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Famspear wrote:Just what the world needs..... another book by Peter Eric Hendrickson....
A better title would be "Is Grandpa's Grandson Really a Moron?".
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A better title would be "Is Grandpa's Grandson Really a Moron?"
Yeah, but we have to wait and see whether or not he finds a way to sell out his adoring cultists once again to reduce his sentence.
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. wrote: Yeah, but we have to wait and see whether or not he finds a way to sell out his adoring cultists once again to reduce his sentence.
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Thule wrote:
Famspear wrote:Just what the world needs..... another book by Peter Eric Hendrickson....
A better title would be "Is Grandpa's Grandson Really a Moron?".
How about: "Are Three Generations of Imbeciles Enough?"

(Cf. Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927).)
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LPC wrote:
Thule wrote:
Famspear wrote:Just what the world needs..... another book by Peter Eric Hendrickson....
A better title would be "Is Grandpa's Grandson Really a Moron?".
How about: "Are Three Generations of Imbeciles Enough?"

(Cf. Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927).)
It looks like Petey just checked out of reality for good with that book. It just goes to show that once you go down the path of tax denying, you end up going off the deep-end.
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I have a few random thoughts...

first, on the UPL, I found this earlier post from Pablo which I think is pretty blatant..
You should always take advantage of your administrative remedies, and the 3219 is your right to invoke the jurisdiction of the Tax Court and take advantage of being able to make your case.


You SHOULD file a tax court petition. But, but, but, make sure you do it in a way that forces the burden onto the Commissioner. The Tax Return Team can help you do that. We are making great headway into making solid fact-based petitions that should survive an appellate appeal. Consider contacting us at Info@TaxReturnTeam.com. We'll try to help you get pointed in the right direction.



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Second, on Pete's new book...to me it's pretty obvious it's just a desperate need for cash and he had a pile of garbage around that until now was seen even by him as not fit for publication. He needs the money, he has the suckers, he made the move.

And am I the only one that has noticed that Pete himself is no longer leading the flock, Doreen is? Makes me wonder if he's trying to not antagonize the system or if Doreen feels left out and wants to get convicted of something herself....
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Gotta love the testimonials for the book:
"Many have attempted to research and sift the data, but your book and website alone... ...separate truth from error substantively and consistently. Your explanations are always cogent and clear... You have given me the tools to be upfront with this information to my acquaintances credibly and authoritatively. Thank you..."

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Of course one could look at that list as being another way that Pete has conveniently painted bull's-eyes on his customers and made it easier for the government to whittle down the list of the usual suspects.
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Famspear wrote:Just what the world needs..... another book by Peter Eric Hendrickson....

just announced by Doreen.....

http://www.losthorizons.com/WGRAM.htm
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Yet another of these basic pieces of intellectual equipment necessary to the productive consideration of government and law, and perhaps the most important, is an understanding that members of a polity are incapable of delegating any power to any government or other agent which they themselves do not individually possess to begin with. If you can’t do it, you can’t give someone else permission to do it...
from the Foreword to Was Grandpa Really a Moron? (Emphasis added.)

I hate to think what that says about Pete and Doreen's sex life.
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Judge Roy Bean wrote:
'Rave' reviews of the CTC garbage should boost sales of even more garbage: :roll:

"Many have attempted to research and sift the data, but your book and website alone... ...separate truth from error substantively and consistently..."

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Here's a little gem of wisdom on Lost Horizons I just had to share
Well, I thought I missed petitioning US Tax Court by just a few days. So, in reading the NOD, I found something interesting. From the 3219 (NOD):
Quote:
"...If you want to contest this determination in court before making any payment, you have until the Last Date to Petition Tax Court (90 days from the date of this letter or 150 days if this letter is addressed to you outside the United States) to file a petition with the United States Tax Court for a redetermination of the amount of your tax.

Ooooh Lookie here!!! They mailed the darn thing to one of the 50 union states which is CLEARLY outside the "United States"...so they've given me an extra 60 days (150 days) in which to file beyond the date they want me to believe (90 days). This means I have another 40+ days to get my Petition in.

My Petition will be in the mail within a week.

Woohoo. Let justice prevail!!!

Cheers
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I wonder if any of Hendrickson's lawyers have mentioned to him that maybe the continuing website and book publishing thing isn't such a good idea while the judge is thinking about what sentence to impose.

I mean, I didn't expect Hendrickson to rush out and close everything down, but to announce the publication of a new book which is publicized with the claim that the author "became the first American in history to recover EVERYTHING withheld from him, Social Security and Medicare 'contributions' included," is tantamount to thumbing his nose at the court.

Is he going to blame it on Doreen? I don't think that will laugh, because he will be too annoyed.

I would estimate that each month the website stays up adds at least a month to Hendrickson's sentence.
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LPC wrote:I wonder if any of Hendrickson's lawyers have mentioned to him that maybe the continuing website and book publishing thing isn't such a good idea while the judge is thinking about what sentence to impose.
They probably did. And I guess that made Petey run home, finish the last chapters, publish the book, run back to his lawyers and shout "You're not the boss of me!"
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... This means I have another 40+ days to get my Petition in. ...
1 - Standard Chief Counsel form letter: Motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction -- late filed petition.

2 - Court order for petritioner to show cause as to why petition should not be dismissed

3 - Petitioner's studied response carefully detailing his argument regarding the 50 states being foreign to the federal government.

4 - Chief Counsel enters into evidence the envelope Petitioner used to send document to Tax Court, clearly showing US postage stamp, cancelled by USPS.

5 - VICTORY -- dismissal sans sanctions.
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Gregg wrote:Here's a little gem of wisdom on Lost Horizons I just had to share
Well, I thought I missed petitioning US Tax Court by just a few days. So, in reading the NOD, I found something interesting. From the 3219 (NOD):
Quote:
"...If you want to contest this determination in court before making any payment, you have until the Last Date to Petition Tax Court (90 days from the date of this letter or 150 days if this letter is addressed to you outside the United States) to file a petition with the United States Tax Court for a redetermination of the amount of your tax.

Ooooh Lookie here!!! They mailed the darn thing to one of the 50 union states which is CLEARLY outside the "United States"...so they've given me an extra 60 days (150 days) in which to file beyond the date they want me to believe (90 days). This means I have another 40+ days to get my Petition in.

My Petition will be in the mail within a week.

Woohoo. Let justice prevail!!!

Cheers
Lemme know how that works out for ya, Sparky
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Nikki wrote:
... This means I have another 40+ days to get my Petition in. ...
1 - Standard Chief Counsel form letter: Motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction -- late filed petition.

2 - Court order for petritioner to show cause as to why petition should not be dismissed

3 - Petitioner's studied response carefully detailing his argument regarding the 50 states being foreign to the federal government.

4 - Chief Counsel enters into evidence the envelope Petitioner used to send document to Tax Court, clearly showing US postage stamp, cancelled by USPS.

5 - VICTORY -- dismissal sans sanctions.
I think you got the last part right.
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Bob Hurt has posted a lot of material including some comments purportedly made by Tommy K. Cryer on a variety of topics. Included are some Cryer comments on Peter Eric ("Blowhard") Hendrickson:
We don't need for people to go out and read law, draw erroneous conclusions and then confuse and mislead others. "Lay lawyers", as Pete Hendrickson likes to call himself, are just as dangerous and counterproductive as "lay surgeons". Look at how many people have been fined thousands of dollars or, worse, prosecuted and imprisoned for following his "lay advice". Look at what happened to him for drinking his own "lay kool-aid". Not only did he get the law wrong with his inclusio ab exclusio misapplication, he got the advice wrong, telling people to put themselves in harm's way, pushing them under the bus. How many of those people would still be working for the cause if it weren't for the adverse results of a lawyer wannabe's bad advice?
http://groups.google.com/group/lawmen/b ... 451d1396c4

Ouch!

More general comments from Tommy Cryer:
I wish I had time to teach everyone how to find the law and when to rely on and when to question authorities, but that would be about a five to ten year course, at a minimum. Why not ask a medical doctor to educate the public on how to discover a cure for cancer? Believe it or not, that would be more attainable a task.

The law is not like learning math. Math, physics, chemistry, etc., all work on laws that are rigid, unchanging and without exceptions. With the law there are different layers, every "rule" having exceptions and every exception having others. When an attorney graduates and passes the bar he knows more law than he ever will again, having just crammed three years of study up front for the bar exams. But even then he doesn't have a working knowledge of it.

It takes years of experience, research, trial and error for him to understand the human, political, sociological and psychological components in the system that administers that law. Although I don't necessarily advertise the fact, I make greater use of my education in psychology, sociology and political science than I do of my legal training.

Cases don't present a clear picture of the law any more than a car or a toaster presents a clear picture of steel or plastics. The law is only one of the raw materials that go into the processor we call our judicial system.

People need to be informed of what the law demands of them and to what the law entitles them, but that does not mean they all need to be able to do what lawyers do. We need to know when to go to the doctor and when time for a procedure comes we need to be informed of benefits and risks before deciding to consent to the procedure. But we do not need to understand all of the medical considerations to the point of being able to perform the procedure ourselves. We have doctors to evaluate our situation and to make recommendations for remedies, inform us of the risks and benefits and to then administer the treatment or conduct the operation.

[ . . . .]

This may sound patrician, but people need to leave lawyering to lawyers just as they leave medical treatment to doctors.....
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Today, on Lost Horizons, we learn that the juries and judges in all tax prosecutions are under the thumb of the IRS:
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What Pete's trial tells me is that the "justice" system is so overtly corrupt and/or influenced by the IRS so as to be worthless. The IRS is one of the very few entities that is effectively completely above the law. If I can hold threats of audits and fines and liens and levies against anyone, including judges and jurors, I can control the outcome of every case.

This is why our founders excluded judges from any "diminishment" during their office.

The Springer/Stilley trial produced a similar result. Despite the blatant violations of the PRA identified by Lindsey, they were found guilty.

As long as an "agent" of the IRS can threaten everyone, they control the outcome of all honest attempts to bring the truth to light.
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Interesting...reading that you might think that Mr. Cryer has his head on straight....
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Prof wrote:Today, on Lost Horizons, we learn that the juries and judges in all tax prosecutions are under the thumb of the IRS:
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Yep - it's that secret part of voir dire where the prosecutor warns the jury of the consequences of acquittal.
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