Hendrickson aftermath

[Famspear]

Doreen responds to "jayjay":

......jayjay,

First, I used to pity scoundrels like you, wondering how one could look in the mirror and know that one lived like an animal in the woods (or under a rock), worse than just pragmatic, but unprincipled. As I've grown, I've become more cynical. It's no longer pity, but contempt.

That said, you're right that you may be removed, as you should be, though you're likely unprincipled enough to regain access so that you can again be"not here to stir the pot". Your removal, would not be for stirring the pot, but rather for your transparent effort to demoralize true patriots and derail their efforts to return our country to our Founders' vision. You may not be a Quatlooser (though I have my doubts), since they appear to openly root for Peter's downfall. You , on the other hand, put on the appearance of a caring supporter, while working for the opposition.

Next, nobody is going to follow Peter into his prison cell. Peter was selectively persecuted, I mean prosecuted, in order to discourage people from lawfully filing their tax returns. Had you read any of the briefs, you would have known that the Doj (sic) acknowledged that, and Rosen upheld their position.

Lastly, I reject your shallow and self-serving "very best" wishes to me and my family, and your contention that Peter couldn't "convince a jury about his beliefs/understandings/research". You were not in the courtroom everyday, as were some court watchers who cared about the future of our country, so you are ignorant of the proceedings and what, if anything, is implied by the results. I will not wish you the best, but "may your chains set lightly upon you".

http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2294

[Pottapaug1938]

Doreen responds to "jayjay":

......jayjay,

First, I used to pity scoundrels like you, wondering how one could look in the mirror and know that one lived like an animal in the woods (or under a rock), worse than just pragmatic, but unprincipled. As I've grown, I've become more cynical. It's no longer pity, but contempt.

That said, you're right that you may be removed, as you should be, though you're likely unprincipled enough to regain access so that you can again be"not here to stir the pot". Your removal, would not be for stirring the pot, but rather for your transparent effort to demoralize true patriots and derail their efforts to return our country to our Founders' vision. You may not be a Quatlooser (though I have my doubts), since they appear to openly root for Peter's downfall. You , on the other hand, put on the appearance of a caring supporter, while working for the opposition.

Next, nobody is going to follow Peter into his prison cell. Peter was selectively persecuted, I mean prosecuted, in order to discourage people from lawfully filing their tax returns. Had you read any of the briefs, you would have known that the Doj (sic) acknowledged that, and Rosen upheld their position.

Lastly, I reject your shallow and self-serving "very best" wishes to me and my family, and your contention that Peter couldn't "convince a jury about his beliefs/understandings/research". You were not in the courtroom everyday, as were some court watchers who cared about the future of our country, so you are ignorant of the proceedings and what, if anything, is implied by the results. I will not wish you the best, but "may your chains set lightly upon you".

http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2294

To boil it down to one sentence: "jayjay, you won't toe the Party Line, so I declare you an Unperson."

[Nikki]

Doreen:

I believe your name and signature were on the same tax returns as were Pete's.

Are you "pulling a Rose" and saying you want to be prosecuted, too?

You'd be better off keeping your mouth shut and not give DoJ any reason as to whom they choose to prosecute next.

Also, you'd be better off getting your financial affairs in order so you will be able to pay the back taxes, penalties, and interest without having your home sold out from under you.

[Evil Squirrel Overlord]

I am not a "Quatlooser". I am not here to stir the pot.

Make me feel I am on the forces of Evil. I like it.

[Famspear]

I am not a "Quatlooser". I am not here to stir the pot.

Make me feel I am on the forces of Evil. I like it.

Me am feel like forces of Evil too. Me am feel goooooood. Power!

But wait! Not real power! Me only pawn of International Bankers, government bureaucrats, socialists, Shape-Shifting Lizards, Queen Elizabeth, and left wing pinko commie bedwetters.

Oh well. No problem. Me feel good anyway. Bwahhhh-hhhaaahhhh-haahhhh!

And my wife says to me: "Cut down on the Diet Cokes. And when are you going to mow the grass?"

[wserra]

Make me feel I am on the forces of Evil.

Well, aren't you?

[Judge Roy Bean]

re: Doreen's delusional view of her situation:

If you don't have the facts, pound the law; if you don't have the law pound the facts; if you don't have the facts or the law, pound the Internet.

[Famspear]

It appears that "Pablo", one of the intellectual giants at lost horizons, is now trying to drum up business for himself.

See the first posting in this thread:

http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2299

And see:

http://www.taxreturnteam.com/

(a web site with which he may have some connection).

[bmielke]

It is my contention that if we begin dealing with the IRS from day one with the appellate court in mind, it's more likely we won't end up there. I'm not a lawyer, a paralegal, nor do I have any formal studies in law school; I'm just an informed citizen. But if I can be of any assistance to you in your battle for the rule of law, you can contact me at info@TaxReturnTeam.com, and I'll see what the Team can do for you. If we can help turn your situation around from being "dead in the water" to having a fighting chance, it would be a huge improvement for some warriors.

Unauthorized Practice of Law anyone? He's going to help you deal with the IRS with the appellate court in mind. Bring on the $20000 sanction victories!

[Gregg]

fromt he above link...

What We Do


We teach you.
We coach you.
We motivate you.
We provide moral support.
We help you to make the foundational, legal, and factual arguments that will help you prevail in a CDP hearing, Tax Court, and potentially, appellate court.
We review, evaluate, and make recommendations to improve your work.
We help you write your petitions for CDP, Tax Court, District Court, or Appellate Court.
We work closely with you to help you understand everything you will want to do and need to do.
We tell you the appropriate next steps (call the IRS, write a protest, request an appeal, etc.)
We provide meaningful direction to your activities with a definite goal in mind.
We work with you to show you how to properly defend yourself.
We help you fill out your papers and write your letters.
We provide weekly on-line training, free of charge.

so, how close is this to UPL?

[Quixote]

Pablo has been poaching on Pete's turf for a few weeks now. I'm surprised he hasn't been banned from LH. He makes a lot of promises for someone who has yet to win a single case.

[bmielke]

fromt he above link...

What We Do


We teach you.
We coach you.
We motivate you.
We provide moral support.
We help you to make the foundational, legal, and factual arguments that will help you prevail in a CDP hearing, Tax Court, and potentially, appellate court.
We review, evaluate, and make recommendations to improve your work.
We help you write your petitions for CDP, Tax Court, District Court, or Appellate Court.
We work closely with you to help you understand everything you will want to do and need to do.
We tell you the appropriate next steps (call the IRS, write a protest, request an appeal, etc.)
We provide meaningful direction to your activities with a definite goal in mind.
We work with you to show you how to properly defend yourself.
We help you fill out your papers and write your letters.
We provide weekly on-line training, free of charge.

so, how close is this to UPL?

That would not be unless they cross the line with their advice. I was just going off of hims LH post. Though depending on the state it could matter. For instance in Tennessee if you hold yourself out as providing legal services then it can be UPL. It all depends on how the AG is feeling. We have had a recent rash of cases agains Nortario Publicos but in most cases they did not call themselves lawyers.

Also the Legal Advice aspect would be enough in Tennessee to be popped for UPL again depending on the AG. They should be ok with IRS advice, but when you start strategizing for Tax Court and Appeals then you strart tip toeing around the line for UPL. If they tell a client what to do then you are crossing the line you can relate your expierences, and give information on the law, but not tell someone what they should do in their case. We had cases aginst We The People Pre Paid Legal Services because they were preparing documents for Pro Se Defendants. I think they even had a lawyer who was "Supervising" them.

[Gregg]

That would not be unless they cross the line with their advice. I was just going off of hims LH post. Though depending on the state it could matter. For instance in Tennessee if you hold yourself out as providing legal services then it can be UPL. It all depends on how the AG is feeling. We have had a recent rash of cases agains Nortario Publicos but in most cases they did not call themselves lawyers.

Also the Legal Advice aspect would be enough in Tennessee to be popped for UPL again depending on the AG. They should be ok with IRS advice, but when you start strategizing for Tax Court and Appeals then you strart tip toeing around the line for UPL. If they tell a client what to do then you are crossing the line you can relate your expierences, and give information on the law, but not tell someone what they should do in their case. We had cases aginst We The People Pre Paid Legal Services because they were preparing documents for Pro Se Defendants. I think they even had a lawyer who was "Supervising" them.

We posted at the same time before....and the thing I was keying onin my question was

We review, evaluate, and make recommendations to improve your work.
We help you write your petitions for CDP, Tax Court, District Court, or Appellate Court.

which looks a lot like what you're talking about....or I think it does

[bmielke]

Yes, now that I reread your question I agree, in Tennessee that would probably be UPL, if the AG wanted to go after it. Of note we do not have individual Income Tax and therefore state courts would not be flooded with this sort of crap so it is unlikely he would care. Budget cuts have hit everyone.

[Nikki]

Pablo has been poaching on Pete's turf for a few weeks now. I'm surprised he hasn't been banned from LH. He makes a lot of promises for someone who has yet to win a single case.

Pete, in all likelihood, is too busy with other matters to worry about policing the LoserHeads forum.

Perhaps he's even realized that, as part of his sentence, his whole site will be orderd shut down and doesn't give a rat's patootie about it.

[The Observer]

What We Do


We teach you.
We coach you.
We motivate you.
We provide moral support.
We help you to make the foundational, legal, and factual arguments that will help you prevail in a CDP hearing, Tax Court, and potentially, appellate court.
We review, evaluate, and make recommendations to improve your work.
We help you write your petitions for CDP, Tax Court, District Court, or Appellate Court.
We work closely with you to help you understand everything you will want to do and need to do.
We tell you the appropriate next steps (call the IRS, write a protest, request an appeal, etc.)
We provide meaningful direction to your activities with a definite goal in mind.
We work with you to show you how to properly defend yourself.
We help you fill out your papers and write your letters.
We provide weekly on-line training, free of charge.

What We Don't Do

We won't go into court with and stand by your side .
We won't be there when the judge wallops you with frivolous suit penalties for using our useless arguments.
We won't come out and say that you followed our instructions to the letter, rather we will say that you made a mistake.
We won't return your phone calls.
We won't give you a refund.
We won't remember you a year from now.

[bmielke]

What We Don't Do

We won't go into court with and stand by your side .
We won't be there when the judge wallops you with frivolous suit penalties for using our useless arguments.
We won't come out and say that you followed our instructions to the letter, rather we will say that you made a mistake.
We won't return your phone calls.
We won't give you a refund.
We won't remember you a year from now.

Ah but the court records last forever, and the penalities take years to pay off, their customers won't soon forget them.

[LPC]

What We Don't Do

We won't go into court with and stand by your side .
We won't be there when the judge wallops you with frivolous suit penalties for using our useless arguments.
We won't come out and say that you followed our instructions to the letter, rather we will say that you made a mistake.
We won't return your phone calls.
We won't give you a refund.
We won't remember you a year from now.

We don't have any code of ethics.
We don't stand by the advice we give, and don't have any liability for the bad results we create.
We don't have any malpractice insurance.

[Famspear]

I don't know whether this has been posted before, but here's a link to some more Blowhardiness, this on youtube.

Peter Hendrickson interview...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-dvHsAStcQ

(part 1 of 2)

[Famspear]

Just what the world needs..... another book by Peter Eric Hendrickson....

just announced by Doreen.....

http://www.losthorizons.com/WGRAM.htm