Foreclosure case in NC

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Demosthenes
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Foreclosure case in NC

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> From: *rascento*
> Date: Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Family Update
>
>
> Blessings and Hello;
>
> I'll try to keep this short, however, if I do not succeed, you
> may one to print out :-)
>
> Tomorrow, Monday, 9th, we will have our Hearing and I'll
> briefly go into what we will be standing on and the expected
> outcome.
>
> But, first to update thus far, in an effort to obtain
> documentation to support our claim that the Court has a
> conflict of interest "PRESIDING" a matter involving a bank.
> These docs, which we could have obtain for ourselves from the
> Secretary of STate's office, but would have more of an impact
> from sworn witness....just so happens these witnesses would
> have been the Clerk of the Court, herself, a Superior Court
> Judge & a County Manager.
>
> The Clerk of the Court, denied issuing our subpoenas and said
> that she would take them to the Sr. Resident Superior Court
> Judge....which he denied our right to subpoena for evidence.
> Stating that we were trying to delay the hearing, when in fact
> the deposition would have been almost 2 weeks prior to the
> hearing, so that wasn't his "real" excuse. The real reason is
> the docs we were asking would have shown that there is
> billions of dollars, within the state budget, allocated
> towards judges retirement by and vested with banks.
>
> We also were trying to request their campaign contribution
> statement (all are public records if you can get them) which
> will also show financial conflict of interest for a judge to
> hear issues coming before them when banks are a party.
>
> I like how a dear friend pointed out the term "preside", that
> judges have already "pre-sided" their judgment and to whom
> they are truly representing the best interest of.
>
> By the court not issuing our subpoenas, thereby violating our
> rights to obtain evidence in an open case, we have submitted a
> letter to the judge stating numerous case laws where the
> supreme court has ruled in favor of cases like these.
>
> We've also, submitted claims against both the Clerk of Court
> and Judge's bond with the state's insurance company.
>
> Now, what the first hearing will be about (there will be two
> with Wells Fargo 2nd team who's handling the Complaint against
> them):
>
> Hearing 1: *_Motion to Vacate Orders Or For Recusal
> And Withdrawal From The Case_* - here Don will state several
> arguments and I will state the rebuttals, basically its when
> the Judge cuts Don off I will question whether the judge is
> moving forward with its' jurisdiction challenged, or whatever
> the issue maybe.
> Issue #1 - refusal of the Court to allow subpoenas
> for itself concerning the facts we have found suggesting that
> conflict of interest do exist obviously are issues very
> sensitive and potentially damaging to the Court and County
> Government)
> #2 - that there is prima facie evidence
> from the pleadings (of the opposing attorneys) that the style
> of the name of the state in their Service of Process is not
> that designated as the legal name of the state found in the
> preamble to the North Carolina constitution and numerous
> other constitutional references, and which is legally required
> for Service of Process necessary to carry the authority of
> the Constitutional government of North Carolina to hear our case
> #3 - we also found that the North
> Carolina general statues cited in the Court's Summon and in
> the opposing attorneys' pleadings (Notice of Foreclosure and
> other foreclosure documents) as state law had either no
> enacting clauses or enabling acts, or lack the necessary
> promulgating and implementing regulations passed by the
> legislature and the Certification documents required to be
> filed with the Secretary of STate to be enforced as law of the
> STate of North Carolina upon which a Court sitting under the
> authority of the judicial branch of the Constitutional
> government may make judicial determinations in our case.
>
> #4 - we also find that the Court itself is
> identified on Dunn and Bradstreet as a Private Company branch
> location of Judiciary Courts Of the State Of North Carolina,
> were as the Clerk herself is "doing business as" under her
> name engaging in commerce, commercially trading and
> financially interconnected as pseudo government entities.
> Evidencing that the judges are NOT an unbiased judicial court
> of government the voters believed they have elected through
> the sovereign electors on North Carolina to protect their rights.
>
> #5 - and more importantly we ask that the
> Court establishes, on the record, what jurisdiction of
> government the Court's oath is to. Which is either North
> Carolina, the state of the republic, and the constitutional
> republic, united States of America OR to some other entity of
> the same name that is not the government directly created
> through the sovereign electors on the land, on North Carolina.
>
> It has been determined by the Supreme Court that "There has
> been created a *_fictional federal 'State_* Of North Carolina'
> *_within a state_*." And in other federal law (which we will
> give copies to the opposing attorney of the laws cited) that
> Congress defines various places of exclusive federal
> jurisdiction as "States". These places are _*not "state of the
> Union".*_
>
> My rebuttals are to make sure it is stated, in the record,
> that the Court's is proceeding with its
> jurisdiction challenged and unestablished and we will ask the
> Court to vacate its Orders, dismiss this case from its Court
> or we will move to subpoena the documents and persons to
> testify on these issues in future action and jurisdiction.
>
>
> And if after that, we are allowed to proceed, we will argue
> that we have sent non-cash payment and the bank has not
> returned to us any dishonoring of our payment had they
> negotiated it for recovery and settlement.
>
> Also, lets not mention our oral argument on whether the
> opposing attorney's oath is to uphold the Constitution created
> through the sovereign electors on North Carolina or is his
> oath to the federal area STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA and the
> federal [corporation] UNITED STATES created by Congress
> functioning under the Emergency War Powers Acts of 1861 and
> after, whose protections are not unalienable rights.
>
> By law we have a right to require and know these things before
> we have to face opposing counsel in our defense.
>
> And another issue we'll be bring up will be the attorney's
> licensed to practice law. Under numerous statues of the Code
> regulating attorneys, attorneys needing and having a license
> to practice law and take the prescribed oath. We will ask that
> the opposing counsel produce any evidence for the Court of a
> copy of the oath he has taken and any evidence he as such a
> license required to practice law in this state court. A Bar
> Card is not a license...we have yet failed to see a "REAL"
> license. Now, he if tries to produce a bar card as license and
> of course the court will except it, our question will be "What
> jurisdiction of government is it issued under?" That makes a
> difference folks!!!
>
> Okay, in a nutshell these are the issues we will try to be
> heard on...of course we do expect the judge to trample right
> over us, evading every issue on jurisdiction (the most
> important one) and granting the opposing attorney the right to
> foreclose.
>
> Actually, the more the judge violates our rights the better.
> Because we will take this to a higher court (if the Lord so
> move us).
>
> This isn't about the house, its about light exposing darkness
> and deception..its about learning to Stand without Fear, a
> characteristic, I believe will be necessary for what is to
> come...
But, there must be wisdom/knowledge which can only come
> from the Father.
>
> Well, hope that wasn't too long!
>
> Will keep you updated.
>
> Thank you for listening, your prayers and your
> wisdom/knowledge some have offered.
>
> Love In Christ,
> the family; rascento
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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It's going to be a short hearing.

Obviously "the family; rascento" has blundered through the looking-glass.

One can only hope they'd be honest in reporting the outcome, but that's probably too much to ask. Instead, because of their own ignorance and pig-headedness, they're going to not only lose their property, they'll come back and rail against the Judge and the court because their nonsense didn't work.
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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rascento wrote: > This isn't about the house, its about light exposing darkness
> and deception..its about learning to Stand without Fear, a
> characteristic, I believe will be necessary for what is to
> come...
Yup, you will need to stand without fear...

on the street corner...

under an overpass...

under a bridge...

in the soup kitchen...

anywhere but your house because you can pretty much kiss it goodbye.
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:27 PM
To: RedemptionByMethod@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RedemptionByMethod] Prayer chain request -Request For S.D.

Update on the case:

Hearing today went on as we expected, they did not answer to the lack of jurisdiction,
licenses or merits of the case, the issue was even brought up how the court blocked
the supeona of oaths of office, verification from the court of the bond found in SEC,
and a list of others that was obstruction of justice. This was superior court and what
NC does is force you to go through all the obstacle courses to get ajudication on a
case, another words any issues not brought up in superior court cannot be heard
in the NC court of appeals. What was done before hand is a notice of claim against
the original judges insured bond listed with the NC Department of insurance and put
the current judge on notice that if he tries to block any issues being entered that
the defendant would be happy to enter his insured bond to that claim, the judge
AFV'd the claim verbally and let the representative of the defendant in propria-
persona enter anything they wanted as far as issues of the matter goes.
After everything was entered the trustee's attorney recused themselves from
that part of the proceedings and then the Wells Fargo Attorney motioned for
dismissal of the defendants motion to vacate the original clerks order to vacate,
so this was both a win and a loss at the same time.

Summary:
Loss = Wells Fargo Attorney was successful at stopping the motion to vacate judgement
for improper venue. Judge said they do not get involved in federal court issue and if we
wanted to bring that up in NC court of appeals they might know more then he does.

Win = Judge did not block any evidence being put into the record, that means they
can bring up all these issues in NC court of appeals which include them not acting
in rem, since the debt was previously accepted for value and Wells Fargo has not
given any kind of Notice of Dishonor of any kind and had so many days to do so
they did not so there is no issue and their claim must be voided. Issues were brought
up about the attorney NOT having a license to represent Wells Fargo and that there was
no oath of office to act as a court officer. Issues were brought up for the court to
state into the record as to what venue they were operating under dejure, admiralty,
commercial or military, there was so many issues brought up to be put into the
record I cannot remember them all pertaining to the financial interests of the court.
Many issues were brought up about the Note entered into the original hearing
by Wells Fargo, it was not the original, half of it was missing from the front,
there was no copy made of the back and it was not certified.

Well, off to the NC court of appeals to continue on this journey. will keep you
up to date on this on going saga.
Demo.
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:04 PM
To: RedemptionByMethod@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RedemptionByMethod] Prayer chain request -Request For S.D.

To add the following is straight from the mouth of man in propia-persona
representing the defendent:

First, we'd like to thank everyone for their support and prayers.
By your prayers, which were heard in Heaven, we had a peace during the entire 1.5 hours of presenting the "truth".

Second, the "pre-siding" judge granted the foreclosure to the opposing attorney, which we had expected.

Third, and interestingly enough, the demeanor of the judge was very calm. Our first oral argument addressed the denial of our right to have subpoenas to questions appropriate parties to bring evidence into the case. The "pre-siding" judge (remember this judge has already presided this judgement) then said to us that "he" was not the one who denied the subpoena so he wasn't going to hear that argument. We entered into record that the denial of the subpoena effected our case.

Lastly, Don continued his arguments asking the judge to established which Court he has sworn its oath to uphold. Was it the Constitutional created courts through the sovereign electors on North Carolina, a state of the republic, OR is it to other government entities NOT directly created through the sovereign electors on the land?

Judge's response, "I'm going to allow you to say whatever you want, but I'm not going to answer any questions."

Don continue his series of arguments, threats (intelligent ones with love of course), but the judge repeated his response (and on several different occasions), "I'm going to allow you to say whatever you want, but I'm not going to answer any questions." You can already tell that he had already "judged" this case.

During the hour and half of Don presenting everything that we had, including asking direct questions to the opposing attorneys, but opposing attorneys sat mute....Don paused to get the silence "on the record", then responded "Let the record show that opposing attorney have shown no evidence, or has not rebutted to the fact that we have paid the loan, and have not rebutted to the fact that they could not produce a license to practice law before the court, etc.

In the end the judge granted the opposing attorney their dismissal (oh, surprise!).


All-in-all, I'd say it was a "victory"...for we knew that whatever the outcome (today) was in our Father's hand and that our prayers where always, not let us win to keep the house, but let Thy Will Be Done. We don't always know what our Father's Will is at the moment, but can usually look back and See It. That's what Faith is. We ask that He open doors "HE" wants open and for us to go through, and close doors that He doesn't want us to go through. And I can assure you He open this particular door over 2 years ago and moved us from one coast to another almost 8 years ago, for such a time as this.

We are excited to see what His plans, for us, are next. For now, we don't know, again, that's what Faith is.

Will we have to move? Probably so, but we'll have to be thrown out...because it would be considered "abandonment" if we leave on our own and would have no recourse of action.. . against the court in a Federal "arena" that we may take in the near future.

Blessings,
Demo.
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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The myth marches on!

Ignorance is bliss. :roll:
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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Demosthenes wrote:
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:04 PM
To: RedemptionByMethod@yahoogroups.com
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[...]
All-in-all, I'd say it was a "victory"...for we knew that whatever the outcome (today) was in our Father's hand and that our prayers where always, not let us win to keep the house, but let Thy Will Be Done.
So... "We lost, but since we expected to lose, it's actually a win"

Anyone suppose they're thinking something like... "We lost our house, but because we expected to lose our house, we actually kept our house."
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Re: Foreclosure case in NC

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Judge Roy Bean wrote:The myth marches on!

Ignorance is bliss. :roll:
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