self - post faster)

Judge Kevin Glubb said at sentencing in Auckland District Court today that Marsich refused to participate in the trial, and the jury found the allegations made against him were established.
Marsich told the judge he had repeatedly requested to have a Native Assessor in court alongside him.
He said he refused the jury's findings because the jury was not of his peers, and asked for the case to be transferred to a marae.


Marsich is also being prosecuted by the Commerce Commission:

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/alleged-loan-shark-court-171896
http://www.comcom.govt.nz/the-commission/media-centre/media-releases/detail/2015/commerce-commission-prosecutes-twenty-fifty-club

24 April 2015
Twenty Fifty Club Ltd and its sole director Gavin John Marsich have today appeared in the Manukau District Court facing 17 charges in relation to its pay-day loans business.

The Commission began investigating Twenty Fifty Club in December 2013 after receiving a complaint from the public. The resulting 17 charges laid include:

* Failing to supply information required by the Commission under section 98 of the Commerce Act and section 47G of the Fair Trading Act
* Failing to disclose required information about the loans under the Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Act 2003
* Charging unreasonable default and establishment fees
* Purporting to contract out of the Credit (Repossession Act) 1997
* Falsely claiming to be a registered financial services provider and member of the Financial Services Complaints Limited dispute resolution scheme
* Illegally repossessing a debtor’s vehicle.

Commissioner Anna Rawlings said the charges laid against Twenty Fifty Club and Mr Marsich provide an example of lending practices targeting vulnerable consumers which concern the Commission.

“We are paying close attention to lenders in vulnerable communities and won’t hesitate to prosecute anyone we believe is charging unreasonable fees, misrepresenting debtors’ rights and attempting to circumvent their own legal obligations. Cases like this serve as a timely reminder for consumers to contact us if they have concerns about lenders.”

The case was adjourned for a trial callover on May 15 when a trial date will be set.

As this case is before the courts, the Commission is unable to comment further.


It appears the Cease & Desist notice with FUC he sent them back in 2014 didn't work:

http://first-thoughts.org/on/Consumer+Affairs/

02 Jan 2014 02:05

CEASE and DESIST Letter sent to the FMA. Dear David Pegg Re: Notice of Claim - Cease and Desist Twenty Fifty Club LTD - Private Club and Financial Markets Authority. Referring to my response to your inquiries that was sent on the 10th December 2013. As I have not received a rebuttal of my explanation with the current Statutes and Acts as a PRIVATE Person dealing with PRIVATE Contracts with PRIVATE People, I give NOTICE that ALL Inquiries into my PRIVATE WORK from the FMA, QFA, FSC, Commerce Commission, Consumer Affairs and IRD, CEASE and DESIST and that there will be NO Further Inquiry. I ask that if there is NO Further Inquiry into this matter in the next 72 Hours - This matter is FINAL. Kind Regards Gavin Marsich Custodian Twenty Fifty Club LTD



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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:01 am

Dai Kiwi wrote:Aww, you beat me to him.
(note to self - post faster)


The Western Cabal has its eye on the Antipodes.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby pigpot » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:28 am

Burnaby49 wrote:
Dai Kiwi wrote:Aww, you beat me to him.
(note to self - post faster)


The Western Cabal has its eye on the Antipodes.


With all respect "Burnaby49" this man seems to be open and transparent in his youtube dealings. What evidence (fact based empirical stuff) is there that can add to this man's professed (by some) guilt?
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby wserra » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:15 pm

pigpot wrote:What evidence (fact based empirical stuff) is there that can add to this man's professed (by some) guilt?


You mean other than his conviction following a jury trial?

You Stevens acolytes have a strange definition of "evidence". Jury verdicts, out; youtube videos, in.
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby Hyrion » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:50 pm

wserra wrote:Jury verdicts, out; youtube videos, in.

I think you hit on the core underlying rule the OPCA crowd wishes apply:

    Only evidence presented by the accused for the express purposes of the specific trial are admissable - nothing else is admissable!
That way they can deny everything, present what they want to "prove" their innocence and claim there's no evidence (even that evidence created by themselves in their own youtube videos) that applies to prove guilt so they are innocent. Of course, before you get to this point, you must first prove the Laws apply to them because the evidence (claim, really) they initially presented was that the Laws do not apply to them.

Too bad for them reality doesn't work that way.

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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby pigpot » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:04 am

wserra wrote:
pigpot wrote:What evidence (fact based empirical stuff) is there that can add to this man's professed (by some) guilt?


You mean other than his conviction following a jury trial?

You Stevens acolytes have a strange definition of "evidence". Jury verdicts, out; youtube videos, in.


No acolyte of Marc's that's for sure "Wes". :wink: Marc doesn't like swearing on his site (and I really enjoy it in all honestly as I think it's poetic) so I don't anymore but you could be correct in that I share much of what Marc's view points are.

I don't "see" countries or nations as there are no "real" borders. It's not even mythical at best. Someone draws a line on a physical map and calls the map a political one and I am supposed to agree. :haha: Oh! Dear....... :haha:

Anyway back to the thread. I could share a drink with "Wes" and "Burnaby49". I would interest them I think... I would be interesting them in me. No grammar police please. I may start using my own words and create new meanings from them. Like.... a donkey would be an orange and a car would become gravy... Hell I was beaten to it by you legal eagles... you created legalese. Sorry....... my error. :? :lol:
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby Dai Kiwi » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:45 am

pigpot wrote:Anyway back to the thread. I could share a drink with "Wes" and "Burnaby49". I would interest them I think... I would be interesting them in me. No grammar police please. I may start using my own words and create new meanings from them. Like.... a donkey would be an orange and a car would become gravy... Hell I was beaten to it by you legal eagles... you created legalese. Sorry....... my error. :? :lol:


I think you overestimate your interestingness.

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they're the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"

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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby pigpot » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:05 am

Dai Kiwi wrote:
pigpot wrote:Anyway back to the thread. I could share a drink with "Wes" and "Burnaby49". I would interest them I think... I would be interesting them in me. No grammar police please. I may start using my own words and create new meanings from them. Like.... a donkey would be an orange and a car would become gravy... Hell I was beaten to it by you legal eagles... you created legalese. Sorry....... my error. :? :lol:


I think you overestimate your interestingness.

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they're the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"


I think I realised your level of humour. A flat ZERO. I've known lots of people from all over the world and "Kiwi's" if there are such a thing a quite funny indeed but I've known some who (like others from various parts) are quite dour indeed.

You fall into that boring morass of those who have had the "charisma bypass" "Dai Kiwi"... Good god people like you are so boring. Honestly you make me want to go......... :|But I won't... I can't... I shall not be as boring as you. Even your avatar name is boring... Forget it, give it up, end your membership now... Roll down you trouser leg now and stop making silly hand gestures... :roll: :haha:
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Re: Gavin Marsich - KIWI Freeman & Usurious Payday Loan Lender

Postby Burnaby49 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:52 pm

I have some informal Pigpot rules, just basically a rough rule of thumb. If he makes a reasonably short but demented off topic comment (essentially all of his comments) I generally let it stand if he doesn't follow up with more. If he responds to a comment made about him (Looking at you Dai Kiwi) I let it stand if the interchange stops. If it turns into a quasi flame war or if Pigpot starts making multiple totally incomprehensible postings I move the lot, both Piggy and responders, over to the Pigpen. Things can continue there. On that basis I just moved some postings made here to the Pigpen and let others stand.

Perhaps harsh but Pigpot has shown a willingness to totally derail topics with multiple incomprehensible postings if not watched closely. Check out the Pigpen and decide for yourself if any of the posts I moved had any relevance to the discussions where they were originally made.
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