Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
I don't have a copy. I believe it was in his Update 13, which he has wisely taken down from his website.
Does anyone have a copy?
Does anyone have a copy?
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
There are actually two threats that we know of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6z6bMmmpvE
Update 11 he threatens that the next time he sees a specific cop "he is going down", update 12 threatens to shoot the next cop that pulls him over.
I'm not sure how specific threats have to be to be considered actual jail-worthy threats in Canada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6z6bMmmpvE
Update 11 he threatens that the next time he sees a specific cop "he is going down", update 12 threatens to shoot the next cop that pulls him over.
I'm not sure how specific threats have to be to be considered actual jail-worthy threats in Canada.
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Sorry, It was Update 11.
See the bold highlighted passages below [my emphasis]:
See the bold highlighted passages below [my emphasis]:
Hilfskreuzer Möwe wrote:Dean & Co. have posted and then deleted "Update 11 From Dean Himself".
It was originally at this URL (http://deanclifford.info/2014/05/28/update-11-dean/).
I recovered the text via Google's caching function:
Where-ever does one even start?2014 05 28 – Dean Clifford – update number 11
These notes were taken from the update with the best of my ability, E&OE, Errors and Omissions Expected:
• PPSA commercial liens are being put or soon going to be put on several property titles which includes RCMP stations and courthouses.
• Each one of these have been put on something called a collateral schedule amongst other things.
• Regarding Dean’s trust account, he has served the government and bank of Canada and AG proper notice that they will no longer be their bank on his behalf and Dean is going to act as his own Bank which he will probably explain to everyone more in detail when he gets out.
• Transcripts have been ordered, especially the bail hearing that was on around March 25th and the motions that were heard last week. Appeals have been filed also which should be heard next week.
• In the appeals court, Dean’s common law rights can be heard and acknowledged which will be much harder for them to f*#k him over.
• Got the names of every judge from day one which will be added as debtors to the claims, PPSA’s and commercial liens that are about to be filed.
• As soon as the PPSA’s have been submitted and processed, the output will be attached to commercial liens that are being prepared.
• This will be severed on the bar association, the lawyers, the courts, on the bank of Canada, everybody is getting f*#king lien’ed.
• Someone new has been brought into the fold to assist Dean with writing documents and preparing filings as well as Dean now having access to a computer.
• More has been done over 10 days that has been done over 6 months, things are moving forward nicely.
• But more help is still needed as there isn’t enough people to get everything done that needs to be in order to execute the coming barrage that is planned.
• Dean’s situation with his closed/frozen bank accounts are being sorted out and authority is being handed over to sign and manage that for him which should alleviated some stresses and inconveniences in terms of paying bills and getting things done.
• Dean’s new helper friend could do with laptop and internet switched back on at his home so things can get done.
• Pertinent documents are making their way to the proper parties that are integral to Dean’s future claims which he hasn’t been able to access for a while now. It wasn’t wise to send the originals after a new quality microphone and audio box for Darren being returned to sender last week and at the powers that be intercepting them.
• Copies are or to be certified.
• There was also documents that identify the titles for the legislative building in which Dean plans to lien the f*#k out of also. So much prior research and homework has been done well before him being taken.
• Brandon Correctional Centre is also owned by HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN just to let you know.
• The court buildings, all 5 titles, are also owned by HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN.
• The Winnipeg city police station and public safety building are also owned by HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN.
• “she” is the debtor in all of these claims. Dean thinks the best way to go after her bonding is to go after the legal entity HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN as represented by, some may disagree.
• Dean is looking to refer to some other sample filings to compare to his drafts to perfect his form with his approach to things before they are executed.
• Darren, Dean’s brother has been speaking to Kevin Annett about a few things in regards to recent happenings with his actions against HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN and the CROWN CORPORATION in regards to crimes against sovereign inhabitants that have been exposed.
• Dean and Kevin hope to compare notes and documents over the coming weeks.
• In a documents / notices that were severed on the register and vital statistics, he notify them when he goes after the Bank of Canada, he will not be relying on the court of Queen’s Bench Supreme Court, It is his will and intend to convene a Grand Jury and find 24 sovereign people of this land and have them appoint a judge of their choosing and we will be holding a common law court and will be convicting HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN.
• 24 man Grand Jury is the highest form of law that there is on this planet.
• If they do not give everything back and compensate Dean there is a 24 manned Grand Jury that is going to get convened.
• Be good to clarify if the appointed judge makes the 24th or not as many say there are 23 in a Grand Jury or maybe that is the governments was to mislead people and 24 actually need to form a real Grand Jury are needed.
• And many figure heads are welcomed to be involved from all over. This can be made as an example, organised, template and executed at places all over the world HER MAJESTY has her teeth into.
• Grand jury investigations are secret, and evidence isn’t made public until there is an indictment.
• It is suspected that the powers that be are planning a false flag event. So trends in the news indicate an IMMENIENT FALSE FLAG EVENT could very well be on the cards.
• In the mainstream news, a rifileshooting range has been broken into twice and the RCMP is now being trained in case of a shootout with training videos on what to do. This indicates that they are preparing the public that there is an event going to happen.
• Dean hopes someone is going to be doing a radio show about that so it can be called in advance.
• They had to go to the extent to pulling the plug on this one which was so predictable.
• Dean thinks they intentionally did video so they could make the audio disappear, similar to what they did with his nabbing February 2013 last year with the tussle with the cop in the parking lot who lost the plot.
• There was a property secured last year that was planned for the first instalment of the land stewardship project out in British Colombia. A down payment was made from the funds raised from the seminar but things took a turn since Dean hasn’t been able to work and his situation has made him into the posterboy for the FREEMAN movement. FREEMAN being a term made up by the Government made up to pigeonhole people who just want to learn the law, enforce their rights and who are sick of being raped, oppressed and taken advantage of by their servants.
• Fortunately, the next instalment that was due has been extended. Plans should be written and disclosed soon on this.
• In response to some important documents being filed in the courts, the Notaries’ officers are being harassed from the Crown attorney’s office in Winnipeg.
• Where agents from the Crown attorney’s office are grilling them for information and giving them grief over the phone.
• At least 2 Notaries have affirmed that agents from the Crown attorney’s office have “advised” in an intimidating fashion that they should probably stop notarising Dean’s documents. Both Notaries have told them to f*#k off.
• A law suit was attempted to be served last week at the Crown attorney’s office that entailed obstruction of justice and intimidation but the names of these agents couldn’t be ascertained but the women at the desk flipped out and then refused service.
• Recommendations were relayed of what David Lindsay said the list of charges shouldn’t be too long, keeping them down, Dean pointed out the same charge can be grouped into counts.
• Dean said he is perusing both civil and criminal charges against HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN.
• It is the duty of Queens Bench civil court to convert any elements from any civil claim into corresponding criminal charges and order the prosecution of them which there is case law on this according to Dean’s friend Allen.
• Dean is uncertain about the form of laying out these charges though, so he is just using a standard QB criminal application same way he was doing to have his charges discharged.
• The biggest mistake he has made so far is that he already had made an application for a warrant to arrest all those who have committed crimes against him, he actually stood down on those matters because he only wanted to address the discharging of the federal criminal charges and his release that day. The minute he did that, he removed any standing he had in the court for taking out his claim of injury.
• Dean says now he has standing in Queens Bench going forward.
• There was an instance where a hearing Dean was ready with everything in check and instead they patched him through from Brandon CC via video linkup where essentially they wouldn’t let him speak at all. This was in provincial court they did this to him.
• Turns out they were talking over him and even in the room he was patched through on. He ended up telling whom was talking over him while he was trying to read out onto the record an affidavit they refused to accept.
• The judge also kept interrupting him trying to deny him from speaking at all. Dean’s response was “Excuse me, Servant! Keep your mouth shut while I’m reading. I’m speaking, I’m the master here and you’re the servant and you be quiet while I am talking, Do you understand?” in response, the judge said, “Well well… I’m the administrator here.” And Dean replied “I don’t give a f*#king sh^t because I’m the executor and I outrank you. Keep your mouth shut!!!”
• Witnesses in the court room, friends and family of Dean’s were there which Dean was patched through and they saw them all scrambling trying to cut the audio from the feed from Brandon CC. It was f*#king hilarious where a bunch of dumb c*nts were running around saying “How we turn it off, how we turn it off”. All while Dean was reading out some rather profound stuff.
• It took them like 5 minutes to turn the audio off, so it will be good to know if anything of what Dean said made it onto the transcripts.
• Supposably there was like 12 sheriffs in the provincial court room waiting all day for Dean’s hearing in this instance where wasn’t even in the room and it started at like 4pm.
• The judge claimed he didn’t understand anything at all but would not specify exactly what in which Dean was happy to clarify. It was obvious the judge didn’t want to understand even if he could or wanted to.
• This was because in a lower statutory court, the judge could not hear his common law arguments.
• It is expected Dean may get out next Thursday at the applet level court. So a bail review at a upper level at QB will be heard next week so might have some good news them.
• Others have gotten out at appeals court where it was mentioned that the issue of financing and damages for being in jail all the time. It seems a question they do not want to answer.
• Upon Dean’s release, all the PPSA’s will be in place, and the courts, judges, cps attorney’s, rcmp officers, jp, ought to be served and commercial liens in place against them ready to go.
• He hopes to already have the bonds frozen for the crowns, at that point they ought to be a whole lot less excited to go after him any further at that point.
• At another hearing that happened recently where the judge wanted to speak to Dean after a hearing, but the sheriffs disobeyed that order in QB. They wouldn’t even allow Dean to file any paperwork himself also. Turns out, the same sheriff that roughhoused Dean pulling him to the van, was directly sitting behind a friend / witness in the court recently started poking her quite hard in the back quit hard telling her to “GET UP, GET UP” when the judge was asking everyone to rise. Such an action would provoke a verbose reaction in anyone, but knowing what circumstances one was under and the importance of being there, the ideal response was refrained from. Dean has declared “that f*#ker is going down” and saying this sheriff just assaulted her. Which brings to question, are these sheriff’s actual lawfully appointed sheriffs or are they just nothing more than mall cops with an extra shiny talisman and a gun? Something to research into there. Maybe Dean can go put criminal charges on him and lien his house. Might make things difficult with his bank when this sheriff can’t afford the mortgage repayments after losing his job. Might be a good process against agents such as this one to template.
• Anyone going to the next hearing needs to get his badge number and his photo if they can.
• In all the transcripts in the provincial court, even though the lower statutory courts cannot hear common law arguments, things later on can be taken to higher court of inherit jurisdiction and have those convictions over turned in a heartbeat.
• The moment you deny to be the trustee in these lower magistrate statutory kangaroo courts, the card they always play is that “Well Mr. Such’n’Such, I’m issuing a warrant for him”.
• Dean says he would announce himself as the man but not one that acts a class of person that has rights and duties conferred by HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN and is not a subject thereof and is not a trustee or anything else within her ranks.
• Being coursed and subdued into submission can be taken as under duress and deal with the damages later on can be a good angle to take things on.
• It would be good to get the Pdf of the David’s book to get to Dean, he has a computer in Brandon CC now.
• We will need to do a fundraiser soon to help those who are helping which one girl spent $1500 of her own money on filings, transcripts, getting copies of titles, driving around and time spent not working due to this.
• Collect call bill to Darren, Dean’s brother was $1200
• Dean’s construction business has completely gone under as a result of this.
• More exclusive updates and Q&A’s are going to be released on the forum going forward this week.
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
This is a new level of insanity.
Dean is actually denying saying those threats despite them being on tape and on YouTube uploaded to his own channel.
I honestly am astonished.
Dean is actually denying saying those threats despite them being on tape and on YouTube uploaded to his own channel.
I honestly am astonished.
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
Thank you very much for producing that list of his, er, friendly, lawful and oh so peaceful remarks!
Looks like he's planning some paper terrorism or harassment at least. How does Canadian law handle such actions?
Looks like he's planning some paper terrorism or harassment at least. How does Canadian law handle such actions?
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Ironically paper terrorism doesn't appear to be a statutory crime like it is in the states but it is a common-law crime thanks to the Meads and Fearn decisions, but I don't think we've seen anyone busted for that yet.
And as far as we know, there's no indication that they're going after him for any of the liens and stuff he's filed.
And as far as we know, there's no indication that they're going after him for any of the liens and stuff he's filed.
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
As it is, Deans own anger seems to get well in front of him. That being, he claims to not have made these threats.. but if you've listened to the phone calls, read the docs etc.. you know he has. Could it be he was in some sort of mental state.. With the filing of leans etc against the queen, court etc etc .. I don't think any of it has actually been filed as he probably hasn't been able to get a notary to sign them. .. if he even actually did any of them up. If he has filed them, while paper terrorism is not allowed (falls under vexatious litigation and can be slipped into fraud) generally Canadian courts sort of just brush them off. However there have been some actions taken by the courts to cover costs incurred. In Deans case, it wouldn't matter as the guy has no money.. can't get blood from a stone.
Side Note - Paul Fiola has been meandering around the Edmonton area claiming that he beat the courts.. (he didn't, was convicted, and did his time served) and is rattling off about how they are gonna take the C3PO and other Menardian ideas to the lands they purchased (got suckered into and stolen from.. allodial land titles are pure fraud)
Side Note - Paul Fiola has been meandering around the Edmonton area claiming that he beat the courts.. (he didn't, was convicted, and did his time served) and is rattling off about how they are gonna take the C3PO and other Menardian ideas to the lands they purchased (got suckered into and stolen from.. allodial land titles are pure fraud)
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I believe he really did file the liens and in addition to the new ones he had some older ones from some of his earlier arrests.
The wife is footing the bills so far, so he can keep racking up jail time and fines until she and whoever else is financing his shenanigans cuts him off.In Deans case, it wouldn't matter as the guy has no money
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Jeffrey wrote:This is a new level of insanity.
Dean is actually denying saying those threats despite them being on tape and on YouTube uploaded to his own channel.
I honestly am astonished.
It gets more amazing when Dean's brother, Darren, says he has a recording of the threats Dean says he never uttered.
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
Is there no news on this? Has he not un-leased the deluge of magic words to free himself?
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We playing the waiting game
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It seems that several hours ago the Dean mouthpiece over at Free Dean Clifford https://www.facebook.com/freedeanclifford was yet again making the claim that some of Dean's charges have been withdrawn.
See the following cut and paste from the FB page which was originally made in reply to Clifford debunker, Herbert Ariel:
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Free Dean Clifford Are you retarded? You write that to me on a day when we witness another withdrawal of charges in court today because "insufficient evidence exists" when asked by what authority do you have to bring this charge against the accused?
Either get a brain or stop posting on here. No one can write a rule on a piece of paper and claim it applies to anyone but themselves. You don't actually believe the legislature has authority over anything but themselves do you? If you do then you need to do a lot more reading before giving bogus opinions.
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The last time I checked Dean was still on the hook for a myriad of charges and was still in the pokey.
See the following cut and paste from the FB page which was originally made in reply to Clifford debunker, Herbert Ariel:
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Free Dean Clifford Are you retarded? You write that to me on a day when we witness another withdrawal of charges in court today because "insufficient evidence exists" when asked by what authority do you have to bring this charge against the accused?
Either get a brain or stop posting on here. No one can write a rule on a piece of paper and claim it applies to anyone but themselves. You don't actually believe the legislature has authority over anything but themselves do you? If you do then you need to do a lot more reading before giving bogus opinions.
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The last time I checked Dean was still on the hook for a myriad of charges and was still in the pokey.
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
I would like to propose that Quatloos send an official Quatloos post card to Dean in prison - full of our good wishes and thanks for his comedy routine and hope for his future success in his entertainment endeavors in the future.
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Your are a truly evil and awful person, not to be confused with an individual I knew we kept you for a good reason.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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It turns out that the Free Dean Clifford mouthpiece is Rob Smith.arayder wrote:It seems that several hours ago the Dean mouthpiece over at Free Dean Clifford https://www.facebook.com/freedeanclifford was yet again making the claim that some of Dean's charges have been withdrawn.
See the following cut and paste from the FB page which was originally made in reply to Clifford debunker, Herbert Ariel:
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Free Dean Clifford Are you retarded? You write that to me on a day when we witness another withdrawal of charges in court today because "insufficient evidence exists" when asked by what authority do you have to bring this charge against the accused?
Either get a brain or stop posting on here. No one can write a rule on a piece of paper and claim it applies to anyone but themselves. You don't actually believe the legislature has authority over anything but themselves do you? If you do then you need to do a lot more reading before giving bogus opinions.
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The last time I checked Dean was still on the hook for a myriad of charges and was still in the pokey.
Later on in the conversation Ariel asks Smith to document that Dean's had charges dropped and Rob says he's not really talking about Dean's case, but some other case, which he won't document either, for some reason having to do with what he calls Herb's "psycho handlers"
It seems denial and thinly veiled lies are the norm in Dean World.
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
Happy Anniversary Dean! And many more in the future!
It is now a year since the Deanster was tossed in jail on bogus trumped-up charges that the Crown is clearly afraid to bring out in open court. And Dean, true to his beliefs, has fought relentlessly to stay in jail rather than accept bail on the oppressor's terms.
Dean has given us all an anniversary present!
http://deanclifford.info/2014/11/24/happy-anniversary/
Other well-wishers post their best wishes on Dean's anniversary;
https://www.facebook.com/anastasia.glin ... 6278716269
Although I think comparing him to Nelson Mandela is just a bit of a stretch. However it is unlikely we'll have a second anniversary announcement. Now that The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State is on Dean's case his release must be imminent. The Canadian government is in over its head when it incited the wrath of Kevin Annett.
It is now a year since the Deanster was tossed in jail on bogus trumped-up charges that the Crown is clearly afraid to bring out in open court. And Dean, true to his beliefs, has fought relentlessly to stay in jail rather than accept bail on the oppressor's terms.
Dean has given us all an anniversary present!
http://deanclifford.info/2014/11/24/happy-anniversary/
Other well-wishers post their best wishes on Dean's anniversary;
https://www.facebook.com/anastasia.glin ... 6278716269
Although I think comparing him to Nelson Mandela is just a bit of a stretch. However it is unlikely we'll have a second anniversary announcement. Now that The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State is on Dean's case his release must be imminent. The Canadian government is in over its head when it incited the wrath of Kevin Annett.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
At 10:45 of his Victoria Seminar 2013 – Part 1 (the first attached video) Dean repeats the now well exposed lie that he had all the charges resulting from his 2013 reckless driving and cop assault incidents dismissed.Burnaby49 wrote:Happy Anniversary Dean! And many more in the future!
It is now a year since the Deanster was tossed in jail on bogus trumped-up charges that the Crown is clearly afraid to bring out in open court. And Dean, true to his beliefs, has fought relentlessly to stay in jail rather than accept bail on the oppressor's terms.
Dean has given us all an anniversary present!
http://deanclifford.info/2014/11/24/happy-anniversary/
The my-magic-freeman-wand-defeated-the-courts fantasy has become the standard tale in the Dean cult. Anyone who repeats the claim is accepted by the cult members and anyone who questions the absurd assertion is immediately shunned.
These sort of unbelievable tall tales date back to Robert Menard's stories about waving off traffic cops attempting to give tickets. At least Menard had the sense to make up stories about "street victories" that couldn't be positively documented as untrue.
The freeman story telling ante was upped when Keith "Kate" Thompson posted a video of his courtroom antics edited to make it seem he dismissed the judge who later found him guilty of illegal parking. After Keith became a celebrity in freeman world Dean couldn't let it pass that he'd merely lectured a traffic cop. Dean had to be known as the guy who "throws cops around" and instantaneously has all charges against him dismissed.
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Christmas came early gentlemen. Our friends at anti-racist obtained e-mails between Bill Noble and Dean Clifford. Quite a treasure trove of insights into the inner machinations of White Supremacists / SovCits.
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... mails.html
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... mails.html
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Re: Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
Can't say I think much of the size of the images. I had to magnify to about 200% to read them.Jeffrey wrote:Christmas came early gentlemen. Our friends at anti-racist obtained e-mails between Bill Noble and Dean Clifford. Quite a treasure trove of insights into the inner machinations of White Supremacists / SovCits.
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... mails.html
Are all SovCits white supremacists?
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In Dean's case I think it is a function of hate, maybe even self hate. It's like poison.Arthur Rubin wrote:Can't say I think much of the size of the images. I had to magnify to about 200% to read them.Jeffrey wrote:Christmas came early gentlemen. Our friends at anti-racist obtained e-mails between Bill Noble and Dean Clifford. Quite a treasure trove of insights into the inner machinations of White Supremacists / SovCits.
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/20 ... mails.html
Are all SovCits white supremacists?
I have listened to a few of Dean's lectures all the way through. The tapes include some of the chatter on the side. Every trouble in the world, according to him, is attributable to the hateful powers that be. And according to him every piece of processed beef, every genetically modified seed, every preservitve laden apple, every stop sign, every cop, every law is a personal insult.
Despite all his so called teaching Dean doesn't tell anyone how to find and eat unprocessed food or avoid getting in the way of the traffic cop.
I think down deep Dean knows if does there'll be no one to hate, on one to blame.