Appeals Brief for Cirino Gonzalez

[Judge Roy Bean]

...Wake up & make the USA what we thought it used to be~

Hasta luego!
:{ jmg

"Make the USA what 'we' thought it used to be?"

OK, so the basic concept is to get people to become aware of the need to make the USA into something they thought it used to be?

[ErsatzAnatchist]

Speaking of Bob Wolfe...isn't he due to get out of the clinker pretty soon here? I know his wife will be glad, here's hoping he gets on the straight and narrow.

11/16/2009. Talk about a happy Thanksgiving.

Did he make it out? I can't find him on the BOP inmate locator.

Keep him on a tight leash SheWolfe.

[cynicalflyer]

...Wake up & make the USA what we thought it used to be~

Hasta luego!
:{ jmg

"Make the USA what 'we' thought it used to be?"

OK, so the basic concept is to get people to become aware of the need to make the USA into something they thought it used to be?

The Onion did a remarkable parody on this subject just the other day.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ar ... efender_of

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

...

Mortensen said his admiration for the loose assemblage of vague half-notions he calls the Constitution has only grown over time. He believes that each detail he has pulled from thin air—from prohibitions on sodomy and flag-burning, to mandatory crackdowns on immigrants, to the right of citizens not to have their hard-earned income confiscated in the form of taxes—has contributed to making it the best framework for governance "since the Ten Commandments."

"And let's not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American," Mortensen said.

[wserra]

And the Gonzalez-family:morons continue to shoot themselves in various body parts. They really should aim for their heads, which are obviously not vital organs.

Joshua Gordon, the lawyer whose brief we discuss in this thread, has moved to withdraw. Why? Well, the NH Attorney Discipline Office "received a complaint purportedly filed on behalf of the defendant, Cirino Gonzalez. The complaint was filed by Jose Gonzalez, the defendant’s father". Good ol' Dad not being content with just mucking things up with the State, he follows with a complaint, this one in the form of a "special visitation by absolute ministerial right", to the First Circuit. He doesn't specify his grievance with Gordon, other than "BREACH OF FIDUCIARY DUTY, NEGLIGENCE and/or ABUSE OF PROCESS". It's not clear to me that the First Circuit clerk who docketed the latter realized that it was from Jose, who supposedly filed it under the authority of the attached notarized but unsigned power of attorney. All of these things have occurred in the last two weeks, and there is no action yet by the Circuit.

What a bunch of nitwits.

[Thule]

Daddy'O still has POA? That's just stoopid!

I'm going to make a guess at what's going on. Gordon is fed up with having Jose running around like a loose cannon, and is afraid it will hurt Renos case. Gordon tells Reno to sign a document stating that Sr. is not authorized to represent him. Reno refuses, and tells the story to Jose. Jose freaks out, and files his unspecified complaint. Gordon seizes the opportunity to get off case.

[Demosthenes]

Reno and Jose have been fixating on the fact that the Marshal's notes from Riley's and Wolffe's proffer meetings are so similar. They apparently have no clue what a structured interview is, or how law enforcement is trained to take notes. When the defense attorney refused to run with their ignorant analysis of the notes, Jose filed the complaint against the attorney in Reno's name.

Morons.

[LPC]

It's not clear to me that the First Circuit clerk who docketed the latter realized that it was from Jose, who supposedly filed it under the authority of the attached notarized but unsigned power of attorney.

I'm not sure that it's unsigned. The squiggle above "(name of principal)" might be Cirino's signature, in which case he signed on the wrong line, but that wouldn't necessarily invalidate the document.

(There's a better copy of the entire document on Demo's "cheatingfrenzy" web site.)

[bmielke]

1: How did he get a POA Notarized in Jail? Are there notaries there?
2: Don't you need two witnesses for a POA to be Valid? You do in Tennessee and I remember the same being true in Massachusetts, I assumed it was the same everywhere.

[wserra]

Reno and Jose have been fixating on the fact....

How do you know this stuff? Answer " " not permitted.

[wserra]

1: How did he get a POA Notarized in Jail? Are there notaries there?

In every jail I've been in, and that's quite a few.

2: Don't you need two witnesses for a POA to be Valid? You do in Tennessee and I remember the same being true in Massachusetts, I assumed it was the same everywhere.

It's not. In NY, for example, it just needs to be notarized.

[Demosthenes]

Reno and Jose have been fixating on the fact....

How do you know this stuff? Answer " " not permitted.

Tons of this kind of stuff on MySpace and Twitter:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =522932004

[Pottapaug1938]

Gonzalez's latest "gem" reminds me of a possibly apocryphal story about a Vermont Town Meeting, years ago, where the person having the floor was speaking, at great length, about something-or-other. A late arrival found a friend of his and sat down; and after indicating the speaker, asked what the man was talking about.

"He ain't told us, yet," was the reply.

[LPC]

2: Don't you need two witnesses for a POA to be Valid? You do in Tennessee and I remember the same being true in Massachusetts, I assumed it was the same everywhere.

It's not. In NY, for example, it just needs to be notarized.

In Pennsylvania, no witnesses are required for a power of attorney unless it is being signed by a third party at the direction of the principal, and it only needs to be notarized if it is used to deal with real property and so needs to be recorded.

Of course, without any witnesses or notarization, you may have trouble getting a financial institution to honor it, but that's a different issue than legal validity.

(Pennsylvania also does not require subscribing witnesses for wills, which is unique in the United States. You need to find two witnesses in order to probate the document but, once again, that's a slightly different problem than the validity of the document.)

[Pottapaug1938]

I love the part where the complaint states, in the first paragraph, "COMES NOW Cirino Gonzalez... who is unschooled in law...."

Hoo, boy -- talk about an understatement!

[The Observer]

In every jail I've been in, and that's quite a few.

Somehow I get the feeling that sentence should be reworded...

[wserra]

In every jail I've been in, and that's quite a few.

Somehow I get the feeling that sentence should be reworded...

It's literally true. I didn't say, "Every jail I've served time in" or "Every jail I've been sentenced to".

Marion, Leavenworth and Sing Sing are particularly impressive. I've never been to the Supermax (Florence, CO).

[grixit]

I love the part where the complaint states, in the first paragraph, "COMES NOW Cirino Gonzalez... who is unschooled in law...."

As i've said before, if you are unschooled in law, why are trying to teach the law to people?

[notorial dissent]

I still question whether the POA is valid, it certainly isn't properly signed, and unless the notary specifically went to where Rino was imprisoned and notarized it, and I'm not betting they will let them do that, this is the notary that daddy has been using all along, so I question whether it was ever actually even near Rino.

[Demosthenes]

It looks like the POA was signed in 2006, two years prior to Reno's incarceration.