Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

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Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby Seelenblut » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:08 pm

41 year old Adrian Ursache, who was "Mister Germany" - most beautiful man in Germany - in 1998, was shot and injured by a SWAT member this morning (August 25th) when policemen tried to execute a foreclosure and Adrian, the founder of the "sovereign nation Ur", fired at the police.

Adrian, who follows the usual sovereign ideologies - like denying the existence of Germany, the legality of courts and police, taxes or banks - had created his own country, Ur, within the territory of his house and with all citizens being members of his family. He had also piled up debt of over 100.000 Euro, including unpaid loans, taxes, fees and fines - and complained bitterly that the bank didn't accept his promissory notes as payment. When his house was supposed to be foreclosed yesterday he managed to assemble a large crowd of Reichsbürger at his East-German home and prevent the execution of this order.

Today, while he was still barricaded in with around 15 of his friends, around 200 policemen, including members of an SEK ("Sonder Einsatz Kommando" - Special Operations Unit, basically SWAT), surrounded the "nation". When the police tried to clear out the place, stones were thrown at them and one officer was bitten ... Adrian Ursache himself was, according to a police spokesperson, brandishing a gun at SEK officers.

According to the police, both sides fired shots - it is unclear at this time who acted first - and Ursache was badly injured. He was transported of with a helicopter to the nearest hospital. The report states also that two policemen were lightly injured.

With the aggressiveness of German Reichsbürger constantly rising this was only a question of time ...

Some Links:

http://www.mz-web.de/burgenlandkreis/update--eskalation-im--reich-ur---schuesse-verletzen-polizisten-und-mister-germany-24644132
http://www.mz-web.de/burgenlandkreis/adrian-ursache-wie-aus-mister-germany-ein--staatsmann--wurde-24289536

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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:44 pm

Have you got a link with any updates, please? Also, I'm curious as to the role of the "civilian" character carrying the briefcase in the clip on the first page of one of the links. Is he a court official or bailiff type person?
I also presume the SEK are the last people you want knocking on your door/coming through your door?
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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby NYGman » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:54 pm

I am sure he expects Germany to pick up the cost of the helicopter and any medical treatment, or would have he preferred to remain at Ur and die from his wounds. although from your report, sounds like he may pass on anyway, achieving his goal of not having to personally pay the debt, although his estate may have to bear those costs
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Postby ArthurWankspittle » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:08 pm

NYGman wrote:I am sure he expects Germany to pick up the cost of the helicopter and any medical treatment, ...
I'm reasonably certain anywhere in Western Europe the state would provide the helicopter and hospital treatment for its citizens irrespective of circumstances.
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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby Forsyth » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:59 pm

NYGman wrote:I am sure he expects Germany to pick up the cost of the helicopter and any medical treatment, or would have he preferred to remain at Ur and die from his wounds. although from your report, sounds like he may pass on anyway, achieving his goal of not having to personally pay the debt, although his estate may have to bear those costs

In fairness, as he presumably didn't recognise the right of the state to shoot him, the idea that they would have an obligation to remedy the wrong visited upon him would probably be a consistent belief.

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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby NYGman » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:12 pm

ArthurWankspittle wrote:
NYGman wrote:I am sure he expects Germany to pick up the cost of the helicopter and any medical treatment, ...
I'm reasonably certain anywhere in Western Europe the state would provide the helicopter and hospital treatment for its citizens irrespective of circumstances.

Ah, but he lives in the state of Ur, which I am sure can not afford a helicopter for any of its citizens.
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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby Pottapaug1938 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:10 am

Every time I see the word "Reichsbürger", I picture a chain of hamburger restaurants (like McDonalds) where each staff member wears a Prussian blue tunic and has a pickelhaube on their head.
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Postby notorial dissent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:20 am

A very unhappy ending, but certainly shows what can happen when someone goes that far off the rails.
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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby grixit » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:13 am

Pottapaug1938 wrote:Every time I see the word "Reichsbürger", I picture a chain of hamburger restaurants (like McDonalds) where each staff member wears a Prussian blue tunic and has a pickelhaube on their head.


Yeah, but it gets a little tiresome because after each item you order, they shout "jawohl!" and click their heels.
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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby The Observer » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:28 pm

Pottapaug1938 wrote:Every time I see the word "Reichsbürger", I picture a chain of hamburger restaurants (like McDonalds) where each staff member wears a Prussian blue tunic and has a pickelhaube on their head.


We explored that concept here.
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Re: Germany - Reichsbürger badly injured in gunfight with police

Postby SteveUK » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:35 pm

Our old friends are back in the news



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37705054
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