Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

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Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Famspear » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:31 pm

On March 9, 2015, the Internal Revenue Service reportedly assessed a penalty of $225,000 against Robert L. Schulz under 26 USC section 6700, dealing with the promotion of abusive tax shelters, etc.

In April 2015, Schulz apparently paid $1,000 of the penalty amount and filed a Form 6118, Claim for Refund of Tax Return Preparer and Promoter Penalties.

Of course, Schulz is contesting the validity of the entire $225,000 penalty. On November 2, 2015, Schulz filed a pro se complaint against the United States in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of New York. This is case number 15-cv-01299-BKS-CFH.

Fortunately, Schulz has been receiving assistance from a heavy hitter -- Samuel Lambert, a tax attorney in Salt Lake City. According to Mr. Lambert's resume, Mr. Lambert was formerly with the Tax Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. However, in the Federal District Court proceeding, Schulz still appears to be pro se.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Famspear » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:41 pm

According to materials filed in the District Court case, the Internal Revenue Service issued a Notice of Federal Tax Lien (NFTL) for $224,000, dated November 24, 2015, against Schulz. The NFTL may have been filed in Warren County, New York.

Bob Hurt has published or re-published this material in connection with Schulz:

March 24, 2017

Dear Friends of Liberty,

He’s been holding government accountable for three decades without taking a penny for his work, in an effort to restore the First Amendment Right to Petition.

In an epic lawsuit now underway between Bob and the government, all energy left in 77 year old Schulz is now going into his own defense.

He’s had no other choice but to place his Life’s work - through his national and New York State organizations - on hold indefinitely, until the case is resolved.

What’s on the line? A six figure penalty assessed against him which cannot legally apply to anyone who has never taken income or made money for the work they do. To have it dropped, he has to prove it. No stone is being left unturned in their Discovery process. To encourage suffering and distress, they put a lien on his farm and land so he is unable to sell any parcels, blocking the means through which Bob has been able to pay his property and school taxes through the years.

Bob and his wife have lived only on meager social security payments dedicating their lives to government accountability and defense of our Constitutions. You have seen their 24/7 level of determination and dedication to the Cause of Liberty.

The property tax is now due. Bob and Judy have been scraping to try to find what is owed and they are only half way there.

Someone suggested crowdfunding would make possible what appears impossible.

If you’d like to help them, a GOFUNDME crowdfunding page has been established to raise the remaining $2,600.00 amount which is needed. The bill is due, so time is of the essence.

Click on this link to DONATE: [link redacted]

In his lawsuit, there is so much more at stake than one man’s efforts, as his work was meant to restore the power back to the People where it was meant to reside in the first place. The Right to Petition IS the Accountability Clause that allows us to claim redress for constitutional grievances, a Right the government may not want us to have.

If you are interested in the lawsuit, attached is Bob’s most recent submission to the Court. The Motion for Reconsideration has three components - an important Affidavit from long-standing Congressman Roscoe Bartlett who was a key player in the events of 2003 around which this lawsuit is focused -; a Memorandum of Law written by Bob and how own Affidavit.

We pray that the funds will come and thank you for your assistance to them. We pray they will soon be FREE and able to return to the Vision they have worked so hard to manifest in America. Thank you so much for your time and consideration.

Friends of Bob Schulz
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Famspear » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:11 pm

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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Pottapaug1938 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:57 pm

So Schulz makes a chump-change payment (1/225th of what he owes), and thinks that this gives him a Golden Ticket to challenge the entire lien yet again.

Wow.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Duke2Earl » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:08 pm

And yet Shultz is perfectly happy to take the our tax dollars as social security payments that he is living on.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby AndyK » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:18 pm

Funny how no one has mentioned 'We The People' and the fees Bob has charged them for various services over the years.

At last look, the 'We The People Foundation' is in deep doodoo with the IRS for Bob's failure to reply to a time-sensitive notice which was delivered to his house while he was away.

In any case, the Tax Court site shows two cases arelated to petitioner 'We The People.'

Not surprisingly, the government prevailed in both cases.

And, for those not familiar with what's going on, Bob Hurt is a moron. He has never found a Tax Court decision with which he agrees for any number of insane reasons.


In any case, Bob has painted himself into a corner. After years where the windmills against which he tilted have unhorsed him, he finally finds himself in a position where he has to pay the piper.

Unfortunately for Bob, he has squandered all his support. His acolytes have moved on to new gurus or back into the mainstream of the sheeple.

In a word, Bob is SOL.

However, I will miss him. He was one of the most amusing lunatics.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Number Six » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:35 pm

I'm surprised it took so long as he was one of the most outspoken TPs with a significant network up in Queensbury, I would have thought that NY would have also taken action as CA and NY are known as tough states for tax protesters.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Famspear » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:41 pm

Looks like Bob Schulz has been trying to re-litigate the issue of whether he was liable under section 6700.

The District Court shot that effort down on March 7, 2017, ruling that the issue was already decided against him in United States v. Schulz, 529 F. Supp. 2d 341 (N.D.N.Y. 2007), aff'd, 517 F.3d 606 (2d Cir. 2008), cert. denied, 555 U.S. 946 (2008), and that he is now collaterally estopped. See Memorandum-Decision and Order, Schulz v. United States, docket entry 88, March 7, 2017, case no. 15-cv-01299-BKS-CFH (U.S. District Court for the Northern District of New York).

This leaves for consideration the amount of penalty due. The Court states that Schulz "may challenge on the basis that he received no income from the abusive tax shelter". Discovery is still on-going.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby Famspear » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:55 pm

Schulz had also tried to obtain an injunction prohibiting the government from engaging in "any lien or levy collection activity." That effort was shot down by the District Court in February of 2016.

In this case, Schulz also failed in an effort to obtain a partial removal of the Federal tax lien, to free up to parcels of real estate so that he could sell them and obtain money to afford legal counsel. Schulz complained of "irreparable" injury because of his supposed loss of his Sixth Amendment right to legal counsel. (Presumably, his argument was that he could not afford to pay a lawyer unless he could sell the real estate free and clear of the tax lien.) The District Court shot that down -- and noted that "except when faced with the prospect of imprisonment, a litigant has no legal right to counsel in civil cases", quoting from Guggenheim Capital, LLC v. Birnbaum, 722 F.3d 444, 453 (2d Cir. 2013).

Meanwhile, the government has counterclaimed against Schulz, seeking a Court order to reduce to judgment the section 6700 penalties.
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Re: Robert L. Schulz & $225,000 penalty

Postby notorial dissent » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:29 am

Bobby's got buttHurt, again, of teh agony, oh teh humanity, oh teh drama, oh hooey!!!

I would think that after a real and careful audit of Bob's money machines that he and his idiot son would both be in a lot of hot water tax wise. I had kind of thought this was all over and done with by this point, but guess not.
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