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Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:48 pm
by Thule
Randy and Wendy are branching out into new areas. They are running another MLM called Jeuness, with pretty much the same crew as FFI.

http://wolfcom.jeunesseglobal.com/dir.aspx
http://www.myffi.biz/t-CorpBios.aspx

The product? Skin creams with revolutionary stem cell technology that will make you young again. They have teamed up with a doctor called Nathan Newman, who claims to be able to isolate stem cells from adult fat.

Scientific support for this theory is low. The American Society of Plastic Surgeons is looking into the procedures, but their president is sceptical.

"This is just part of the quackery that surrounds stem cells," McGuire says. "Stem cells have incredible potential. But nobody knows exactly what they do. So they're marketed to do everything."

http://www.fox2now.com/business/la-he-s ... 0786.story

And true to form, the 'net is flooded with glowing reviews. Or, one glowing review that pops up all over the place. Although they could polish up the language a bit, seems like it's been run through translation software.

Their final challenge created over one hundred million in gross sales quantity more than 2 many years and compensated out 77 Million in commissions.

On top of that to that, they'd the distinction of accomplishing the fastest growing worldwide growth of any Network marketing corporation inside the background of the globe.

Include on the creation of 15 millionaires and it is plain to find out that founders of Jeuness International know precisely what they're performing.
Jeunesse Global Target Market place

http://www.basearticles.com/Art/382698/ ... -Scam.html

Re: FFI III - Jerry Lang's Position

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:15 pm
by wserra
They probably use left-over MPG-CAPS. Hey, didn't do anything for cars, why should they hurt people?

As a real on-the-horizon treatment with considerable promise, stem cells are a huckster's dream. 60 Minutes did a piece on it a while back. Just a random sampling of their site shows snake oil galore. For example:

(1) Their own personal search for some specific anti-aging solutions led Wendy and Randy to some break-through and cutting-edge technology involving adult stem cell therapy. "Their own personal search", huh? So I take it that Wendy Lewis and Randy Ray are scientists, likely with their own labs, well equipped to perform such a "search"? Not exactly. They're MLM cockroaches, scuttling from one to another. According to their bios, Lewis has degrees in sociology and psychology, Ray in computer science and psychology. Those psych degrees are important it you're going to sell stuff with no proof that it works. Their work experience is all in MLMs, not science.

(2) "Jeunesse is now anchored in a pivotal and enviable position as the sole owner of the exclusive worldwide rights to some of the most important anti-aging technology of this generation." What technology might that be? And I like the meaningless phrase "worldwide rights". Why, say "patent" and somebody might be tempted to ask you for the number. Can't have that.

(3) "The patent-pending technology of LUMINESCE™ cellular rejuvenation serum". "Patent-pending", huh? A USPTO search of patent applications for "Jeunesse" yields a dozen hits, belonging to two or three applicants with that name. None for our guys. Not dispositive, because the applications could always be under the name of the individual. But why not identify it? Well, one possible answer: remember the company that did ID the application number for their miracle elixir, and it turned out to be for the spray bottle?

(4) "The stem cell conditioned media in LUMINESCE™ cellular rejuvenation serum contains human identical cytokines, which have the same attributes as the cytokines in the human body. This allows for a perfect interaction between our product and natural body processes." A perfect example of the old MLM standby: throw out some scientific-sounding gibberish and count on your target marks not knowing enough to understand that it's meaning-free. WTF does "stem cell conditioned" mean? And cytokines are a very large number of proteins that regulate lots of cell activities. You might as well brag that your stuff contains "nutrients". And where is the proof that smearing the stuff on your skin does anything?

(5) I love this one:
Can you use too much LUMINESCE™ cellular rejuvenation serum?

No - there are no negative consequences for using more than the recommended dosage.
Think these guys have ever heard of a systemic inflammatory response syndrome, AKA
"cytokine storm"? Now, since this stuff likely does nothing more than Jergens, you probably don't need to worry about it. But if it did, you might.

(6) Price. Now, we're all used to how expensive MLM stuff is. Gotta pay that upline. But this stuff is unbelievable: a 15mL spray bottle costs $135. Yes, you read correctly: that's about $270/oz.

Thanks, Thule. This stuff deserves its own thread.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:43 pm
by Burnaby49
Someone called herrybraun, a first-time poster, just posted this;

I trust only on scientific theories not only words. I really favor natural substances that surely have better mileage.


I deleted the post because it had advertising in the signature.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:25 am
by eric
Since today is Wednesday I thought it appropriate to comment on this post. Those of you with a weak stomach please ignore. So what does Wednesday have to do with hair brained stem cell programs? Simple, at the farm it's donuts for testicles day or 'nuts for nuts. Every week a quite reputable group of university stem cell researchers sends up to the farm a grad student bearing large quantities of donuts. In exchange they receive a few hundred pig testicles harvested from very young (a few days old) piglets. A couple of times a year we also receive a request from a Japanese cosmetics manufacturer (they pay real money though) for afterbirth/placenta. I leave it to the reader to invent their own acronym for this sordid yukkiness. :mrgreen:

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:32 pm
by Arthur Rubin
Burnaby49 wrote:I deleted the post because it had advertising in the signature.
The "proper" way to do that is to block his ability to have a signature. I believe a couple of members on moderation are set up that way, in addition to not being allowed to edit their own posts.

Unless, of course, the post was just advertising....

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:07 am
by Burnaby49
Arthur Rubin wrote:
Burnaby49 wrote:I deleted the post because it had advertising in the signature.
The "proper" way to do that is to block his ability to have a signature. I believe a couple of members on moderation are set up that way, in addition to not being allowed to edit their own posts.

Unless, of course, the post was just advertising....


Essentially all advertising. It was from a first-time poster who's sole point was to praise the virtue of natural remedies (at least as I recall it, I didn't pay a lot of attention). Just by fortunate chance there were links to those natural remedies in the signature.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:02 am
by wserra
I deleted him, because he did it again.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:28 am
by JamesVincent
What a hard crowd.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:54 am
by Burnaby49
JamesVincent wrote:What a hard crowd.


I spent 35 years as an income tax auditor. It turned me into what I am today.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:46 pm
by Judge Roy Bean
Burnaby49 wrote:
JamesVincent wrote:What a hard crowd.


I spent 35 years as an income tax auditor. It turned me into what I am today.


A pink beaver?

Wow.

Re: Better Mileage Through Stem Cells (Jeunesse)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:41 pm
by Burnaby49
Judge Roy Bean wrote:
Burnaby49 wrote:
JamesVincent wrote:What a hard crowd.


I spent 35 years as an income tax auditor. It turned me into what I am today.


A pink beaver?

Wow.


That was Webhick's doing. My previous avatar was this boring but informative insignia, the Coat of Arms of the City of Vancouver;

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Then Web thought it more appropriate that I become what I am today.

So why the Vancouver Coat of Arms when I live in Burnaby? I think the Burnaby Coat of Arms looks silly;

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