The S.S. World Freeman Society is listing, badly...

[arayder]

Frankly, I regret the closing of the World Freeman Society webpage. . . . .we have lost a valuable research resource.

. . . One of the reasons I participate on Quatloos is to help establish that historical record. . .
SMS Möwe

His shunning by freemen and the subsequent of closure of his WFS site is about as close to accountability Bobby Menard is ever going to get in the freeman subculture.

The irony is that, as you allude, Möwe, without any record of his failures Menard will feel free to try to explain away the failed freeman valley, why the A4V, 96 fix and ACCP never produced diddlie squat, the C3PO debacle and his freeman bankrolled legal actions that never happened.

Neither will Menard feel the need to account for one dime contributed to any of these "projects".

Folks being asked to put their hard earned cash behind the ninja goat need to ask ole Bobby what happened to the money contributed to his follies over the last decade.

[Jeffrey]

Pigpot has issued some sort of challenge to us over at WFS:

https://worldfreemansociety.org/forum/4 ... 2-quatloos

I can't say I speak for the board but here's my personal response:

1. I get a security warning when trying to visit your page so I have stopped browsing the forums there.

2. We've had previous instances of heading there to respond to requests for discussion only to be told that our IP's were being logged and attempts at getting our personal location and identities were being made.

3. Any attempt at a discussion leads to getting banned. As you can verify on the forums of your site, I myself was banned for responding to questions from people there.

We've dealt with Marc Stevens previously, you can look up the thread on him here. The guy is a joke and his theories are ridiculous.

I will not go post on WFS and I'd advise the rest of the posters on Quatloos to avoid it simply because the invitations for debate are never genuine and there are legitimate security concerns involved with posting on WFS.

[rumpelstilzchen]

1. I get a security warning when trying to visit your page so I have stopped browsing the forums there.

I have recently started to get the same warning.

2. We've had previous instances of heading there to respond to requests for discussion only to be told that our IP's were being logged and attempts at getting our personal location and identities were being made.

Correct. Honourable lot aren't they.

3. Any attempt at a discussion leads to getting banned. As you can verify on the forums of your site, I myself was banned for responding to questions from people there.

I think I made five posts on there using a different username and Menard himself said he was banning me because he believed I was the poster "number 6" from Icke's. So he banned me not for what I wrote on the WFS but because of who he thought I might be.

[notorial dissent]

1. I get a security warning when trying to visit your page so I have stopped browsing the forums there.

Heh??????!!!!
I'm using one of the crankier security suites out there, and haven't had so much as a chirp, also tried it the hard way, and the site comes up with a verified rating.

2. We've had previous instances of heading there to respond to requests for discussion only to be told that our IP's were being logged and attempts at getting our personal location and identities were being made.

Again, HEH???? Any website forum you visit will collect your IP, I don't know of any of them that don't. That is as far as it usually goes, and an IP isn't going to tell anyone much other than the general area where you are located. My IP shows me in a location I have perhaps been to once or twice in my life and where I certainly don't live, let alone isn't even remotely close to where I live.

3. Any attempt at a discussion leads to getting banned. As you can verify on the forums of your site, I myself was banned for responding to questions from people there.

Projecting a bit methinks, since to date, I believe the total of people banned from this site has been all of three.

So, I think someone is doing the old FOTL make up an excuse tap dance, or else has us confused with their favorite porn site, which I'd come closer to believing.

Ninja certainly doesn't seem to be having any problems posting and certainly hasn't been banned, so try again boys and come up with a better excuse next time.

[Jeffrey]

No I said the stuff in the list, I didn't quote the challenge.

[JamesVincent]

Pigpot has issued some sort of challenge to us over at WFS:

https://worldfreemansociety.org/forum/4 ... 2-quatloos

I can't say I speak for the board but here's my personal response:

1. I get a security warning when trying to visit your page so I have stopped browsing the forums there.

Last time I went there I got an alert saying that their security certificate had expired back in June, I believe. I don't play on sites that either don't care about little things like that or can't afford to keep up on their security. Never know what else they don't care about, kinda like the people getting viruses from Orly's site.

As far as debating there, why would we? We've shown that anyone can come here and debate as long as they follow the rules, even somewhat. The fact that DMVP and others were here for so long and the fact that BMX ninja came here just to debate us proves that it can be and is done pretty regularly. Even some of their heroes have been here and tried to debate. And, like has been pointed out before multiple, multiple times, since they are the ones making statements, it is up to them to prove them, not up to us to disprove them. So, if they want to debate, let them come here and do it.

[arayder]

Why doesn't Pigpot come over there, register and have the discussion he seems so intent on having?

His personal info is safe here and as long as he follows the simple rules of the forum he's welcome to stay.

The WFS forum is no longer secure, so having the talk there is not an option.

So what's the problem?

[Jeffrey]

Courtesy of Pigpot:

I've said I'll come over and play in your sand pit or you can play over here if you want... I also issued the challenge over at Marc's site for you to come and play but you WON'T will you because you know YOU and ALL of your shit will be exposed as FUCKING LIES.

Look you're free to register here and post your questions.

As to Marc Stevens, for your convenience here are links to our threads discussing him, his theories and failures:

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=6950
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10149&hilit=marc+stevens
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=6768

[wserra]

Why doesn't Pigpot come over there, register and have the discussion he seems so intent on having?

He/she/it actually did, and became a member of Q over 24 hours before your post - Tuesday at 8:13 AM, to be exact.

Maybe not so "intent".

I posted on Stevens' forum at some length, and most of my exchanges were with Stevens. Anyone can read them and evaluate for himself or herself. And since that I appear to have become unregistered.

[wserra]

I see the guy is still complaining about us:

One of the shills has seemingly deemed me to be a threat and -1'd me. Disinformation agent stuff. Or maybe it's not... Maybe it's a regular poster that pissed of with my "bad" language. I couldn't care two fucks but what I don know is that no-one has had the fucking balls to face what I have to say.

I tried to post to the thread there to show potpig the following line from the admin log

Demosthenes [redact IP] Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:13 am User activated » pigpot

but find that I really am no longer registered there. Upon trying to reregister, I get this:

Sorry but you cannot register at this time because the administrator has disabled new account registrations

And yet I see at least one user who registered as recently as two days ago. So who is blocked from posting where?

[wserra]

And, of course, as webhick posted two months ago:

I should also point out that activation emails are not being sent. We typically activate you within 24 hours, often sooner. If you've registered for an account here and haven't gotten your activation email, try logging in anyway.

As we've observed numerous times, these guys would rather bitch than read.

[arayder]

Why doesn't Pigpot come over there, register and have the discussion he seems so intent on having?

He/she/it actually did, and became a member of Q over 24 hours before your post - Tuesday at 8:13 AM, to be exact.

Maybe not so "intent".

I posted on Stevens' forum at some length, and most of my exchanges were with Stevens. Anyone can read them and evaluate for himself or herself. And since that I appear to have become unregistered.

Pigpot,

Please join us here in a discussion. You are welcome to post here.

-arayder

[The Observer]

Pigpot,

Please join us here in a discussion. You are welcome to post here.

-arayder

No, no, no you are going about it all wrong. You'll never get him to post here with that kind of approach.

Will Rogers once responded to a congressman who was complaining that his legislation encouraging people to plant trees was not resulting in people planting trees. Rogers told him to get a bill passed that banned tree planting and he would have more people planting trees than he could handle.

So, Pigpot, you are not welcome to post here. In fact, I am ordering you to not post here and you better listen to me and obey me and acknowledge my superiority over you by not posting here.

[arayder]

F-bombs and insults aside Pigpot wants to talk about the legitimacy of government.

As best I can tell his concluding argument is that governments have no legitimacy or authority because they are the inventions of men, women and society.

If Pigpot were to man up and address his own argument one would be compelled to ask him how common law, freemanism or his own philosophy could be valid since these, too, are the mere inventions of man.

Care to comment, Pigpot?

[arayder]

Our new friend's inaction brings to mind the classic southern dismissal: "Bless his heart, he's just doing the every best he can."

[bmxninja357]

Forum is OFFLINE!
Greetings, I am no longer able to update the site on this server and as Pete has indicated it may close at any time. I no longer have access to any administration features here higher than these forums. My access to emails was restricted long before that, for the time being anyone wishing to contact me can reach me through admin@anyserver.ca Visit our new location at http://wfs.anyserver.ca/ Kindest regards, Patrick.

peace
ninj

[arayder]

Forum is OFFLINE!
Greetings, I am no longer able to update the site on this server and as Pete has indicated it may close at any time. I no longer have access to any administration features here higher than these forums. My access to emails was restricted long before that, for the time being anyone wishing to contact me can reach me through admin@anyserver.ca Visit our new location at http://wfs.anyserver.ca/ Kindest regards, Patrick.

peace
ninj

All the more reason Pigpot should come here, as invited, to pose his questions and make his arguments.

Perhaps the "f" key on his keyboard his broken?

[Jeffrey]

Rest in Peace WFS.

[bmxninja357]

wfs is back, just at a different addy. technical difficulties.

ninj

[wserra]

Pigpot,

Please join us here in a discussion. You are welcome to post here.

It's been two weeks since pigpot registered. Seems like that's not gonna happen.

I wonder why?