"Sovereigns" plot to kidnap & kill police officers

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David Brutsche and Devon Newman

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From the Associated Press, by way of Fox News:
A couple spent hundreds of hours over four months plotting to abduct, torture and kill Las Vegas police officers as a way to attract attention to their anti-authority "sovereign citizens" movement, police said.

David Allen Brutsche and Devon Campbell Newman attended training sessions about sovereign citizen philosophy, shopped for guns, found a vacant house and rigged it to bind captives to cross beams during interrogation, and recorded videos to explain their actions and why officers had to die.....
--Associated Press, August 23, 2013, "Police in Vegas say 'sovereign citizen' plot to kill officers thwarted", at:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/au ... z2cmqXErU3
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My, what a charming pair!!
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"Sovereigns" plot to kidnap & kill police officers

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David Allan Brutsche and Devon Campbell Newman, two self-proclaimed "sovereign citizens", were arrested for plotting to kidnap and kill police officers in Las Vegas, Nevada.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/crime ... e-officers
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Threads merged.
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wserra wrote:Threads merged.
Thanks, Wes!
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So they believe the sovereign claims about cops being part of the conspiracy to enslave them.

But they have no concern about the much more widely believed claim that cops pull out all the stops when they go after cop killers, and often forget to bring them in alive.
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Well, I guess after a fact, they had kind of a self fulfilling prophesy since they are now going to be guests of the state for quite some time to come.
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And I just found out that one of them's a Scientologist.

http://gawker.com/scientology-flack-arr ... socialflow
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Really? So are the body thetans on the flesh and blood entity or are they just stupidly clinging to the strawman?
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Recent article from Associated Press
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... OLICE_PLOT
A Las Vegas man and woman who had faced three charges alleging they planned to abduct, torture and kill patrol officers to draw attention to an anti-authority sovereign citizen philosophy are heading for trial in Nevada state court on a single conspiracy count.

Prosecutors previously dropped the two most serious charges against David Allen Brutsche and Devon Campbell Newman, before a Las Vegas judge on Thursday ordered them to stand trial on a lesser felony conspiracy to commit kidnapping charge.

The charge could get Brutsche, 42, and Newman, 67, up to six years in prison - much less than the possibility of life in prison on kidnapping with a deadly weapon and conspiracy to commit murder charges
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/no ... n-represe/
Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish ruled today that David Allen Brutsche, who has said he doesn’t recognize the legitimacy of the justice system, would be allowed to act as his own attorney.

Another judge had previously denied Brutsche’s request.
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http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/articl ... 048775.php
Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish on Monday lowered bail for David Allen Brutsche (brew-SHAY') from $600,000 to $200,000.

The judge cut bail for Devon Campbell Newman from $200,000 to $50,000.

Prosecutors previously dropped the most serious charges of conspiracy to commit murder and attempted kidnapping with a weapon.
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http://www.8newsnow.com/story/24206129/ ... -plea-deal
Devon Newman pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit false imprisonment, a gross misdemeanor that could have gotten her one year in jail.

Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish gave Newman one year probation and ordered her to have no contact with former co-defendant David Allen Brutsche.
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Brutsche pleads guilty to conspiracy to kidnap a police officer.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/crime ... kidnap-cop
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/fe ... las-vegas/
An ex-convict who pleaded guilty to conspiring to kidnap Las Vegas police officers told a judge on Wednesday that he no longer adhered to the anti-government sovereign citizen philosophy that prosecutors said underpinned the plot.
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Devon Newman was sentenced to one year probation. David Brutsche was sentenced to five years probation.
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Anyone else think the "former" label is premature?

Watch Brutsche's jailhouse interview.

http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/loc ... 52pyw.cspx
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I would never use the term "former" with most of these people. They will just find another movement to join up with in the future.
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I don't see where they get "former" out of that interview, unless there was more said than reported, but then if so why didn't they say so?
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notorial dissent wrote:I don't see where they get "former" out of that interview, unless there was more said than reported, but then if so why didn't they say so?
He denounced his sovereign beliefs in February at his sentencing hearing. Looks like he may have exaggerated.
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