Kent Hovind Since Sept 2013

[Paths of the Sea]

THOMAS S. KEITH
Florida Bar No. 0243078
Attorney for Defendant

Looks like Thomas Keith is the Branch Chief for the Pensacola Public Defender office:

http://fln.fd.org/pensacola.htm

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[Paths of the Sea]

I wasn't aware he had filed anything beyond
the lis pendens other than his wiki suits, so
again, he may not have been telling the whole
tale yet again.

Time will tell regarding any new charges beyond the criminal contempt charge currently set for trial on September 8, 2014.

However, I do note that a number of the allegations in Kent's original criminal indictment, for which Kent was convicted and is currently serving time, having to do with his "obstruction of justice" can be aptly applied to such antics as Kent Hovind has engaged in while incarcerated, including filing what may be characterized as frivolous/false lawsuits and complaints against those involved in his prosecution including attorneys and judges.

I'm still curious about how Kent's "clandestine" telephone interviews which have been broadcast over YouTube might figure in to things. Such activities appear to have violated Bureau of Prison rules.

Who knows, we may find out that Kent has been up to a lot more than we might have ever imagined.

It might also be interesting to see if any 3rd parties are also implicated in whatever else might be in the works; Kent has certainly had numerous "accomplices" in his antics.

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[Paths of the Sea]

Looks like Hovind's Criminal Contempt Case
May Be Continued,
Maybe Not!

(I disagree with the public defender's claim that Hovind's appeal of the contempt order needs to be resolved before proceeding. We will see, perhaps, how that goes over with the Court which now needs to act on the motion. - RLBaty)

Filed Friday, August 22, 2014

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
PENSACOLA DIVISION

Case No. 3:14mc53/MCR

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,

vs.

KENT E. HOVIND,
Defendant.

DEFENDANT’S UNOPPOSED MOTION TO CONTINUE TRIAL DATE

COMES NOW the defendant, KENT E. HOVIND, by and through his undersigned
attorney, and moves to continue the trial date. In support of this motion, the defendant states:

1. On July 8, 2014, the Court entered its Notice of Criminal Contempt Proceedings and
Show Cause Order which, among other things, scheduled a jury trial for September 8, 2014.

2. The defendant made his initial appearance in this case on August 15, 2014, at which
the Office of the Federal Public Defender was appointed to represent him. On August 20, 2014,
undersigned counsel (counsel) filed his notice of appearance.

3. Counsel has met with the defendant and reviewed records and documents in the court
files in the instant case and the related case of 3:06cr83. He has also requested discovery from
the government, but has not yet received it as he prepares this motion.

4. With a trial date of September 8th, counsel will have very limited time to prepare.
Counsel believes, and the defendant agrees, that additional time is needed to adequately prepare for trial.

In addition to needing additional time to prepare, the defendant pro se has appealed the Court’s related order in 3:06cr83 (doc. 476), filed July 8, 2014, which initiated the charging
Notice in the instant case (docs. 481, 484).

That appeal is still pending and would appear to need to be resolved prior to any trial in the instant case because it is challenging the order that gives rise to the instant case.

5. Counsel has conferred with Assistant U.S. Attorney Tiffany Eggers and she does not
oppose this motion, but wants it to be known that she is unavailable for a trial or any court
proceedings in this case from September 29th through October 10th.

WHEREFORE, the defendant moves to continue his trial date.

/s/ Thomas S. Keith
THOMAS S. KEITH
Florida Bar No. 0243078
Attorney for Defendant
3 W. Garden Street, Suite 200
Pensacola, FL 32502

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[Paths of the Sea]

Kent Hovind Delays Criminal Contempt Trial!

However, his attempt to appeal to the 11th Circuit will not be allowed to delay the proceedings (as earlier prophesied by one Quatloosian).

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(1)

Filed August 26, 2014

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
PENSACOLA DIVISION

CASE NO. 3:14mc53/MCR/EMT

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

v.

KENT E. HOVIND

ORDER RESCHEDULING TRIAL FOR NOVEMBER 3, 2014

This matter is before the Court on Defendant’s Unopposed Motion to Continue Trial Date. (Doc. 10).

Defendant requests additional time to adequately prepare for trial.
Defendant also notes his pending appeal of the Court’s related order in 3:06cr83, which initiated the charging notice in the instant case, suggesting resolution of that appeal is necessary prior to a trial because it is challenging the order that gives rise to the instant case.

Defendant’s appeal of the Court’s non-final order to show cause in 3:06cr83 does not divest the Court of jurisdiction over this matter. (Footnote 1)

Determining whether the facts are sufficient to demonstrate a willful violation of a reasonably specific order to establish
criminal contempt is the raison d’être of the criminal contempt proceeding.

Upon consideration of Defendant’s motion for continuance, the Court finds that a reasonable delay of the trial from September 8, 2014, until November 3, 2014, is appropriate, in order to allow adequate time to prepare for trial. The ends of justice that
will be served by granting this continuance outweigh the interest of the public and the Defendant in a more speedy trial.

Footnote 1

See, e.g., U.S. v. Hitchmon, 602 F.2d 689, 694
(5th Cir. 1979) (en banc) (“We are persuaded that
filing a notice of appeal from a nonappealable order
should not divest the district court of jurisdiction
and that the reasoning of the cases that so hold is
sound. The contrary rule leaves the court powerless
to prevent intentional dilatory tactics, forecloses
without remedy the nonappealing party’s right to
continue trial court jurisdiction, and inhibits the
smooth and efficient functioning of the judicial
process.”), superseded by statute on other grounds
as recognized in U.S. v. Martinez, 763 F.2d 1297
(11th Cir. 1985).

Accordingly, Defendant’s Unopposed Motion to Continue Trial Date (doc. 10) is GRANTED.

The Clerk shall re-notice the trial for Monday, November 3, 2014.

SO ORDERED this 26th day of August, 2014.

s/ M. Casey Rodgers
M. CASEY RODGERS
CHIEF UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE

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(2)

Filed August 26, 2014

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
PENSACOLA DIVISION

CASE NO. 3:14mc53MCR

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

VS

KENT E. HOVIND

AMENDED NOTICE

TAKE NOTICE that the proceeding in this case has been continued as indicated below:

Place: United States Courthouse
One North Palafox Street
Pensacola, Florida 32502-5658
Room No: Courtroom 5

New Date: November 3, 2014
Previous Date: September 8, 2014

New Time: 8:00am
Previous Time: 8:00am

Type of Proceeding: Attorney Conference/Jury Selection/Jury Trial before the
Honorable M. Casey Rodgers, Chief Judge

NOTE:

If you or any party, witness or attorney in this matter has a disability that requires special accommodation, such as a hearing impairment that requires a sign-language interpreter or a wheelchair restriction that requires ramp access, please contact the Clerk’s office at least one week prior to the hearing (or as soon as possible) so arrangements can be made.

August 26, 2014

WILLIAM M. McCOOL
CLERK OF COURT
s/ Mary Maloy

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[AndyK]

...

If you or any party, witness or attorney in this matter has a disability that requires special accommodation, such as a hearing impairment that requires a sign-language interpreter or a wheelchair restriction that requires ramp access, please contact the Clerk’s office at least one week prior to the hearing (or as soon as possible) so arrangements can be made.

...

Does Hovind being batshit crazy count as a disability requiring accommodation?

[Paths of the Sea]

Does Hovind being batshit crazy count as a
disability requiring accommodation?

Given the additional time to develop the case, it would be interesting if either the Government on Hovind's public defender requests a mental evaluation.

It could possibly be justified. Some may recall how Schiff's sidekick tried to use his Narcissistic Personality Disorder as a defense. I think Kent could be diagnosed with the same disorder; even if it didn't help his defense. He might have other mental issues as well which could help his defense or minimize the sentence if found guilty.

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[notorial dissent]

I'm more curious as to how long the honeymoon will last between Kent and his latest victim PD. If he runs true to form, he'll let the PD do all sorts of work between now and the trial, and then sometime shortly beforehand he'll start to go all sovict whacko again demanding that the PD do a bunch of things he can't legally do, and totally mess things up and dismiss him. He has two whole months get all his plans organized now and to torment the PD.

[Paths of the Sea]

I'm more curious as to how long the honeymoon will last between Kent and his latest victim PD. If he runs true to form, he'll let the PD do all sorts of work between now and the trial, and then sometime shortly beforehand he'll start to go all sovict whacko again demanding that the PD do a bunch of things he can't legally do, and totally mess things up and dismiss him. He has two whole months get all his plans organized now and to torment the PD.

While that is one scenario that might reasonably be expected, if it plays out that way it will also be an indication that Kent and Jo aren't really all that keen on getting back together.

If Kent and Jo are serious about getting back together sooner rather than later, Kent will bring forth works meet for repentance and work with his public defender to minimize the damage done as a result of his contemptuous antics.

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[Paths of the Sea]

Does this have something to do with Kent Hovind!
Does it have something to do with that error that was noted in one of the documents filed in the Hovind case (i.e., the reference to a grand jury proceeding)?

Paul John Hansen subpoena for Pensacola federal grand jury!

See:

http://www.pauljjhansen.com/?p=1240

(excerpts)

Grand Jury Subpoena, an Invite, or Order?
Hansen Challenged

Posted on August 26, 2014
by Paul John Hansen

Grand Jury Subpoena, an Invite, or Order?
Hansen Challenged

I received a subpoina to appear in Florida, I challenged the request as to be an order supported by written law or just a request.

Apparently they want to see if I filed documents under an alias name.

Now I live in Nebraska, and besides why would I want to volunteer anything to the Grand Jury. I suspect the 5th Amendment applies.

I’ll post if they decide to press a demand by court order. It has been a weeks now and no swat team thus far.

Below are Emails between Gand Jury Employees and Hansen:

Travel to Pensacola, FL, for Grand Jury appearance on August 19, 2014
Inbox
x

Busbee, Gretchen (USAFLN) Gretchen.Busbee@usdoj.gov via hotmail.com
Aug 12

to pauljjhansen
August 12, 2014

Good afternoon Mr. Hansen -

Per my previous voicemail messages left on Monday, August 11th and today, Tuesday, August 12th, I have been informed that you were served with federal grand jury subpoena number 19424 to appear at the U.S. District Courthouse on August 19, 2014, at 9:00am in Pensacola, Florida. The instructions to the grand jury subpoena instructed you to contact me within 48 hours of being served so that prepaid flight and lodging accommodations could be made for you. Please contact me immediately so that those travel arrangements can be made at no cost to you. I can be reached via this email, my direct dial at 850-444-4069 or my cell phone number at 850-554-5991.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Gretchen P. Busbee
Victim Witness Specialist
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Northern District of Florida
21 E. Garden Street, Suite 400
Pensacola, FL 32502
Tel: 850-444-4000

Busbee, Gretchen (USAFLN) Gretchen.Busbee@usdoj.gov via hotmail.com
Aug 13

to pauljjhansen, pauljjhansen
Mr. Hansen

Below is the original email that was sent yesterday afternoon. Per your text message I am sending it again since you prefer to communicate via email. I need the following information in order to make your travel arrangements into Pensacola:

Full name as reflected on photo id (including any middle name or any suffix)

Airport
Seat preference
DOB

Thank you and please let me know if you have any questions.
Paul Hansen <pauljjjjhansen@gmail.com>
Attachments Aug 13

to Gretchen
See attached.

In no way am I refusing any duty associated with applicable law noticed upon me.
Ink signed were sent to the listed recipients.
No response has yet beed received.

to me, Gretchen
Mr. Hansen,

As you know, Victim Witness Specialist Gretchen Busbee has left you two voicemails and communicated directly with you via email as shown below. Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum # 19424 was served upon you requiring you to appear before the Grand Jury on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 9:00 am. (Another copy of the subpoena is attached hereto for you.) It is imperative that you immediately communicate with Ms. Busbee directly so she can make your travel arrangements. Your failure to communicate with Ms. Busbee will prevent her from being able to make the necessary travel for you. However, please understand that your failure to communicate with Ms. Busbee will not relieve you of the requirement that you appear and comply with the subpoena. Therefore, please do not wait any longer and contact Ms. Busbee as she has previously requested.

Thank you and good day,

Tiffany H. Eggers
Assistant U.S. Attorney
U.S. Attorney’s Office, NDFL
21 E. Garden Street, Ste. 400
Pensacola, Florida 32502

From: Paul Hansen <pauljjjjhansen@gmail.com>
Date: August 13, 2014 at 10:43:12 AM CDT
To: “Busbee, Gretchen (USAFLN)” <Gretchen.Busbee@usdoj.gov>
Subject: Re: Travel to Pensacola, FL, for Grand Jury appearance on August 19, 2014
Attachments area
Preview attachment Hansen Paul John GJ Subpoena HANDWRITING SAMPLE FINGERPRINTS (19424) 8-19-14 W ATTACHMENT (3).pdf
PDF
Hansen Paul John GJ Subpoena HANDWRITING SAMPLE FINGERPRINTS (19424) 8-19-14 W ATTACHMENT (3).pdf

Paul Hansen <pauljjjjhansen@gmail.com>
Aug 14

to Tiffany, Gretchen

I have requested, in honor, the written law that the court clerk relies upon to impose the subject duty upon me to appear. Is this a communication that you have dishonored my request.
Eggers, Tiffany (USAFLN)
Aug 14

to me, Gretchen
Mr. Hansen,

You have been lawfully served with the below identified subpoena requiring your appearance. If you desire legal advice concerning the laws in which the subpoena are based, I suggest you obtain legal counsel.

Tiffany H. Eggers
Assistant U.S. Attorney
U.S. Attorney’s Office, NDFL
21 E. Garden Street, Ste. 400
Pensacola, Florida 32502
850-444-4000 p
850-434-9050 f

From: Paul Hansen [mailto:pauljjjjhansen@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:34 PM
To: Eggers, Tiffany (USAFLN)
Cc: Busbee, Gretchen (USAFLN)
Paul Hansen <pauljjjjhansen@gmail.com>
Aug 14

to Tiffany
No notice of written law to appear will result in no act of consent to appear.

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See also earlier postings at:

http://www.pauljjhansen.com/?p=1228

http://www.pauljjhansen.com/?p=1224

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[Samphire]

Who could doubt that it was the Good Lord who deliberately brought these two nincompoops to live together in the same prison cell?

If there was anyone in the entire United States who could be trusted to run Kent's "Legal Defence Fund" and advise him on the law surely it must be a man who refuses to acknowledge his own legal status or pay any sort of taxes, who defrauds his own mentally defective tenants, fails to maintain his rented properties in a habitable state, owes $1,000s in fines and awards but, hallelujah, loves the Lord. What a cruel sense of humour the Lord possesses.

In response to Maury's thoughts on the Kent/Jo relationship it is now some seven years since Kent last saw his wife (unless there have been some unreported prison visits) and that is a long time to be separated. Since her release Jo has had many years to reflect on her life with Kent and how badly he let her down. I don’t know the lady but I imagine that she is a quiet, contemplative soul who, on being released, would have suffered greatly psychologically from the shame of her prison sentence and probably remains in a fragile condition presumably closely cosseted in the relative quiet of her daughter’s home. Will she look forward with pleasure at having that peace disturbed by Kent and his raving self-centred conversation following his release from prison. Somehow, I doubt it. What further ammunition Kent's stupid involvement with Hansen now gives her.

Seven years ago the prison tapes not only showed how Kent's daughter wanted nothing to do with his scams but, more forcefully, demonstrated the strident difference between Kent’s approach to his problems and Jo’s more pragmatic attitude. She wanted Kent to cease from his declared intent to attack the IRS in any way he could and to obtain legal advice of a higher quality than that which he had been seeking during the previous years and which had led him to believe self-servingly and mistakenly that he had the IRS licked. Kent refused the sensible and reasonable advice of his wife in order to continue his war against the government which, it seems, still shows no sign of abatement.

On his inevitable if delayed release will Kent be admitted by Jo back into the family home? I suppose so but with reservations and imposed conditions too delicate to discuss here. Will Eric allow his father to interfere in his business affairs. Eric is his own man now and given his business association with the calorie-challenged Paul Taylor who Kent dislikes (which makes two of us), I very much doubt it. More likely, despite Kent's prison musings of opening a camp site, my guess is that he will be packed off to small church halls far away around the country to present his tedious old seminars illuminated with all those long-outdated musty slides? Eight years is a long time in modern science.

But, first, I assume that the next act to watch in the Krazee World of KH is Hansen being dragged back to Pensacola in chains to explain to the judge why he thinks that a subpoena is a request and not an order. I'll just plump up my cushions and settle back on the sofa.

[Arthur Rubin]

Does this have something to do with Kent Hovind!
Does it have something to do with that error that was noted in one of the documents filed in the Hovind case (i.e., the reference to a grand jury proceeding)?

Paul John Hansen subpoena for Pensacola federal grand jury!

Ignoring Hansen's idiocy, there may be a legal question here.

In the event Hansen would be subject to arrest or to a civil action in FL, but FL does not have personal jurisdiction over him, then obeying this subpoena would subject him to that other legal action. Are we sure that a FL Federal Grand Jury can subpoena people from out of state?

Also, a "Subpoena Duces Tecum" usually doesn't require a personal appearance.

[Dr. Caligari]

Are we sure that a FL Federal Grand Jury can subpoena people from out of state?

Yes, we're sure. Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 17(e)(1) says that a subpoena "may be served at any place within the United States." (It's the Rules of Civil Procedure that limit the geographic scope of subpoenas.)

Also, a "Subpoena Duces Tecum" usually doesn't require a personal appearance.

In a federal criminal case, a subpoena duces tecum typically says "you are commanded to appear and testify and to bring with you..." That's to insure that the witness not only turns over the documents but is also available to give whatever testimony is necessary to authenticate them.

[Paths of the Sea]

In a federal criminal case, a subpoena duces tecum typically says

"you are commanded to appear and
testify and to bring with you..."

Paul John Hansen provided a link to the subpoena he received and it does begin with:

"YOU ARE COMMANDED to appear in this
United States district court...to testify
before the court's grand jury."

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[notorial dissent]

While that is one scenario that might reasonably be expected, if it plays out that way it will also be an indication that Kent and Jo aren't really all that keen on getting back together.

If Kent and Jo are serious about getting back together sooner rather than later, Kent will bring forth works meet for repentance and work with his public defender to minimize the damage done as a result of his contemptuous antics.

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

That is a down which I would prefer not to gallope if at all possible, for a variety of reasons.

I think it is certain enough to say that Kent's narcissism, over blown ego, and seeming desire for self destruction will accomplish that all by themselves without benefit of outside influences or excuses.

Who is Paul John Hansen ?

take him there of his own volition.

[Paths of the Sea]

Who is Paul John Hansen ?

There is an interesting account of some of Hansen's antics in the following Quatloos thread:

viewtopic.php?f=49&t=4029&p=66565&hilit ... sen#p66565

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[notorial dissent]

Thanks. Sounds like a real bright light from the get go. I wasn't paying much attention to those sagas that far back so no wonder the name didn't ring any bells.

Still doesn't explain why they could possibly want him in FL. As they say curiouser and curiouser.

[Paths of the Sea]

Still doesn't explain why they could possibly
want him in FL. As they say curiouser and curiouser.

Paul John of the family Hansen has been handling some of Kent's money (i.e., his legal defense fund) and is thought to be one of Kent Hovind's "legal dream team" members.

Hansen made reference to a possible accusation regarding filing documents using an alias. It could have reference to him producing and filing documents for Kent Hovind.

It seems to me that it all relates to things Hovind who is presently in Florida to attend to his criminal contempt charges and trial now scheduled for November 3, 2014.

Maybe someone will come up with more details like who else may have been subpoenaed and what else they are looking into.

My skills are quite limited. If Hansen didn't show up for the grand jury, what is likely to happen and when? Is there a way to follow the developments or do we have to wait until someone "leaks" the information. The Pensacola paper seems to be covering the federal grand jury investigating the local government down there but appears to be, quite typically, neglecting the developing Hovind story.

Sincerely,
Maury Enthusiast!

[Arthur Rubin]

Still seems like potential abuse of a criminal subpoena to serve a civil summons, especially if the US, FL, or the foreman of the grand jury is plaintiff in the civil case.

[Samphire]

Hansen made reference to a possible accusation regarding filing documents using an alias. It could have reference to him producing and filing documents for Kent Hovind.

I got the impression that Hansen is accused of filing documents in Hovind's name and on his behalf. At one stage Kent declared that he couldn't have filed the liens because he wasn't able to get to the post. If Hansen denies he was involved then who did it?

The court doesn't need to ask for a sample of my handwriting. Unlike Kent's, mine's joined up.

[Dr. Caligari]

If Hansen didn't show up for the grand jury, what is likely to happen and when?

In all likelihood, the Government will make a motion to hold him in contempt; the judge will issue a bench warrant, and Hansen will be arrested and brought to Florida; and the judge will give him the choice of complying with the subpoena or sitting in jail.