artessa wrote:There is no doubt about the fact that Tonys knowledge is of great value to this debate. It seems that he has actually become interested in the debate as well. Unfortunately he is far too self- confident to actually believe in something he hasn’t tried out himself or that he can fully understand easily. The very best that could happen is that he dared to try it out himself but that on other hand would be a loss of prestige having taken such a fail proof position from the beginning of this debate. I bet you he is just about to feel a little bit uncomfortable about this situation.
Everything I know about engines, and have read about FFI, says to me the MPG-Caps don't work. Unless and until FFI get some proper scientific test data to prove me wrong, I will continue to feel quite comfortable.
I might add that supporters of many other products have said the same about me in the past and then been forced to eat their words.
artessa wrote:On the other hand there is information in this thread that backs him up. Claiming that engines before the 90th could have operated with such a lean fuel mix as suggested is not helping our issue because the mixture would not have been within explosive limits in a petrol engine. Some misunderstanding or bad writing must be the origin of such a claim.
Well, indeed. A great many things that FFI (or their supporters) have said in the past are obviously false (anti-matter car wash, anybody?
) So why should we believe anything
artessa wrote:Taking advantage of the fact that Tony has become a participant of this debate we could ask him how, just in the case he would do it, would perform an engine performance test regarding the use of the pill. No one could be more useful then him having made a test according to his criteria. It would be extremely interesting. But then, once again could it be considered as a loss of face to actually accept to try it out?
As I have stated many, many times, you need an EPA-type mileage and economy test ( http://www.fuelsaving.info/drive_cycle.htm
). I'd be more than happy to advise FFI on exactly how to do this. But it costs a few tens of thousands of dollars so no way can I do it myself.
artessa wrote:As Tony never have taken part of the recommended procedure fore the use of the pill he doesn’t know that fore the initiating procedure it is not enough with 10 or 20 kilograms of fuel so his argument for that fact is not valid.
The change in AFR on FFI's dyno test happens almost immediately after the MPG-Caps are added. It was TheBest who claimed this effect was due to the pills.
artessa wrote:It also struggle me where you have read that the test procedure with changing load conditions as impropriate?
It was on a video on YouTube, I believe. FFI must have some
reason not to do the one test that would silence the critics.