From: Dan & Sam (God's Property Radio)
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014
Transcription by Robert Baty
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Dan & Sam
We want to clear some things up.
First, let me address what's going on with the challenge from Kent Hovind to Peter Reilly that we issued.
First of all, we were in the heat of the moment when we issued that challenge.
Emotions were running a little bit high. We had just spoken with Kent for what, 2 hours.
I didn't have all my facts straight.
For one, I need to apologize to Peter because you weren't posting an article every day. I was exaggerating. I just didn't have all my facts. After looking more thoroughly at the articles I have a little bit of a different opinion of the situation than I did then.
So, I apologize; number 1, for my tone toward Peter Reilly. I think I just wasn't doing that in love.
I don't agree with Peter Reilly on a lot of different things. I do think it unfortunate that a lot of what he says is fairly negative towards Kent.
I do appreciate that someone is paying attention to Kent even if the bulk of it isn't positive.
I do want to point out about Peter's articles, even though we have two very different viewpoints on Kent.
From Peter's viewpoint and the way, his understanding, he is trying to be balanced and fair when addressing Kent. He really is. If you look at it from his perspective that is what he is trying to do.
Also, we want to say a little about, real quick, a Mr. Robert, is it Baty, he keeps posting on our stuff. He put us in contact with Peter, so thank you Robert for doing that. We appreciate that.
Robert also does not agree with our view on Kent. I'm sure we'll hear some comments from him on this. That's OK.
Robert, if you ever want to talk or have questions, write us at
GodsPropertyRadio@gmail.com and we'll talk or if we don't have the answers for you we will put you in contact with someone who will answer your questions more thoroughly.
And on that note, when we issued that challenge we hadn't really talked about it and discussed it with anyone. We hadn't really thought about what we were doing with that challenge.
It's a fair challenge and it needs to move forward.
After we issued it we thought about it, we talked about it, and we were actually getting ready to set it up with Peter. I had spoken with Peter on the phone and actually with his tech people.
We sought some counsel from some friends of ours and we just thought, you know, whoever is going to do this needs to be someone who really understands what they are talking about.
And we didn't know who could do that, but we knew it wasn't us to facilitate it.
So, we emailed Peter and told him we didn't feel it was wise for us to move forward. Well the day after I sent that message God provided someone to do that...DocFog, or he goes by Ernie, will be facilitating that conversation between Kent and Peter Reilly, or I believe it may be Peter Reilly.
There is a chance that somebody else; Peter may be having someone else discuss things with Kent.
Peter and Ernie will be working that out.
Ernie has a very good grasp of Kent's legal situation and Kent's stance on things. So, if Peter has a question for the host Ernie will be able to handle that in a much more informed way than Sam and I can.
So, we are thankful for Ernie to be taking that over. We will be linking that to you when that takes place so you all can hear it. It should be very good. I am really looking forward to it. I actually hope it does happen. I want to see it happen. I think that it will. At the same time I am, like, it would have been kinda cool to do it ourselves, but this is definitely the better way to go about it.
It will provide a better balance and a more informed conversation than Sam and I could facilitate, we feel, so we hope you guys will be paying close attention and listening for that.
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We know that a lot of you guys have been waiting for a response to Peter's blog and articles and, what we are getting at is we have been meaning to do this. We haven't had the time to put it out; for Sam and I to get together and do this.
So, we are sorry that the response was delayed everyone.
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So, again, my apologies to Peter for not coming through earlier, for not being clear on everything, and I take back what I did say because I was not accurate in what I was saying. After reading your articles a little more in depth you have been pretty fair in some regards to Kent and I do appreciate the fact you are at least covering it. In the end, you bash Kent . I guess it is at least good to get some attention to the case because it does deserve some recognition. Dan and I are certainly on the opposite spectrum from where you are on a legal stance.
I think that pretty much wraps up what we've got to say.
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Alright everyone, welcome back again.
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Kent Hovind to me is a really big deal. And so I thought of Kent, and I thought, am I on Kent's side right now. Like, if Kent were to show up and just read the Sermon on the Mount, in front of me, would that be enough for me?
Like, am I just a Hovind supporter, or is Christ at the top?
To keep things in perspective, I would say, this fight that is going on legally with Kent and Paul J Hansen I feel, definitely, an allegiance to them. But, over them, I feel allegiance to Christ.
I do believe they are in the right. Like, I don't know about you, Dan.
I do agree. I think they are in the right. I think that the federal government is ignoring the law and the rules that they are subject to.
You guys are going to be hearing stuff in another coin-toss that is going to be coming up. A bunch more. These are things Sam and I didn't even know until about a week and a half ago.
And it blew our minds. You guys are going to listen to this and go "no way", it's not possible. Look into it. Yep, look into it; keep an open mind.
I can tell we are going to get more haters and trolls coming our way. If you are out there, and you wanna hate, look guys, we're not here to fight a war with you.
I wanna talk to you.
I wanna have an honest conversation with you.
You may not agree with what we say, with what we believe, that's fine, but be willing to hear us, to let us get you the answers or put you in touch with people who do have the answers.
If you are looking to fight just to fight, we are not interested in that. If you are actually looking for answers, please write us. We're looking to help.
If it comes down to "you're our enemy", "our adversary", we are going to try to come at this with love, because I think we are going to get a lot of heat from these coin-tosses that are coming up.
On the whole enemy thing, guys, you are not our enemy. No.
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The people in government are deceived just like everyone else.
We don't have a problem with you guys.
We're looking to share the truth and help.
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We're going to be talking about Kent Hovind, a brief history of who he is, his ministry, what his stance was legally before all this happened. Where he believes his legal standing was and how he did things. And then we are going to talk about the fruit we have seen from Kent.
We're also going to be talking about what our response should be to Kent. Whether or not you agree with him as a Christian, biblically, what should our response be? We're going to talk about that.
Keep and open mind and let the Lord lead you.
I think that pretty much wraps us up Sam, don't you think?
Yeah, I just wanna say for anybody out there with different opinions on this whole thing, I think it's just more important for Dan and I to keep you in our prayers.
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You wanna just close on a little prayer here.
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Alright, let's just close in a word of prayer here.
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In addition to Paul and Kent Lord, I just want to lift up to you Peter Reilly and Robert Baty, just Lord, be with these gentlemen and work miracles in their lives; show them how real you are Lord. Soften their heart. Bring them home to you Lord. Lord, I just want to say thank you for the opportunity to speak with Kent, to become involved in his life in a small way Lord. You know from the beginning of this podcast you have laid it on Sam's and my hearts to reestablish the ministry of Kent Hovind. We thank you for the opportunity to be used, to be used in this way and for whatever little piece we have to play in it; we thank you that you have chosen us to be a part of it.
God, I pray that you would just bring the justice system to account. Lord, that you would bring in people that would force them to recognize the law and do what is just and true and to render a truthful verdict and to release Kent and Paul and Father I pray that Kent's original case is overturned, that you would provide through, for him, the reparations that need to be paid to him and to Jo. God, I pray that you would bless that ministry. Should you overturn that, Lord. Just reestablish Kent's ministry ten fold for you, Lord, and use it to reach so many people with the gospel of creation for your Son.
Father, I also want to lift up Peter and Robert. God, as Sam said, just soften their hearts, Lord. Show them your love, your truth. God, help them to see beyond what they are looking at..that you are there, you care, and that you came to this earth to, yes, save Kent Hovind and Sam and me, but you came to personally, intentionally to save THEM. God, just touch them with that truth, Lord, and shake the very foundation of their lives, Lord, that they might know you, Lord, in all of your glory.
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