Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Moderators: Prof, Judge Roy Bean

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10631
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby notorial dissent » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:58 pm

Both the above comments are quite true and can, and would have an effect on the other defendants. The one thing they missed, or at least didn't expand sufficiently is that at some point, one or more of the group defendants is going to start throwing the others under the proverbial bus in the vein of it wasn't me doing all those illegal things it was someone else. One of the defendants was already upset that one of the Bundy lawyers was pursuing a course that did not protect the other defendants. Surprise surprise, that is how it works. I suspect there will be a lot of residual splatter, but there should be enough to go around to guarantee them all nice long prison sentences.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

Jeffrey
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 2517
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:16 am

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby Jeffrey » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:55 pm

Probably tangentially related and old news, but I just noticed that Pete Santilli was mixed up with Neil Keenan, the guy promoting the Dragon Family nonsense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL7kW_-cfmw

Which draws a neat little nexus between the Bundy Saga and the Dragon Family thread.

User avatar
The Observer
Further Moderator
Posts: 6586
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 12:48 am
Location: Virgin Islands Gunsmith

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby The Observer » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:57 pm

Yes, the sad thing is that, like the fact all roads lead to Rome, in this case all the roads of Frickingtardistan intersect each other multiple times.
"I could be dead wrong on this" - Irwin Schiff

"Do you realize I may even be delusional with respect to my income tax beliefs? " - Irwin Schiff

ArthurWankspittle
Slavering Minister of Auto-erotic Insinuation
Posts: 2654
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:35 am
Location: Quatloos Immigration Control

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:26 am

The Observer wrote:Yes, the sad thing is that, like the fact all roads lead to Rome, in this case all the roads of Frickingtardistan intersect each other multiple times.
and lead back on themselves.
Going to Tibet now and deleting Facebook you have my email address

User avatar
grixit
Recycler of Paytriot Fantasies
Posts: 3499
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 7:02 am
Contact:

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby grixit » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:00 pm

The devil's basket weaving.
I voted for Hillary, and i didn't even get a stupid tshirt!

10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
. . . . . . Dr Pepper
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . 4

rogfulton
Caveat Venditor
Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:08 am
Location: No longer behind the satellite dish, second door along - in fact, not even in the same building.

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby rogfulton » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:13 pm

"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we require him to obey it. Obedience to the law is demanded as a right; not asked as a favor."
- President Theodore Roosevelt

User avatar
The Observer
Further Moderator
Posts: 6586
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 12:48 am
Location: Virgin Islands Gunsmith

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby The Observer » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:49 am

Link is resulting in a "page not found."
"I could be dead wrong on this" - Irwin Schiff

"Do you realize I may even be delusional with respect to my income tax beliefs? " - Irwin Schiff

rogfulton
Caveat Venditor
Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:08 am
Location: No longer behind the satellite dish, second door along - in fact, not even in the same building.

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby rogfulton » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:28 pm

"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we require him to obey it. Obedience to the law is demanded as a right; not asked as a favor."
- President Theodore Roosevelt

User avatar
JamesVincent
A Councilor of the Kabosh
Posts: 2647
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:01 am

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby JamesVincent » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:55 pm

The link works but Bundy never ran cattle on his homestead, that was the problem. Unless someone has made a gather they're still running on BLM land
"Just knowing we're in the same genus makes me embarrassed to call myself Homo." Professor Farnsworth

rogfulton
Caveat Venditor
Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:08 am
Location: No longer behind the satellite dish, second door along - in fact, not even in the same building.

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby rogfulton » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:20 pm

Hyperbole?
"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we require him to obey it. Obedience to the law is demanded as a right; not asked as a favor."
- President Theodore Roosevelt

User avatar
wserra
Quatloosian Federal Witness
Quatloosian Federal Witness
Posts: 6312
Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:39 pm

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby wserra » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:00 am

Nope. Hyperbulle.
"A wise man proportions belief to the evidence."
- David Hume

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10631
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby notorial dissent » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:15 am

WES!!!!
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

Jeffrey
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 2517
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:16 am

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby Jeffrey » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:01 pm

Ryan Bundy is allegedly trying more traditional legal strategies:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... a-standoff

Famspear
Knight Templar of the Sacred Tax
Posts: 7171
Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 1:59 pm
Location: Texas

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby Famspear » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:41 pm

From the news report linked above:

In a pretrial hearing on Monday in court in Portland, federal officials accused Ryan of attempting to escape Multnomah county jail, disclosing that deputies found the inmate on 8 April with torn sheets braided together under his mattress, the Oregonian reported.

Prosecutors said that deputies also found two strips of torn sheets, extra pillowcases, towels and unauthorized food containers.

Bundy responded that he was a “rancher trying to practice braiding rope”, adding: “It’s self-serving speculation and simply not true, your honor,” according to Oregon Public Broadcasting.


Heck, ah mean, whut’s a cowboy tuh doo when he’s cooped up in a jail cell? Knittin'? Shucks, that's woman's work!

:lol:

Gotta practice mah rope-makin’, pardner!


:lol:
...why is anyone in this [losthorizons] community paying the least attention to...'Larry Williams' [Famspear], or other purveyors of disinformation from...quatloos? – Pete Hendrickson, former inmate 15406-039, Fed’l Bureau of Prisons

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10631
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby notorial dissent » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:34 am

Except that rope ISN'T braided, it is wound.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

User avatar
The Observer
Further Moderator
Posts: 6586
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 12:48 am
Location: Virgin Islands Gunsmith

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby The Observer » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:39 am

From the article:

In March, in an unusual move, Ryan decided to represent himself in court and waived his right to counsel.


No, going pro se not an unusual move for a sovrun. In fact it is a de riguer move for a sovrun. Throw a sovrun into court and they cannot help but immediately make a motion to dismiss their public defender and request to represent themselves. It is as if it is some genetic anomaly that propels themselves towards a legal disaster.

Only if it were you or I would requesting pro se status would it be an unusual move.
"I could be dead wrong on this" - Irwin Schiff

"Do you realize I may even be delusional with respect to my income tax beliefs? " - Irwin Schiff

LaVidaRoja
Basileus Quatlooseus
Posts: 756
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:19 am
Location: The Land of Enchantment

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby LaVidaRoja » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:48 am

The adage "He who represents himself has a fool for a client." is probably most specifically true in a criminal case.
Little boys who tell lies grow up to be weathermen.

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10631
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby notorial dissent » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:11 am

Ryan is going for the I'm really really stupid defense, and so far his actions have borne that out perfectly. More appropriately he is an idiot with an idiot for a client. He is going pro se because big brother got all the available grift, what little there was, to get two really really incompetent legal firms in a row to represent him, well actually just get him in deeper, but it is what he wants, it remains to be seen if the current crop will try and go as sovcit as the last batch, but early days yet, and they have no more CDL experience than the prior crew, so good times. He has in the meantime been complaining almost non-stop about how hard it is to plan a defense, or do anything, when he is locked up with no lawyer, seriously. His actual plan, it appears, is that he is going to, he thinks, crib whatever big brother's brilliant legal trust :roll: comes up with and do a sort of joint defense that way. :sarcasmon: I don't think that will work out too well either, for either of them.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

Jeffrey
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 2517
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:16 am

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby Jeffrey » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:46 pm

In a truly delightful turn of events, Ryan Bundy is now trying Karl Lentz' material:

https://www.scribd.com/document/3195784 ... Ryan-Bundy

Discussion on fogbow.

http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... start=7625

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10631
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Sovrun Cattle - The Sagebrush Saga of Cliven Bundy

Postby notorial dissent » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:20 pm

Ryan has filed all sorts of true sovcit meaningless gibberish, and is apparently quite pleased with himself. Included is one unintentionally true and factual document declaring officially to the court that he 'is an idiot and an incompetent" all of which are a howl to read. It is very likely that the court will shortly terminate both his and Medenback's pro se privileges for failure to follow court rules and directives. Medenback was on the old standby invalid oath routine. Judge wasn't amused and isn't playing.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.


Return to “US”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest