Irwin A. Schiff, 1928 - 2015

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Irwin A. Schiff, 1928 - 2015

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According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Irwin A. Schiff passed away on October 16, 2015.
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They say that in this world nothing can be certain, except Death and taxes, Irwin has lost the battle with both, and has again proven this point.
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If Irwin Schiff is in heaven, he is in a heaven where the 16th Amendment was not, in fact, ratified and is invalid. If he is in ...the "other place", he is experiencing a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG face-to-face audit with a grumpy IRS agent or twelve.
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Is it burnaby49 on a bender?

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Very sad.
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bmxninja357 wrote:Is it burnaby49 on a bender?

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A sad, wasted, and utterly useless life. If he had just been honest he could have lived happily and spent his declining years with his loved ones, as it is, all he has as a memorial is that he passed his wasted, useless life and beliefs and the bitterness that went with it on to the next generation so that they can destroy their lives, and the lives of their families as well.

I'm sure there is something really appropriate in Latin, but I can't think of it just now.
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It's amazing he lasted as long as he did. 87 is old for prison, especially when you're a diabetic with lung cancer.
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There should be a NY Times obituary coming out. Schiff was one of the 2000 obits they keep in a file, pre-written and updated as needed.
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In 1913, the 16th Amendment — which grants Congress the power to collect income taxes “without apportionment among the several States” — was ratified. Since then, no legal argument against the income tax has been upheld.
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Peter Schiff weighs in on the death of his father, a "patriot" who "opposed the Federal Government’s illegal and unconstitutional enforcement and collection of the income tax."

He also states that his father died from skin cancer "that went undiagnosed and untreated while he was in federal custody," and that he received "virtually no medical care at all, not even for the cataracts that left him legally blind."

At the end, Peter compares his father to William Wallace, in the movie "Braveheart." (No "Matrix" allusions, though.)

http://www.schiffradio.com/death-of-a-patriot/
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I was introduced to the entire subject of criminal tax protesters through the discovery of one of Irwin Schiff's books many years ago, as noted here:

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Peter is an ass, but then it does seem to be genetic.
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I remember this article on him back in the mid-1990s when it seemed the coast was clear for him to peddle his bunkum: http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/05/busin ... ometh.html

The conviction: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/25/busin ... asion.html

The mental illness defense: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/busin ... ional.html

The follower convicted: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/busin ... -case.html

His book outlawed: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/10/busin ... taxes.html
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notorial dissent wrote:Peter is an ass, but then it does seem to be genetic.
Peter may be an ass sometimes, but I would give him a pass for eulogizing his dead father.
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Dr. Caligari wrote:
notorial dissent wrote:Peter is an ass, but then it does seem to be genetic.
Peter may be an ass sometimes, but I would give him a pass for eulogizing his dead father.
I'd give him a pass as well, but "eulogizing" and "self-serving nonsensical rant" aren't really the same thing.
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