Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Tuba Cain » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:56 pm

Seems like a pleasant, even minded sort of a chap.

ETA: why is he wandering around giving $20 bills to kids? Seems like an odd way to make money; or, is this how one makes "alternative profits"?
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby coffeekitten » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:47 pm

"Now free to attend." "Email questions ($250-$2000 plus per email)" Wow! That's what he calls free! I'm wondering how he decides it's a $250 or a $2000 question.

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Burnaby49 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:38 pm

Been a while since we've heard from Marcel. Lurking around lemonade stands is a weird direction for him to take although it was pretty certain that any direction he took would be weird. Just didn't expect children's lemonade stand weird.
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby The Observer » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:35 pm

Burnaby49 wrote:Just didn't expect children's lemonade stand weird.


But of course. You surely recognize that lemonade stands are the last line of freedom for the sovrun man. Once the government gets their claws into the childrens' stands, it's game over.
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Chaos » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:24 am

kinda seeing why most sovruns have cps issues

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:39 am

Chaos wrote:kinda seeing why most sovruns have cps issues
Felony possession of a firearm and previous interactions with CPS are "de rigueur".
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:41 am

Marcel's just a peace loving innocent wanting to spread happiness and good feelings. At least we get a picture of him;

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/lemonade-man-speaks-out-winnipeg-1.4073154
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby coffeekitten » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:45 pm

He even has a cat. How sweet! He just wants kids to pursue their dreams and become entrepreneurs who don't pay their taxes. :sarcastic:

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby NYGman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:40 pm

coffeekitten wrote:He even has a cat. How sweet! He just wants kids to pursue their dreams and become entrepreneurs who don't pay their taxes. :sarcastic:

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Philistine » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:20 pm

Sometimes, they're just kind of evil...more of a joke really.

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby NYGman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:05 pm

Hmmm. Three Bald men with Cats on their lap, wonder what else they may have in common :haha:
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby notorial dissent » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:36 pm

You mean besides the general creep factor???
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Tuba Cain » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:19 pm

So, goofball gives a bunch of kids money in what I'm going to assume was a ploy for attention. A successful one, at that.

Problem is, now the cops would like a word. We all know how well folks of this ilk get along with law enforcement.

Anyone want to give odds on whether he can turn this whole situation into actual jail time?
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby notorial dissent » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:32 pm

I know it may be unPC or whatever of me and all, but if some strange, and strange looking, man gave my kids money, a lot of money from the sounds of it, I would be more than just a little concerned and suspicious, and I would probably have called the cops as well.
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby NYGman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:54 pm

Didn't I hear a pink Beaver say something about Canada taking very seriously, the promotion of de-taxing programs. Is Mr. Bessette coming closer here with this hanging out of cards, and the publicity of this article? I wasn't too say this course of action is beset with danger, but I won't.
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:38 pm

To start, the De-Taxers are dead. This was a cough, cough, movement in the 90's and early 2000s trying to find ways to avoid paying tax through inventive interpretation of the Income Tax Act and other legislation. They actually cooperated with each other. They had a website that served as a central clearing house for news and the discussion of ideas. They'd post their ideas, current projects, and failures there and they were candid about it. They'd analyzed why they failed but when something didn't work they moved on. When it became obvious that the CRA was aggressively targeting them and that they'd run out of ideas in any case most moved on.

What they were promoting was not tax evasion but tax avoidance. As a very generalized description evasion is where you hide your income from the CRA and avoidance is where you declare your income but try various schemes to avoid paying tax on it. The Poriskyites hid (or at least deliberately did not declare) their income which made it evasion.

So while we have, and will always have, tax gurus like Porisky or others flogging miracle ways to avoid tax they aren't De-Taxers, just opportunists with ideas for sale.

As far as Bessette goes he seems to be trying to promote way more than just tax schemes;

- You will now claim personal rights in law & legality so you can use both at once.

- You now get you or anyone, out of any legal debt you wish.

- You now use privacy so no strangers, including government, know what assets you have,
where you live, what you make.

- You now earn a non-taxable living. No More Income Tax.

- You will now be able to charge people money who violate you.

- You know to lien property on those who owe you money.

- You know to reserve All Rights in contracts in or out of legal system.

- You know how money, law, rights & healthy community work.

- You know how to prove fraud or validity in any contract.

- You know how to use banking administrative process, to defuse all legal debt.

- You gain access to The Unincorporated Economy. Visit website link for full details.


https://www.allrightsreserveduniversity.org/

However I doubt the CRA is paying a lot of attention. He's obviously just a loner on the fringes without any paid following. Porisky got stomped for two reasons, he promoted evasion rather than avoidance, and he'd built up a large, cross-Canada, formal, organized scheme with hundreds of paying customers. Bessette's just a loser with a website.
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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby NYGman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:01 pm

Burnaby49 wrote:Bessette's just a loser with a website and a cat, so based on that, he will undoubtedly succeed in his evil plan to talk over Canada.


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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:37 pm

NYGman wrote:
Burnaby49 wrote:Bessette's just a loser with a website and a cat, so based on that, he will undoubtedly succeed in his evil plan to talk over Canada.


FIFY


Look, there are rules that have to be followed when you try to take over a country using a cat, even a small informal country like Canada. We're not cutting aspiring dictators any slack on this. If they want to take us over they have to do it right, we're worth at least a minimal effort. First off NO SMILING! AND A WHITE CAT! Mottled black and white cats don't get the job done. AND WEAR A GREY NEHRU JACKET! That's mandatory. Some goofy brown T-shirt and cutoffs just scream disinterest.

A throne-like chair isn't absolutely necessary but goes a long way towards showing the seriousness of your intent. It also helps to display yourself in a formal setting; it's not just chance that the examples shown are in large windowless rooms. So what's the best that Bessette has to offer? A spare bedroom (might even be his actual bedroom), a backyard view through a window, and a game he's playing displayed on his computer screen. Overall a shabby pathetic effort that's just an insult to Canadians. We deserve better than this. If you can't terrorize us don't bother wasting our time.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby arayder » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:24 pm

This is doing it right.

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Re: Marcel Bessette - The Peace Maker Society

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:27 pm

An alternate approach but it works. Make Canada an offer we can't refuse.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs


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