Frivolous IRS Arguments v. Springer

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Lindsey Springer has "won" a case in the 10th Circuit, in the sense that he was not sanctioned and saw the government's own arguments described as frivolous by the court. He's still going to be subject to levy by the government to collect the taxes, penalties, and interest owed, but that's just a detail.

Lindsey K. Springer v. Commissioner, 2009 TNT 167-4, No. 08-9004 (10th Cir. 8/31/2009).
10th Circuit wrote:LINDSEY K. SPRINGER,
Petitioner-Appellant,
v.
COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE,
Respondent-Appellee.

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
TENTH CIRCUIT

APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES TAX COURT
(Tax Court No. 17707-06L)

Submitted on the briefs:*

Jerold Barringer, Nokomis, Illinois for Petitioner-Appellant.

Nathan J. Hochman, Assistant Attorney General, Michael J. Haungs, Laurie Snyder, Attorneys, Tax Division, Department of Justice, Washington, D.C., for Respondent- Appellee.

Before KELLY, McKAY, and BRISCOE, Circuit Judges.

McKAY, Circuit Judge.

In this tax case arising under the Internal Revenue Code, Lindsey K. Springer appeals the Order and Decision entered by the United States Tax Court granting summary judgment in favor of the Commissioner of Internal Revenue on Mr. Springer's challenges to collection due process determinations issued by the Internal Revenue Service's Office of Appeals. The determinations permit the IRS to proceed to collect by levy Mr. Springer's delinquent federal income tax liabilities for 1990 through 1995 and a penalty imposed by the Tax Court in 1996 under 26 U.S.C. § 6673(a)(1) in a prior proceeding. Exercising jurisdiction under 26 U.S.C. § 7482(a)(1), and having reviewed the Tax Court's grant of summary judgment de novo, see Scanlon White, Inc. v. Comm'r, 472 F.3d 1173, 1174 (10th Cir. 2006), we affirm.

I.

The extensive background of this case, as well as three prior related cases that Mr. Springer filed in federal district court and also appealed to this court, see Springer v. Internal Revenue Serv., 231 F. App'x 793 (10th Cir. 2007), is thoroughly set forth in the Commissioner's response brief, see Aplee. Br. at v-vi, 4-16, and we will not repeat it here.

II.

As correctly noted by the Commissioner, the overarching issue in this case is "[w]hether the Tax Court correctly sustained the determinations of the IRS Office of Appeals upholding the proposed collection by levy of [Mr. Springer's] federal income tax liabilities for [1990] through 1995 and an I.R.C. § 6673 penalty." Aplee. Br. at 4. Mr. Springer is challenging the Tax Court's determinations, claiming that he is not liable for the penalties and interest that the IRS has imposed in connection with the assessed income tax deficiencies because the IRS Form 1040 for each of the subject tax years did not comply with the requirements of the Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA), 44 U.S.C. §§ 3501-3549.1 More specifically, Mr. Springer claims that § 3512 of the PRA provides him with a complete defense to at least part of his tax liabilities.2 Section 3512 is entitled "Public protection" and it provides as follows:
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no person shall be subject to any penalty for failing to comply with a collection of information [from a federal agency] that is subject to this subchapter

if --

(1) the collection of information does not display a valid control number assigned by the Director [of the Office of Management and Budget] in accordance with this subchapter; or

(2) the agency fails to inform the person who is to respond to the collection of information that such person is not required to respond to the collection of information unless it displays a valid control number.

(b) The protection provided by this section may be raised in the form of a complete defense, bar, or otherwise at any time during the agency administrative process or judicial action applicable thereto.
44 U.S.C. § 3512.

Because the arguments set forth in Mr. Springer's opening brief are ambiguous in terms of the scope of his challenges under the PRA, and in order to fully resolve all possible issues under the PRA, we will assume that Mr. Springer is challenging all of the amounts that are set forth in the final notice of intent to levy that the IRS sent to him in March 2005.3 As set forth in the Commissioner's response brief, see Aplee. Br. at 7, those amounts include: (1) the unpaid amounts owed from prior notices, which include: (a) the deficiency amounts that were assessed in May 1997 for each of the tax years in question; (b) the initial penalties for failing to file income tax returns and underpayment of estimated tax that were assessed in May 1997 under 26 U.S.C. §§ 6651(a)(1) and 6654(a) for each of the tax years in question; and (c) the initial interest that was assessed in May 1997 under 26 U.S.C. § 6601(a) for each of the tax years in question; (2) the additional failure-to-pay penalties that were imposed in March 2005 under 26 U.S.C. § 6651(a)(3) for each of the tax years in question; and (3) the additional interest that was imposed under 26 U.S.C. § 6601(a) in March 2005 for each of the tax years in question.

We conclude that Mr. Springer does not have a valid challenge under the PRA to any of these amounts. First, because it is undisputed that Mr. Springer received notices of deficiency for each of the tax years in question, see R., Doc. 4, Ex. 2E at 1, which he unsuccessfully challenged in the Tax Court and this court, id., Ex. 2E at 2 and 2F, he was statutorily barred from challenging his underlying tax liabilities during his collection due process hearing, and those liabilities included the penalties and interest that were assessed in May 1997. See 26 U.S.C. § 6330(c)(2)(B) (providing that a taxpayer may challenge "the existence or amount of [his] underlying tax liability" during a collection due process hearing only if he "did not receive any statutory notice of deficiency for such tax liability or did not otherwise have an opportunity to dispute such liability"); Montgomery v. Comm'r, 122 T.C. 1, 7-8 (2004) (concluding that term "underlying tax liability" in § 6330(c)(2)(B) refers to amounts assessed following issuance of notice of deficiency and includes statutory interest and penalties).4

Second, while § 6330(c)(2)(B) does not bar Mr. Springer from challenging the additional failure-to-pay penalties that were asserted in the March 2005 final notice of levy since those penalties did not exist and thus were not at issue at the time of the prior Tax Court deficiency proceedings, Mr. Springer has not alleged any cognizable PRA violations with respect to those penalties. Instead, the only PRA violations he asserts concern the IRS Form 1040. The failure-to-pay penalties have an independent and separate statutory basis under the Internal Revenue Code, however, that is not based on Mr. Springer's failure to file Form 1040s for the tax years in question. As their name plainly indicates, they are based on Mr. Springer's subsequent failure to pay assessed amounts. See 26 U.S.C. § 6651(a)(3). Consequently, because Mr. Springer has failed to articulate any cognizable violation of the PRA in connection with the imposition of the failure-to-pay penalties, § 3512(a) of the PRA provides him with no protection from those penalties.

Finally, with regard to the additional interest that was imposed in March 2005 under 26 U.S.C. § 6601(a) for each of the tax years in question, we agree with the Commissioner that the additional interest is not a "penalty" as that term is used in § 3512(a) of the PRA. See Aplee. Br. at 24 n.9. Although we have not found any case law addressing this issue, we conclude that the imposition of interest under the Internal Revenue Code does not fall within the PRA's statutory definition of the term "penalty." See 44 U.S.C. § 3502(14) ("the term 'penalty' includes the imposition by an agency or court of a fine or other punishment; a judgment for monetary damages or equitable relief; or the revocation, suspension, reduction, or denial of a license, privilege, right, grant, or benefit."). This is consistent with the "clearly established principle that interest [imposed under the Internal Revenue Code] is not a penalty but is intended only to compensate the Government for delay in payment of a tax." Avon Prods., Inc. v. United States, 588 F.2d 342, 343 (2nd Cir. 1978).

III.

One final matter remains to be disposed of and that is the Commissioner's motion to impose sanctions against Mr. Springer and his counsel for maintaining a frivolous appeal. We deny the motion. Although Mr. Springer's appellate briefs are far from a model of clarity, he has managed to advance several arguments in this appeal that raise difficult issues under both the tax code and the PRA. As a result, we cannot say that this appeal is sufficiently frivolous to justify the imposition of sanctions.

While we commend the Commissioner for the extremely helpful statement of the case and statement of facts in his response brief, we also note that the Commissioner himself has made a frivolous argument in his response brief and motion for sanctions that mischaracterizes what happened in Mr. Springer's prior appeal to this court. The Commissioner's argument is as follows:
[Mr. Springer] contends that he is protected from income tax penalties because the "disclosures required by [the PRA] are not on any Form 1040 nor on any non- accompanying, disclaiming, non-binding opinion, instruction or treatise." (Br. 9.) Taxpayer made virtually the identical argument in challenging his liability for the penalties that are due from him under I.R.C. § 6651(a)(1) for failure to file returns for 1990-1995, and this Court rejected it as frivolous. Springer, 231 F. App'x at 801, 801 n.6. It is no less frivolous when asserted in connection with failure-to-pay penalties.
Aplee. Br. at 24 (footnote omitted); see also Motion for Sanctions at 6 (making same argument).

The Commissioner is wrong about what happened in the prior appeal. In that appeal, we referred to the three underlying cases that had been consolidated for appeal as Springer I, Springer II, and Springer III, and we did not address the merits of Mr. Springer's claims under the PRA in any of the three cases. Instead, we affirmed the district court's dismissal of Springer I for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, Springer, 231 F. App'x at 797; we affirmed the district court's dismissal of Springer II on the ground that the Tax Court had exclusive jurisdiction over the case, id.; and we affirmed the district court's dismissal of Springer III on the ground that the PRA does not create a private right of action, id. at 799. Further, in footnote five in the order and judgment, we specifically stated that, "n view of our jurisdictional disposition, we do not reach the merits of Springer I and Springer II." Id. at 799 n.5. And, in footnote 6, the footnote cited by the Commissioner in the above-quoted language, we did not state that the PRA claims in Springer II were frivolous. Rather, we stated that the appeal in Springer II was frivolous due to the obvious jurisdictional defect arising from the fact that Mr. Springer had filed Springer II in federal district court when exclusive jurisdiction resided in the Tax Court. Id. at 801 n.6. The Commissioner is therefore mistaken when he argues that this court addressed the merits of Mr. Springer's PRA claims in the prior appeal, and his argument is frivolous given the obvious nature of the three dispositions in that appeal.

In addition, in his motion for sanctions, the Commissioner states that this court sanctioned the taxpayer-plaintiff in Lewis v. Comm'r, 523 F.3d 1272 (10th Cir. 2008) for making frivolous PRA arguments on appeal. See Motion for Sanctions at 6. But the Commissioner is wrong on this point as well. See Lewis, 523 F.3d at 1278 ("In light of [the] uncertainty in our case law, we decline to impose sanctions against Lewis on appeal for raising these specific PRA challenges against Form 1040.").

The Order and Decision of the Tax Court is AFFIRMED. The Commissioner's Motion for Sanctions is DENIED. The Commissioner's Motion to Dismiss for Failure to Pay Sanctions is DENIED as moot since Mr. Springer has paid the monetary sanction that was imposed against him by this court in his prior appeal.

FOOTNOTES

* After examining the briefs and appellate record, this panel has determined unanimously that oral argument would not materially assist the determination of this appeal. See Fed. R. App. P. 34(a)(2); 10th Cir. R. 34.1(G). The case is therefore ordered submitted without oral argument.

1 Although Mr. Springer appears to raise additional challenges in the reply brief that he submitted to this court, we will consider only the challenges raised in his opening brief, and those challenges are based solely on his arguments under the PRA. See Coleman v. B-G Maint. Mgmt. of Colorado, Inc., 108 F.3d 1199, 1205 (10th Cir. 1997) ("Issues not raised in the opening brief are deemed abandoned or waived.").

2 Although Mr. Springer argues in this appeal that his PRA claims for tax years 1990-1994 are governed by the version of 44 U.S.C. § 3512 that was in effect before the PRA was amended in 1995, any differences between the pre- and post-1995 versions of the statute are not relevant to this appeal.

3 Mr. Springer's arguments under the PRA appear to be limited to the new claims for additional penalties and interest that the IRS imposed in March 2005 under 26 U.S.C. §§ 6651(a)(3) and 6601(a) in connection with the proposed levy. However, given the amount of money that Mr. Springer claims is at issue in this appeal, see Opening Br. at 4 (challenging "over $200,000 in penalty additions"), it also appears that he may be challenging certain aspects of the initial penalties and interest that were assessed in May 1997. Out of an abundance of caution, we will assume the latter is the case.

4 Subsection (b) of the public protection provision in the PRA does not alter this result. See 44 U.S.C. § 3512(b) (quoted above). While that provision obligates federal "agencies and courts [to] entertain [PRA] arguments that would otherwise have been barred either by a statute of limitations or by the proponent's failure to have made the argument at an earlier stage in the administrative or judicial process," Saco River Cellular, Inc. v. FCC, 133 F.3d 25, 30-31 (D.C. Cir. 1998), it does not limit the force and effect of a more specific and different type of statutory bar such as the one in 26 U.S.C. § 6330(c)(2)(B).

END OF FOOTNOTES
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Barringer has turned in his usual sterling performance as a barely-licensed lawyer, submitting briefs that the court publicly describes as "ambiguous" and "far from a model of clarity" and raising new arguments in a reply brief that the court refused to consider because the arguments were not raised in the initial brief.
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LPC wrote:Barringer has turned in his usual sterling performance as a barely-licensed lawyer, submitting briefs that the court publicly describes as "ambiguous" and "far from a model of clarity" and raising new arguments in a reply brief that the court refused to consider because the arguments were not raised in the initial brief.
Surely you understand that Lindsey wrote the brief and Jerry was an attorney in name only?

Initially, the government attempted to get the appeal dismissed because Lindsey was under monetary and filing sanctions, and as a prerequisite, an attorney was required to appear.

What was unknown by the government in the previous litigation was that Lindsey had appealed the CDP determination in both district and tax court. This is the latter appeal.

A similar scenario is presenting itself in the motion hearing, September 14 in Oklahoma City.

DOJ Attorney-in-Chief-for-the-lien-action, Robert Metcalf, has already suggested that if the Commissioner loses in tax court on the "revocation of certificate of release of federal tax lien" (Kim Norman signed lien notice), the lien action (4:08-cv-00278) will be in jeopardy.

The issue is Last Known Address, whereby the government sent notice to the wrong address.

It would not be a stretch of the imagination to see the supposed-liabilities affirmed by this decision disappear as well, as the statute of limitations for collection (CSED) has passed.

The supposed-liabilities were sustained when tax court dismissed on failure to state a claim upon which relief could be granted (effectively allowing no litigation on BLS estimates).

Those are similar issues as being raised in the criminal action regarding a theory of liability. Whether the government can turn supposed-donations into compensation for services.
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ASITStands wrote:
LPC wrote:Barringer has turned in his usual sterling performance as a barely-licensed lawyer, submitting briefs that the court publicly describes as "ambiguous" and "far from a model of clarity" and raising new arguments in a reply brief that the court refused to consider because the arguments were not raised in the initial brief.
Surely you understand that Lindsey wrote the brief and Jerry was an attorney in name only?

Initially, the government attempted to get the appeal dismissed because Lindsey was under monetary and filing sanctions, and as a prerequisite, an attorney was required to appear.

What was unknown by the government in the previous litigation was that Lindsey had appealed the CDP determination in both district and tax court. This is the latter appeal.

A similar scenario is presenting itself in the motion hearing, September 14 in Oklahoma City.

DOJ Attorney-in-Chief-for-the-lien-action, Robert Metcalf, has already suggested that if the Commissioner loses in tax court on the "revocation of certificate of release of federal tax lien" (Kim Norman signed lien notice), the lien action (4:08-cv-00278) will be in jeopardy.

The issue is Last Known Address, whereby the government sent notice to the wrong address.

It would not be a stretch of the imagination to see the supposed-liabilities affirmed by this decision disappear as well, as the statute of limitations for collection (CSED) has passed.

The supposed-liabilities were sustained when tax court dismissed on failure to state a claim upon which relief could be granted (effectively allowing no litigation on BLS estimates).

Those are similar issues as being raised in the criminal action regarding a theory of liability. Whether the government can turn supposed-donations into compensation for services.
Based upon our communications, I was wondering if you were going to enter into this thread.

In spite of a blood thirsty crowd (metaphor) who would likely enjoy watching Lindsey butchered to pieces (metaphor) I am glad to see your support for our mutual friend. :!:
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ASITStands wrote:
LPC wrote:Barringer has turned in his usual sterling performance as a barely-licensed lawyer, submitting briefs that the court publicly describes as "ambiguous" and "far from a model of clarity" and raising new arguments in a reply brief that the court refused to consider because the arguments were not raised in the initial brief.
Surely you understand that Lindsey wrote the brief and Jerry was an attorney in name only?
No, I don't understand that.

Barringer has shown himself to be quite capable of writing vague gibberish without anyone else's help.

And questions of "true" authorship might be of interest in literary debates, but not in law. Barringer signed the brief, so it's his.

Although I have to admit that Barringer might very well be an attorney in name only not just in this case, but in most cases.
ASITStands wrote:What was unknown by the government in the previous litigation was that Lindsey had appealed the CDP determination in both district and tax court. This is the latter appeal.
I don't know why you think that Springer's appeals are unknown to the government. According to the court, the government summarized Springer's previous litigation quite well.
ASITStands wrote:A similar scenario is presenting itself in the motion hearing, September 14 in Oklahoma City.
Not sure what you mean by "similar," because the legal and factual issues before the Tax Court are completely different from what was presented to the 10th Circuit.
ASITStands wrote:DOJ Attorney-in-Chief-for-the-lien-action, Robert Metcalf, has already suggested that if the Commissioner loses in tax court on the "revocation of certificate of release of federal tax lien" (Kim Norman signed lien notice), the lien action (4:08-cv-00278) will be in jeopardy.
A notice of federal tax lien is NOT a prerequisite to a civil action to enforce a federal tax lien, because the lien exists as soon as the assessment and demand for payment have been made. The lack of a valid notice of lien would only affect the rights of third parties, and so would at most affect only the validity of the lien against a purchaser for value, or the priority of the lien against other liens.
ASITStands wrote:The issue is Last Known Address, whereby the government sent notice to the wrong address.
Whether the IRS sent the notice to the wrong address is, of course, the issue in dispute, so stating as a matter of fact that the government sent the notice to the wrong address seems odd.
ASITStands wrote:It would not be a stretch of the imagination to see the supposed-liabilities affirmed by this decision disappear as well, as the statute of limitations for collection (CSED) has passed.
The statute of limitations on collections is tolled by various kinds of court actions, and Springer has been in court very often, so it is entirely possible that the statute of limitations to collect his taxes will not expire 10 years after assessment.
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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:In spite of a blood thirsty crowd (metaphor) who would likely enjoy watching Lindsey butchered to pieces (metaphor)
You mean "butchered to pieces again (metaphor)". Some people just aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Hope this helps.
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wserra wrote:
GoldandSilverEagles wrote:In spite of a blood thirsty crowd (metaphor) who would likely enjoy watching Lindsey butchered to pieces (metaphor)
You mean "butchered to pieces again (metaphor)". Some people just aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Hope this helps.
Yep. Smart enough to see that Lindsey has got the balls to press on when most in his position would quit. He's got tenacity. Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.

The income tax as written per Congress has chinks, and Lindsey will find them,
and when he does...

What I find interesting, is that most people indirectly identify themselves as "idiots" in not realizing and acknowledging the power an individual possesses in refusing to quit.

If ya keep shootin' long enough your gonna hit somethin'....La Duh!
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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:
wserra wrote:
GoldandSilverEagles wrote:In spite of a blood thirsty crowd (metaphor) who would likely enjoy watching Lindsey butchered to pieces (metaphor)
You mean "butchered to pieces again (metaphor)". Some people just aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Hope this helps.
Yep. Smart enough to see that Lindsey has got the balls to press on when most in his position would quit. He's got tenacity. Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.

The income tax as written per Congress has chinks, and Lindsey will find them,
and when he does...

What I find interesting, is that most people indirectly identify themselves as "idiots" in not realizing and acknowledging the power an individual possesses in refusing to quit.

If ya keep shootin' long enough your gonna hit somethin'....La Duh!
This statement is the functional equivalent of saying that if this idiot Springer kept jumping up and down in an attempt to repeal the law of gravity, he would eventually succeed.
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If ya keep shootin' long enough your gonna hit somethin'....La Duh!
But all Springer has managed to hit is his foot. Repeatedly.
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Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.
All the silly man has to do is look in the mirror.
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Prof wrote: This statement is the functional equivalent of saying that if this idiot Springer kept jumping up and down in an attempt to repeal the law of gravity, he would eventually succeed.
What, you don't believe in Yogic Flying?

Well, according to the MUoM, there are three stages of Yogic Flying. In stage one, the practitioner sort of hops around like a frog. In stage two, they can float in the air for minutes at a time, and in stage three they enjoy total, superman-like mastery of the skies, as well as invincibility, longevity, and so on. They claim that, as of today, only the first stage of Yogic Flying has been seen, investigated, and demonstrated.
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Prof wrote: This statement is the functional equivalent of saying that if this idiot Springer kept jumping up and down in an attempt to repeal the law of gravity, he would eventually succeed.
Dude, you are not nearly as smart as YOU THINK you are.

Gravity is a law of nature/the universe.

Statutes are laws of men. Man made laws.

You are making the mistake of comparing nature's laws with man-made law's. :roll: Your comparing apples with oranges. Dumb. :roll:

Your ridiculousness above is the "function equivalent" of an ice cube trying to put out a blazing furnace.

Bad comparison dude, bad comparison....
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Demosthenes wrote:
Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.
All the silly man has to do is look in the mirror.
And you are double silly for not realizing his the power of tenacity.

What folks like you fail to realize is that he's so-o persistent, he's eventually gonna find their 'Achilles heel'.

Perhaps that scares the lot of you.

It should.
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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.
All the silly man has to do is look in the mirror.
And you are double silly for not realizing his the power of tenacity.

What folks like you fail to realize is that he's so-o persistent, he's eventually gonna find their 'Achilles heel'.

Perhaps that scares the lot of you.

It should.
The only thing that Springer's 'tenacity' is going to get him is time in federal prison.
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Demosthenes wrote:
GoldandSilverEagles wrote:
Perhaps that scares the lot of you.

It should.
The only thing that Springer's 'tenacity' is going to get him is time in federal prison.
Which appears to be scaring GaSE - and it should.
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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:You are making the mistake of comparing nature's laws with man-made law's[sic]. :roll: Your[sic] comparing apples with oranges. Dumb. :roll: ....
Gotta' love it when semi-literate people call other people dumb...
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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:Smart enough to see that Lindsey has got the balls to press on when most in his position would quit. He's got tenacity. Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.

The income tax as written per Congress has chinks, and Lindsey will find them,
and when he does...

What I find interesting, is that most people indirectly identify themselves as "idiots" in not realizing and acknowledging the power an individual possesses in refusing to quit.

If ya keep shootin' long enough your gonna hit somethin'....La Duh!
Some of my favorite "Demotivators" posters:

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Stupidity: Quitters never win, winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.

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Losing: If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style.

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Incompetence: When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do.

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Futility: You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take, and, statistically speaking, 99% of the shots you do.

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Give Up: At some point, hanging in there just makes you look like an even bigger loser.
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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
Eventually he's going to find 'the weak link'.
All the silly man has to do is look in the mirror.
And you are double silly for not realizing his the power of tenacity.

What folks like you fail to realize is that he's so-o persistent, he's eventually gonna find their 'Achilles heel'.

Perhaps that scares the lot of you.

It should.
Both Don Quixote and Sisyphus were tenacious. Where did it get them?

It is only the true idiots who cling to the belief that the IRS has an Achilles heel, that there is some silver bullet or magic incantation which will make the income tax go away.

But what if they are correct -- that the tax laws have some fatal flaw? Within five days after that flaw is revealed in a court decision, fresh law will have been enacted to correct the problem.

GaSE clings to the belief that the truth is out there, somewhere. Unfortunately, he refuses to look in the most appropriate spots.
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Re: Frivolous IRS Arguments v. Springer

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GoldandSilverEagles wrote:The income tax as written per Congress has chinks, and Lindsey will find them,
and when he does...
No, the income tax law as written per Congress does not have "chinks" -- not the kind of chinks you are talking about. Lindsey Springer is a failure. There is nothing for Springer to "find."
If ya keep shootin' long enough your gonna hit somethin'....La Duh!
No, that is incorrect. You can shoot and shoot forever and ever and never hit anything.

Tax protesters have been "shooting" in federal courts since at least 1975. They have hit nothing except their own feet. They have worked to create a body of case law that makes it virtually impossible for them to now accomplish what they wanted to do -- to bring down the federal income tax through litigation. It was a hopeless task to try to do it that way in 1975, and it is even more hopeless today.
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