National Liberty Alliance - Citizen Grand Juries

[grixit]

3 people per state is not enough to constitute an assembly, a senate, a constitutional convention, a politburo, or even a council of regency. But it just might qualify as a junta.

[notorial dissent]

I think does qualify as a conspiracy to overthrow the gov't.

[wserra]

3 people per state is not enough to constitute an assembly, a senate, a constitutional convention, a politburo, or even a council of regency. But it just might qualify as a junta.

Obviously a troika.

[AndyK]

Aside from their total ignorance regarding the Federal and state constitutions and the various laws derived therefrom, both NLA and RuSA have a commonality which almost defies placement on the stupid spectrum.

Both believe (and act on) that a few morons can get together in a bar or over the Internet and -- without the knowledge, review, or approval of the majority of the citizens -- declare themselves the official government.

Not that this is new. For example, there have been several independent governments of Texas over the past decade or so -- much to the surprise of the residents of Texas.

It's just a matter of too many people with too much time and too few brain cells.

[davids]

Both believe (and act on) that a few morons can get together in a bar or over the Internet and -- without the knowledge, review, or approval of the majority of the citizens -- declare themselves the official government.

Isn't it usually a Denny's? To be fair though, there is a Denny's near me which actually HAS a BAR. Perhaps that can be their Court of Appeals?

[LightinDarkness]

Darash now has weekly Thursday calls where he provides loads of legal advice to people who - and I didn't think this were possible - might just be crazier than he is.

Exhibit 1: Some guy gets a traffic ticket then fails to show up for court. They issue a warrant for his arrest (to me this signals a pretty serious traffic offense, they wouldn't do this if you were going 5 miles over the speed limit would they?) and when they show up to arrest him at his house he hides because he claims they failed to properly charge him. Now he asks Darash if he did the right thing because when he was ticketed he already spent 1/2 a day in jail for pulling sov'run gibberish and doesn't want to go back. Darash advises him to sue everyone and go into the court talking common law gibberish and that the judge will flee before the power of his paperwork.

Exhibit 2: Some woman named Lydia, who apparently signed up for some sort of medical school and then ended up getting expelled. The government/school (not sure which, if it was student loans or what) went after her for the balance of the loans/fees for the classes she had taken before being expelled and is now garnishing her government disability $90/month. Shes been harassing courts about this for 10 years, and apparently shes so nuts she served 11 months in jail for harassment because she was harassing people at the medical school - I think that you have to try REALLY hard to get that kind of jail time for harassment. Shes gone full blown sov'run, rambling about common law and jurisdiction and is just convinced - despite her 0% success rate and year in jail - that shes one magical paperwork away from clearing this debt. Darash disagrees somewhat telling her that if she had only filed her magical paperwork the way he files his magical paperwork, she would have won by now. Darash also tells her that if she does her magical paperwork right shell end up with $20 million in damages and all the judges/attorneys involved will go to jail 10 years for the year she was in jail. Poor Lydia though, she might be going back to jail again, apparently she didn't learn from her last jail stay as she revealed shes been charged again for harassment because shes been harassing people at the medical school she was expelled from.

These calls are popcorn eating entertainment...the stupidity level is so high I was giggling at some points: http://www.nationallibertyalliance.com/ ... -07-24.mp3

[LightinDarkness]

On a side note, I have noticed a new pattern with Darash/the callers on his show - they think part of the sov'run magic is always claiming to the plaintiff even when they are the defendant. I don't get it - why does it matter whether you are plaintiff or defendant, and why would you take such pains to act like you are the plaintiff even when you are not/even when its not a civil case? This is something Darash and the callers mention several times, as if its a BIG key to the sov'run incantation.

[fortinbras]

Maybe they're trying to act so delusional that the conviction will be set aside on the grounds that they should have been held incompetent to stand trial.

[LightinDarkness]

This week, on yet another episode of crazy people ranting for three hours the NLA conference call:

- I really think Darash is starting to believe that his paper will have magic like effects on the courts. Until now I thought it was mostly a show for the donations. But you know how we often talk about how this stuff is cargo cult law and believers think if they just do the right incantation they get what they want? Listening this week Darash very much sounded like that, talking about how the paperwork was "powerful" and how once they had all 50 states Staples seals that the judges would be fleeing before them due to the "power" of their paperwork.

- And speaking of all 50 states Stapes seals, its going to be easier than ever to constitute those states because Darash has made it so hysterically easy now. If you can get 3 people together and 20 minutes, any state can now be constituted for sov'run grand juries!

- A caller asked Darash during the Q&A if convicted felons could join NLA. Yes, really, someone asked that. It seems the caller in question is serving a jail sentence every weekend and has been preaching the NLA gospel during that time to his fellow inmates. The answer was yes - all are welcome to be sov'run jurors! However, while convicted felons are welcome, BAR members are not welcome! No attorneys allowed on the sov'run grand jury.

- The infighting is getting fierce. Every week there seems to be some state where the "state coordinator" (a position appointed by Darash and which he can remove whenever he feels like) has gone on a sov'run power trip and enraged the other sov'run jurors in the state. This week it is Michigan, which apparently has over 100 NLA members (now THAT is frightening!). They've been holding votes to vote people out and stirring up so much drama they get to have their own private call with Darash, he didn't want details discussed on the national call.

- There was a hilarious caller who was concerned that he wouldn't be paid as a "county administrator." This guy wants to ensure that when NLA gets into the courts (AKA never), that he got a nice fat pay check for his work. Darash assured him all these self appointed "administrators" would of course be paid. There are sov'runs out there actually counting on NLA so they can be self-appointed Judge Judys and get paid for it as a career.

- The "private attorney general" myth is well endorsed by Darash and the NLA. Anyone appointing themselves as a "private attorney general" is free to act as prosecutor in any court case!

[LightinDarkness]

Tonight was Darash's weekly "let me give you terrible sov'run legal advice" call, but at the beginning he spent some time talking about NLA matters that I thought were rather hilarious. First, he wants $5,000 so he can send out a new set of "Powerful Paperwork" (his words) to every judge he can find. This paperwork will just be crackling with the raw power of the NLA and will of course will have judges signing the gibberish fake mandamus in seconds once they witness the sheer authority of it all.

There was some dismay by Darash though, as though he had hoped to send the embossed seal of every constituted sov'run grand jury - some of the states have not been following orders. Some states have been sending INK seals when you have to have EMBOSSED seals for the magical incantation to work right. INK seals just won't do, you see. No worry though, Darash has decided to buy the One Seal to Rule Them All - an embossed seal representing the entirety of the NLA at a national level.

Somehow I have a feeling when this latest round of gibberish gets ignored, the excuse is going to go back to those failure states that didnt send the all-important EMBOSSED seal. Perhaps our lawyers can tell us, but apparently the EMBOSSED seal makes anyone with legal training shake in their boots while just regular INK seals do not have the same effect. I feel like we are in a Harry Potter movie trying to find the right hex or something with these guys.

[wserra]

Uh-oh. The DJs of NYND are in trouble now.

Perhaps you recall that, a couple of months ago, Judge Suddaby ordered the case administratively closed (in effect, dismissed without prejudice) due to the failure of John Dumbass to either pay the filing fee or request IFP status. A couple of days ago, he ordered all the NLA's filings since that date stricken. The order, in its entirety:

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, that the Petition for Writ of Mandamus (Dkt. No. 7), Submission from non-party filers (Dkt. No. , Submission from Non-party filer (Dkt. No. 9), Letter from Dean Carpenter (Dkt. No. 10), Amended Motion for Writ of Mandamus (Dkt. No. 11), File on Demand/True Bill/Memorandum of Law (Dkt. No. 12), File on Demand/Bill of Information (Dkt. No. 13) and File on Demand/True Bills (1-9) (Dkt. No. 14) in the aboveentitled action shall be stricken from the docket and those documents will not be considered by the Court as there is no case pending in this Court. This case was ordered administratively closed on 5/23/14 (Dkt. No. 6) for the plaintiff’s failure to pay this Court’s filing fee or file a motion to proceed in forma pauperis.

But they're the Almighty Conman Law Grand Jury. How can he do that? Especially to Dkt. No. ?

[Judge Roy Bean]

... But they're the Almighty Common Loon Grand Jury. How can he do that? Especially to Dkt. No. ?

(Fixed it for ya'.)

[ArthurWankspittle]

..... No worry though, Darash has decided to buy the One Seal to Rule Them All - an embossed seal representing the entirety of the NLA at a national level....

Does it have a bit in the middle that rotates through the names of all 50 states?

[Dr. Caligari]

I think this is the seal they need:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vzz3tEUWBk

[grixit]

I was thinking of Lucy playing the seal horns. Unfortunately i can't find a decent still image, though strangely enough there are a lot of sources to watch the full episode.

[LightinDarkness]

Adapted from the Lord of the Rings poem, I give you, the One Seal To Rule Them All:

Three Seals for the State-Coordinators under common law
Seven for the County-Coordinators in their hallowed Dennys
Nine for Grand Jurists doomed to jail
One for the Dark Darash on his natural law throne
In the land of sovereign citizens where cargo cults lie
One Seal to rule them all, One Seal to indict them
One Seal to file papers and through the gibberish bind them
In the Land of the NLA where the sovereigns lie

[notorial dissent]

Saints praysorve os, another one, next thing you know he'll be doing limericks, and they'll be doing it in tandem.

[LightinDarkness]

Well notorial, now that you mention it, I have an idea for a NLA musical! It would take the fashion of "Jesus Christ, Superstar" and instead be "John Darash, Superstar."

[LightinDarkness]

More updatea from the lunatic asylum AKA the NLA and Dear Leader John Darash:

- The shilling for donations is coming on strong now. Darash has decided to make a kick starter campaign...for what, exactly? Why, his bank account. The supposed reason is that he wants something like $6-8 thousand dollars (!) so he can mail 2,000 copies of his latest gibberish to 2,000 federal district court judges.

- The latest gibberish paperwork is more of the same except it contains an updated fake mandamus writ and now contains the exalted embossed seals of all 48 states and The One Seal To Rule Them All. Darash claims he is going to spend all this money he gets from the kick starter and the current $5,000 donation request on his page on certified mail and fancy envelopes, but I'd bet good money if he gets it they'll all go out via regular mail and he will pocket 75% of the money.

- The grand plan from Dear Leader is that once all these 2,000 fake mandamus orders go out, and judges see the sheer power and greatness of both the paperwork and the Staples seals, that surely it will be a done deal and the NLA shall rule the land.

- Darash's gibberish filings that were thrown out in New York...were not mentioned. He vaguely stated something like he would cover it next week...guess he didn't want to mention that after asking for money!

- Darash says that if "we lose this war" that it will be the NLA members fault. The paperwork of course is "powerful" and can only be rejected if the sov'runs don't follow up on it!

- I really think Darash believes his own insanity. He is writing up a grand jury manual that has things like office operations and how the sov'runs will handle the PHONE SYSTEM when they get into the courts (any day now!). Darash's delusions of his own power grow larger with each call. He just doesn't want the sov'runs to get power over the courts, he wants to make sure everyone answers the phone in the manner he approves of!

[grixit]

Rehearsal for the bunker hunker.