http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 7048#27048I saw the video. I think the idea that an individual is equivalent to a federal reserve bank may be a bit of a stretch....
I can't imagine why the IRS would want to get an I-9 from the employer or INS (or ICE or whatever they're calling themselves now.) If a taxpayer's immigration status matters, the IRS will just ask the taxpayer for primary documentation.Gregg wrote:And am I wrong in thinking that it would in fact be illegal for the IRS to get your I-9 from the employer or INS?
No, not exactly.Many well intentioned patriots fall into the mental trap of thinking the NOFTL is part of curing out the lien. It's not part of perfecting the lien at all, it's notice to third parties that the lien is already cured because the Treasury had first lien.
Famspear wrote:In response to having watched a video about the Federal Reserve Act, a link to which was posted at the losthorizons forum by "Harvester" (also known as Libre and Nationwide at losthorizons, and as "johnthetaxist" in other places in cyberspace), SkankBeat writes:
http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... 7048#27048I saw the video. I think the idea that an individual is equivalent to a federal reserve bank may be a bit of a stretch....
Wow! You mean there is actually a delusional idea out there somewhere that is so wacky that even SkankBeat is hesitant to believe it???!!!??
Harvester, we are impressed!
Neurotics build castles in the air, psychotics live in them and psychiatrist collect the rent.David Merrill wrote:Gregg is becoming neurotic in his declaration I am mentally ill.
I am thankful for the voices in my head for providing a new playground to replace SuiJurisClub! The more I look at it, the more real it seems!!
Regards,
David Merrill.
David Merrill wrote:Gregg is becoming neurotic in his declaration I am mentally ill.
I am thankful for the voices in my head for providing a new playground to replace SuiJurisClub! The more I look at it, the more real it seems!!
Regards,
David Merrill.
Skank is actually a kind of dance.Pantherphil wrote:Could someone enlighten me whether Skankbeat has been beaten by skanks or is a beater of skanks or is the developer of a new form of MTV dance music? His handle is ambiguous.
Gregg wrote:David Merrill wrote:Gregg is becoming neurotic in his declaration I am mentally ill.
I am thankful for the voices in my head for providing a new playground to replace SuiJurisClub! The more I look at it, the more real it seems!!
Regards,
David Merrill.
So you're saying I'm neurotic because I use your real name, and you're not because you refuse to admit your real name is Van Pelt?
You have been declared mentally ill by people medically qualified to say so, you have been declared incompetent to stand trial by a court of law. So I really can't hold you as responsible as a normal person for not pointing out those two facts to anyone you give pseudo legal advice to, but don't you think before you start trying to get someone else to ruin their life you ought to tell them how much you have ruined your own? Before you tell someone some screwed up theory on how to avoid the income tax shouldn't you mention that you don't pay income tax because your only income is Social Security Disability Payments for mental illness? As I said, in your condition I don't expect you to tell people, but when I can, I try to bring it up so that before people who CAN be convicted in a court of law, because they are NOT incompetent to stand trial for the advice you give them, know that you haven't exactly had a lot of success yourself with any of your legal processes.
Get help David, before you hurt your self or someone else.
You're knocking them dead, David! Got any more humor for us?David Merrill wrote:
No Gregg. You missed the image there - what I am showing people is that you have become obsessed. And you are incorrect.
Regards,
David Merrill. (Stage Name)
Fixed it for you.
P.S. I think I will agree with the chief district judge when I paid for transcripts in lawful money. He spells my name David Merrill. DAVID MERRILL is the constructive trust for the settlement.
Famspear wrote:Harvester (Libre) provided this quote:
No, not exactly.Many well intentioned patriots fall into the mental trap of thinking the NOFTL is part of curing out the lien. It's not part of perfecting the lien at all, it's notice to third parties that the lien is already cured because the Treasury had first lien.
The lien is indeed effective as between the IRS and the taxpayer as of the date of assessment by the IRS -- which date is generally well before the date on which the Notice is issued and filed.
The purpose of the filing of the Notice IS INDEED to "perfect" this already existing lien -- as between the U.S. Treasury and various third party creditors. The perfection of the tax lien helps to establish its priority as between and among all the secured creditors putatively having an interest in the taxpayer's property that is subject to the lien.
Further, neither the assessment (which provides the effective date of the creation of the lien) nor the perfection of the lien (by filing the Notice) necessarily establishes that the Treasury has a "first" lien. The priority (first lien, second lien, third lien) depends on various other factors. Even if the IRS has perfected the tax lien (by filing the Notice in the proper place), certain prior liens AND certain subsequent liens may still have priority over the federal tax lien. See, e.g., Internal Revenue Code section 6323.
Not exactly. The purpose of the filing of the Notice of Federal Tax Lien is to perfect the lien and establish its priority. It is the filing of the notice that effects perfection.David Merrill wrote:The purpose of the NOFTL is to notify third parties that the lien is perfected.
No, David. The process of establishing the priority of the federal tax lien has nothing to do with your paycheck or the endorsement of your paycheck.The reason that you can presume the Treasury has first lien is that process starts with your first paycheck that you endorse. It is not until you understand the redemption of lawful money that you begin removing that presumption of first lien and for using private credit from the Fed.
No, David.If you use the Fed's private credit to "buy" your things, then the Treasury has first lien on your things.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Thank you David.David Merrill wrote:Yes it does. The backside of the paycheck is a naked contract. Endorsement is the bond behind the extra currency created by elastic currency and fractional lending.
As I've been saying for a while, David doesn't believe any of his "gibberish". He's a comedian. His "gibberish" is just a part of his act.. wrote:Hey, that Van Pelt even uttered the phrase "the purpose of the NOFTL is to notify third parties that the lien is perfected" is progress of a sort.
3 or 4 years ago, he used to argue that the NFTL was the lien and gibber on about some miscellaneous verbiage on the back of the form. It was pointed out to him at least 100 times that the lien arises by statute and the notice merely perfected the lien and protected the IRS to the extent that it can with regard to 3rd parties. He always rejected that fact.
Now, in a moment of semi-lucidity he skips his previous gibberish and goes directly to his word-salad about "redemption of lawful money" and "private credit" and the Fed. So, that's something. The guy isn't totally ineducable, it's just going to take longer than any of us will live.
