Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby Gregg » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:20 am

USAA really didn't have any choice because of their FDIC regulations in relation to a loss of a material amount. There's not a set amount for when a loss is material and normally for a bank that size $1.5 million isn't enough but the fact that it was part of a systematic attempt at fraud that partially succeeded and the attempt was, it total, for I think $29 million, coupled with the fact that the system in general is getting a spike in this kind of fraud, made it material enough that whoever is in charge of deciding where the line is wasn't going to bet it wasn't under it.

So, even though a million - five is just a big mortgage these days, and even twenty nine million isn't in the scheme of things isn't a whole lot for USAA, the fact that they had a hole in their security that allowed it was the thing that was material, and there wasn't any way to hide it. Given all that, they couldn't just ignore it. It didn't help that they couldn't get the other bank to annul the transfer and they are on the hook for the RV, a little asset that's going the lose tens of thousands of dollars before they will make any recovery.
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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby Siegfried Shrink » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:34 pm

It would be a very 'bankster'ish thing to do to simply keep the RV to use as a corporate camper van for fun days out for the board of directors. The thing is massive (would you even be able to drive it without some special driving test?) and would be ideally suited to grinding the faces of the poor and riding roughshod over downtrodden masses, possibly with the VP in charge of Pointless Cruelty scattering shovelfulls of red hot quarters from the back as they go.

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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby ssmith » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:47 pm

Speaking of fun outings..... They could all load up in the RV and drive to the courthouse for the January 23rd festivities. Maybe do a little tailgating prior to the start of the trial. If there's an empty parking lot close by, a flag football game could be organized against the OPPT team. Possibilities are endless!

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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby morrand » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:19 pm

Siegfried Shrink wrote:The thing is massive (would you even be able to drive it without some special driving test?) ....


Subject to the usual caution that driving laws in the US are set by the states and are not completely uniform across the nation: yes, probably. RVs get a lot of leeway in that regard.

Although, if you were to use it for grinding the faces of the poor, &c., in connection with a commercial enterprise (rather than recreationally), you might need a commercial driver's license.
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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby arayder » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:53 pm

notorial dissent wrote:
Gregg wrote:I don't know where, but I did see somewhere that Harvey actually had a tech related job that was a pretty good paying gig not too long ago. I'm wondering whether his loss of the job made him go all sovcit or if he drank the kool aid and that caused him to lose the job, but I'd bet there was some connection.


It is more likely had the job, drank the koolade, lost the job. Funny how employers don't like dealing with krazy people, and I'm betting he fit the bill once he found his mission. I will say that I have a real hard time believing he had a real tech job, unless it was something really esoteric that didn't require doing anything more than the one thing he was really qualified to do. Sovcits as a rule generally have really poor people interpersonal relation type skills. I've seen nothing to indicate otherwise with Harvey.


Harvey goes into a car dealership and tries to fast woo talk himself into a car. He goes into a bank and tries to access his birth certificate account, or whatever he calls it.

So what makes anybody think he's going to get through the most cursory job interview without going weird? Who thinks he's going to handle the first challenging day at work? Who thinks he could run his own business?

It's always been my contention that the best thing the freeman/sovcit community and its leaders could do would be to stop talking legal advice and start taking care of their subculture's collective mental health.

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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby The Observer » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:31 am

arayder wrote:So what makes anybody think he's going to get through the most cursory job interview without going weird?


What makes me think that Harvey could get through a cursory interview? My years of experience of seeing people like Harvey sailing through interviews due to carelessness, or employment policies designed to level the playing field creating pressure to pick enough candidates identified as preferred hires. Plenty of whackos get jobs for the wrong reasons. Just recall how many of those types ended up deciding their job and/or boss sucked and decided to end their career by bringing a gun to work. Now ask yourself about how those people managed to get past the first interview?

So I am not at all surprised that Harvey could have landed a job in the tech industry. The only real question is how long before his employer was able to gain enough courage to terminate him once they realized that Harvey was a train wreck waiting to happen.
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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby notorial dissent » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:41 am

I am still more inclined to the belief that IF Harvey EVER really had what amounted to a tech job he was hired either because someone knew him and he could do the job they required and they couldn't find anyone else, or he was a temp that they hired and could do the job and they didn't want to look for anyone else. Either way, he probably wouldn't have had to have really interviewed, and I really can't see him getting past an interview either. I've seen lots of those over the years with no skills other than the one(s) they were hired for.
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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:04 am

He could have had a tech job before going off the rails. Look at Karen Hudes, Rekha Patel, Neelu Berry, etc. They all had respectable jobs which would have required degree level learning, but none of them now do anything other than spout new age or FMOTL bs.
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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby Siegfried Shrink » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:10 am

This seems to be ploughing into blue seas of speculation that are really not in what I perceive to be the Quattloos ethos of sourced and supportable fact.

Simply slagging people off is neither germane nor productive.

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Re: Harvey Dent and the Intellectual Freedom Movement

Postby arayder » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:13 pm

Siegfried Shrink wrote:This seems to be ploughing into blue seas of speculation that are really not in what I perceive to be the Quattloos ethos of sourced and supportable fact.

Simply slagging people off is neither germane nor productive.


Well, we are speculating. But I think the behavior of these FMOTL/sovcit is interesting. Plus Harvey is a chronic "over sharer" who regularly discusses the details of his life.


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