My whole question on bringing up the letter is to determine the best letter to write. Some say neutral, some say hold the fire to them. Ok, each sounds good but which one will produce the best results, If there is not gonna be any good results to begin with but it's for the future lawsuit, then which is gonna help in the long run. I checked with a federal prosecutor, they're good either way
Taking everything into account you have to know how its going to play out.badly, for you anyhow I don't know and I guess that is what I'm looking for. Does anyone know??? lots of people know, of course Pete won't let any of them post on LH
Shouldn't there be a game plan laid out for this thing.Never take a watch to prison, get soap on a rope, start a fight with the biggest badass on your first day, that way you either get immediate respect, or you get killed and that's better to do before you serve a bunch of time Haven't there been enough people who have gone thru this so that we all can know exactly how to handle it and how to proceed and plan. One last time, Sparky, no one, not a single one, has gone to court with any of Pete's ideas and won. NEVER. I saw someone the other day on your forum of morons mention a few people who have 'won" like Bannister etc... except y'all seem to be too thick to understand that those people had to pay the tax, they beat the criminal charges because they (unlike Pete who didn't know enough to shut his mouth) managed to convince a jury that they were too stupid to understand they had to pay income tax, in spite of being CPAs and in one case at least an Attorney. get it? THEY HAD TO PAY THE TAX
I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
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From the further adventures of "this nut flies airplanes?" we have this
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
Gregg wrote:And to support my last theory, I offer this, from "Thorn" who appears to be another Southwest pilot...The next avenue my friend, is to start looking at the people that butter our bread, and start holding them accountable for making erroneous allegations against us.
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
At losthorizons, Patrick ("every defeat proves we're right") Mooney talks about the evil bankers:
Here's where Mooney's train really goes off the rails, though:
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... a9c1#24866
Hey, Mooney, what evidence do you have that using the CTC scam wil "get the job done" if you have "the will to see it through"? Answer: None. You Wackadoosters have lost EVERY SINGLE COURT CASE.
Yeah, the Cracking the Code is a very sharp weapon; the problem for you scammers is that the users of the scam who "see it through" are always the ones who end up getting poked.
Yawwwn.....Milton Friedman exposes inflation as a hidden tax in his writings, too. I was lucky enough to have a freedom-loving economics professor back in college who made us read him.
People have tried to fight this kind of taxation. The 1800s witnessed many epic political battles over the right to control money. The private international bankers won the battle on three different occassions, the last time being 1913, when the Fed Reserve was enacted.
Was 1913 the "knockout punch"? It is certainly looking that way. I think America is trying to pick itself up off the canvas, but I don't have a great deal of confidence in its "cornermen", who are more than likely on the take to have their champ, "take a dive".
The bankers are really very powerful and sophisticated in their methods. They've been at this game for thousands of years. However, history is full of examples of nations and kingdoms beating these bankers back and driving them out of their countries.
Here's where Mooney's train really goes off the rails, though:
(bolding added)Will America have the political will to do the same? The great thing about CTC is, once you decide you want to fight, you have a very sharp weapon in hand, capable of getting the job done if you have the will to see it through.
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... a9c1#24866
Hey, Mooney, what evidence do you have that using the CTC scam wil "get the job done" if you have "the will to see it through"? Answer: None. You Wackadoosters have lost EVERY SINGLE COURT CASE.
Yeah, the Cracking the Code is a very sharp weapon; the problem for you scammers is that the users of the scam who "see it through" are always the ones who end up getting poked.
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Sounds like they're running with scissors.Patrick Mooney wrote:The great thing about CTC is, once you decide you want to fight, you have a very sharp weapon in hand,
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He could beat someone to death with a rubber chicken too, but the fact that ot can be done doesn't make it a great weapon.Famspear wrote:(bolding added)Will America have the political will to do the same? The great thing about CTC is, once you decide you want to fight, you have a very sharp weapon in hand, capable of getting the job done if you have the will to see it through.
Of course CtC will never work so maybe comparing ot to a rubber chicken isn't fair to rubber chickens.
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Did he really mean "bankers", or did he have a shorter word in mind?Patrick Mooney wrote:
The bankers are really very powerful and sophisticated in their methods. They've been at this game for thousands of years. However, history is full of examples of nations and kingdoms beating these bankers back and driving them out of their countries.
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
Bakers? Oh the evil they do with cupcakes...grixit wrote:Did he really mean "bankers", or did he have a shorter word in mind?Patrick Mooney wrote:
The bankers are really very powerful and sophisticated in their methods. They've been at this game for thousands of years. However, history is full of examples of nations and kingdoms beating these bankers back and driving them out of their countries.
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
No, he meant Bankers, haven't you every wondered how Switzerland came into being?grixit wrote:Did he really mean "bankers", or did he have a shorter word in mind?Patrick Mooney wrote:
The bankers are really very powerful and sophisticated in their methods. They've been at this game for thousands of years. However, history is full of examples of nations and kingdoms beating these bankers back and driving them out of their countries.
Actually I am quite sure that he meant something different, isn't that sort of thing the natural evolution of the rypical TP/TS? Or do Anti Semites evolve into a TP/TD? I think it is a chicken and egg kind of thing.
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Old timer TPs know that "bankers" is code for "Jews". Most of the newer recruits to the movement seem genuinely clueless that they're repeating anti-Semitic garbage, and they aren't smart enough or curious enough to learn the history of the movement they've joined.
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I did know that, I was trying to make a joke (no plans to quit the day job)Demosthenes wrote:Old timer TPs know that "bankers" is code for "Jews". Most of the newer recruits to the movement seem genuinely clueless that they're repeating anti-Semitic garbage, and they aren't smart enough or curious enough to learn the history of the movement they've joined.
As to Switzerland, I have read a theory that the rise of a country of backwoods farmers into a military powerhouse and banking center in the space of a century may have it's origins in it being a refuge for the Templars after Louis The Fair started rounding them up. Too big to get into here, but a very intriguing theory.
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
yeah I was making a joke too, I figured he was talking about Jews, I did not know what Demo posted. You would think that before you dumped thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars into something you would do a little research.Gregg wrote:I did know that, I was trying to make a joke (no plans to quit the day job)Demosthenes wrote:Old timer TPs know that "bankers" is code for "Jews". Most of the newer recruits to the movement seem genuinely clueless that they're repeating anti-Semitic garbage, and they aren't smart enough or curious enough to learn the history of the movement they've joined.
As to Switzerland, I have read a theory that the rise of a country of backwoods farmers into a military powerhouse and banking center in the space of a century may have it's origins in it being a refuge for the Templars after Louis The Fair started rounding them up. Too big to get into here, but a very intriguing theory.
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At losthorizons.com, user "f10a" writes:
Duh, yeah.......
Doreen Hendrickson responds:
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... ae60#24872
That's the spirit!
Ocean front property in Utah, anyone?
(bolding added).Well, I e-filed on the 15th, and revieved [sic] a full refund of my property today!
Thanks everyone for the support! I can only imagine they [the Internal Revenue Service] will be coming after it at some point!
Duh, yeah.......
Doreen Hendrickson responds:
(bolding added)Congrats on the refund. Please scan and send a copy to Peter. It's very important that everyone be aware that the refunds continue to be processed daily and that CtC is correct. No one should back down and continued evidence is one way to show folks that they shouldn't.
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... ae60#24872
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In 3 months time they will all say the problem was he E-Filed.
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Not Louis the Fair. Philip the Fair. Gotta keep the origins of the Illuminati straight.As to Switzerland, I have read a theory that the rise of a country of backwoods farmers into a military powerhouse and banking center in the space of a century may have it's origins in it being a refuge for the Templars after Louis The Fair started rounding them up. Too big to get into here, but a very intriguing theory.
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Of course you're right. Watching the Tudors is sucking knowledge from my brain....The Observer wrote:Not Louis the Fair. Philip the Fair. Gotta keep the origins of the Illuminati straight.As to Switzerland, I have read a theory that the rise of a country of backwoods farmers into a military powerhouse and banking center in the space of a century may have it's origins in it being a refuge for the Templars after Louis The Fair started rounding them up. Too big to get into here, but a very intriguing theory.
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Maybe you should stop thinking outside your brain...To initiate this lawsuit, the "tea party" or other tax movement could begin a petition drive to gather signatures supporting a 1st amendment address of grievances. In this drive to get signatures, people will be educated about inflation being a direct tax, that a direct tax imposed this way violates the US Constitution, that this conclusion is backed by authorities, by math and statistics, history, and more. The people will be educated in how the federal government has tried to circumvent the US Constitution by having a third party do the actual inflating of currency on its behalf to create the direct tax. This petition would direct the federal government to return the property that was taken unlawfully. You think only a handful of people would sign such a petition? This petition would act as a springboard for a lawsuit against the federal government and the federal reserve banking cartel, "People vs. UNITED STATES and the BANKING CARTEL".
Seriously, you folks need to start thinking "outside the box".
This guy sure is wanting to sue someone, but apprently can't get anyone to violate his rights, cause he's always wanting someone else to do the suing...
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par·a·noi·a /ˌpærəˈnɔɪə/ Show Spelled[par-uh-noi-uh]Gregg wrote:Maybe you should stop thinking outside your brain...Seriously, you folks need to start thinking "outside the box".
This guy sure is wanting to sue someone, but apprently can't get anyone to violate his rights, cause he's always wanting someone else to do the suing...
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
Imalawman wrote:Don't you think the LHer's will probably wait until Petey is actually incarcerated? That seems to be when they leave.Demosthenes wrote:They're all locked in a small room of their own making and freaking out. Eventually, they'll slink away one by one to search for a new guru.
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Doktor Avalanche wrote:Imalawman wrote:Don't you think the LHer's will probably wait until Petey is actually incarcerated? That seems to be when they leave.Demosthenes wrote:They're all locked in a small room of their own making and freaking out. Eventually, they'll slink away one by one to search for a new guru.
Evidence to date implies that they really are quite dumb, dumber than average in fact, and in some of their cases I'm not sure even the clanging of the cell door on ole prattlin' Petey will get the message across. Some people are just too dumb to learn.
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Re: I keep thinking that they can't be any dumber
Here's my nominee for dumb losthorizoner -- Gill Thompson ("freemanatlast"). His latest post:
Gill continues:
Gill continues:
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 93be#25019
Sick, sick, sick, sick, delusional.
The fact that you admit you believe it's about "freedom" illustrates part of the reason you are wrong about taxes, Gill. Think.I have read many posts in this Forum, some great, some good, some wise, some humorous, some non-meritous [sic]. This fight we say we believe in isn't only about TAXES, it is also about FREEDOM. Think about this long and hard, it is what our forefathers fought to preserve and uphold. Without this God Given INALIENABLE RIGHT, we are nothing. It is the premise of our being our existence, why we live.
Gill continues:
Agreed!The government is a creation of the PEOPLE. Government was created and instituted to serve the PEOPLE.
Gill, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you apparently don't know what is.Somewhere the roles became reversed, and now the PEOPLE serve the needs of the Government, whom they created. If this is not Socialistic or Communistic, then I don't know what is.
Gill continues:
No, Peter, like you and others of your ilk, allow your political beliefs to impair your ability to reason clearly.We make choices everday [sic], some good, some bad, some with rewards, and some with retrobution [sic]. But nevertheless we are able to make them.
When Pete Hendrickson wrote his book he made a choice, he was willing to sacrifice what ever it took to preserve that choice and Freedom at all costs, to ring out the TRUTH ABOUT TAXES.
The reader may mentally insert the applicable emoticon here.You already know the price he has and will continue to pay for making that choice.
All of you and me included now know the TRUTH which we cannot deny or be ashamed to admit, what are we going to do about it? Are you willing to pay the price to preserve your FREEDOM?
For the past 20 years I have been at battle with goliath, they say I now owe 135K, the number is not important, I have never received a refund, and have been to a CDPH, Tax Court, and tasted the wrath of the Government we created!!! I have shelled out more than 35K in Liens placed on my wages. But I have not given up the fight, because I know the TRUTH!!! and I cannot deny it.
(bolding added).When you give up, you are really giving up your FREEDOM!! something that many TRUE PATRIOTS have sacrificed their lives to preserve. You and I have a choice (FREEDOM) to make, what will it be, we can talk the talk as we do on this Forum, but are we willing to walk the walk, as Pete has? When we lose our FREEDOM we have nothing, we cease to exist, we cease to be FREE!!! Think about it, think long and hard, how much is it worth to you, your children, and their children. YOU MUST DECIDE and MAKE A CHOICE.
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http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 93be#25019
Sick, sick, sick, sick, delusional.
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