Kent Hovind Since Sept 2013

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I waded through that pile of effluent the other afternoon, was really really bored, really should have found something useful to do. It is pure sovrun boilerplate BS from start to finish. If he missed a meme I missed it, except maybe the usual revoking of his signatures and I may just have missed it, but he did revoke his consent, doesn't want to play, all the rest of the usual malarkey. Nothing new or different at all, if you've read one sovrun "you can't make me" filing then this one will be familiar.

From the way it reads, I think this is more Hansen than it is Hovind, although Kent's buddy on the outside may be partly responsible, who knows. It will never see the light of say, as I can't imagine any judge letting a steaming pile like that be filed.
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I just realized that Kent has made connections with Rudy Davis, aka LoneStar1776.

Rudy has posted a number of videos including some featuring his telephone interviews with Kent. Some may recognize Rudy as an Obama Birther who was visited by the Secret Service. Rudy has that video on his YouTube page.

Rudy also seems to be a geocentrist and tried to take that issue up with Kent.

Here are some links to Rudy's interviews with Kent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8OZc3WPkHw (13 Minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrHBGlif0w (30 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM56-LZew4M (28 minutes)

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Ernie Land thinks they are out to kill Kent Hovind!

Just posted by Rudy Davis/LoneStar1776:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEh_J15rfhE

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Ernie need his wiring checked, but then again, that has always been pretty obvious.
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If the Notice is executed by Kent and served on the court the judge will doubtless reasonably conclude that Kent's pre-sentence address to her during which he claimed ignorance of but complete respect for the law was just hypocritical, dishonest hogwash.
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And she would be right.
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I've just been listening to Kent lying continuously yet again on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM56-LZew4M

At 13:30 Kent admits to using Glen Stoll's credit card scam. I have never heard Kent even mention let alone admit to this before. He doesn't explain why, as an honest, law-abiding christian, he adopted this course to obtain cash for his business. But that's OK as I already know the reason.

At 22:00 he seems to admit that it was him who mailed the lis pendens but then immediately realises his mistake and backtracks.
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Re: Kent Hovind Since Sept 2013

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"Rudy Davis of Dallas, TX", aka LoneStar1776 appears starstruck on Kent Hovind.

He just posted the following wherein he simply reads Kent's thing he tried to file with the grand jury that originally indicted him.

What some might find interesting is the rant Rudy presents after his reading, which starts at about the 36:00 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVde8dTeVdE

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Here's a quick hit against Scott Schneider from Rudy Davis, just posted, 44 seconds and no sound, just the visuals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F9M04CxSnA

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Jerry Rose, one of Rudy Davis' YouTube associates has showed up on FaceBook to discuss Kent's "structuring" problem, and related issues.

Some here might want to take a glance as to how that conversation is going and provide some feedback here.

The FaceBook link to the conversation is:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 8739517135

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The stunned Hovind attorneys each moved for a mistrial since jury instructions cannot be changed after closing*.
Robert, I don't post on Facebook so add my comment here.

It's an interesting discussion you are having and I see that Jerry is just belching out the standard Hovind smokescreen. With respect to the above quote by Jerry is it not correct that it is an incorrect statement of the actual legal position and, although the provision varies from State to State, in general and certainly in Florida it is perfectly proper to amend the jury instructions after closing arguments?
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The stunned Hovind attorneys each moved for a mistrial since jury instructions cannot be changed after closing*.
Robert, I don't post on Facebook so add my comment here.

It's an interesting discussion you are having and I see that Jerry is just belching out the standard Hovind smokescreen. With respect to the above quote by Jerry is it not correct that it is an incorrect statement of the actual legal position and, although the provision varies from State to State, in general and certainly in Florida it is perfectly proper to amend the jury instructions after closing arguments?
Thanks for the feedback.

I sense there is something wrong with the oft-repeated claim, but I have not advanced far enough to be able to deal with that aspect of the matter explicitly.

I figure if it was that simple the case would not have proceeded as it did; and we know that Hovind and his people are quite lacking in credibility.

Maybe we will get around to resolving that specific issue as the discussion here, there or elsehwere might proceed.

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Immediately after Richey had finished his closing statement to the jury Heldmyer asked the judge for a number of corrective instructions to remedy "one of the most disingenuous closing arguments that I've ever heard in my life.". One of these was a request to amend the jury instruction by the addition of a sentence to clarify the law on structuring.

Both Richey (for Kent) and Barringer (for Jo) threatened a mistrial if the proposed sentence (making clear what the law actually stated rather than the misleading account of it which Richey had just described to the jury) was added to the instructions. In the event, R or B's peremptory moves for a mistrial were immediately denied by the judge. The judge offered Richey whatever further time he required to re-address the jury on the matter but Richey refused it. Effectively, the additional clarifying sentence in the jury instructions subsequently proved to be a non-issue.
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Dan & Sam from God's Property Radio have posted the following interview with Paul John Hansen:

http://godspropertyradio.podomatic.com/ ... 3_44-08_00

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Rudy Davis/LoneStar1776 has recently appeared as a leader in the movement to promote the cause of Kent Hovind. There is more in the video than just geocentrism that will help one come to some kind of conclusion as to where Rudy is coming from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32T56YC-X1I

Some may recall that Rudy tried to sell Kent on geocentrism in one of his recent interviews. Kent didn't go for it and they moved on to other matters.

Here's the related video where Rudy calls on Kent to repent of his heliocentrism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwmQk_bO70o

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Paths of the Sea wrote:Some may recall that Rudy tried to sell Kent on geocentrism in one of his recent interviews.
We're always making jokes about believing that the earth is flat, and rejecting the laws of gravity.

But seriously.

The sun revolves around the earth?

Maybe Kent is being tried for the wrong crime, and he should be burned as a witch.
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Paths of the Sea wrote:Some may recall that Rudy tried to sell Kent on geocentrism in one of his recent interviews. Kent didn't go for it and they moved on to other matters.

...... Rudy calls on Kent to repent of his heliocentrism:

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If this were any other pair of idiots, I'd have said, "you've got to be kidding", but with them it's just par for the course. :roll:
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The U.S. Tax Court found Kent Hovind liable for the civil fraud penalty regarding his personal income tax liabilities. That's equivalent to a finding that he is guilty of "tax evasion".

The antics of Kent Hovind can be properly characterized as "tax evasion", with a religious twist.

Some don't think so!

Rudy Davis and the preacher in the video, Eric Philpot, continue tuning up to advance the cause of Kent Hovind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMtGRntTFPo

Eric Philpot's church:

http://www.crosslifefw.org/contact-us/

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Hovind is first last and foremost a tax cheat/evader/liar/fraud.

This has been proven in court, and he continues to prove it with each an every utterance and passing day.

The fact that he uses, or at least attempts to use religion as a shield for what he has done just add to the lack of luster to his character, which quite frankly I find quite deficient based on his actions alone.

The fact that he has attracted Rudy and the Gaeia nut from Canada to his side doesn't change any of that one bit.
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Here's Rudy's very excited interview with Kent today, right after Rudy had a radio broadcast with a guy named Manning who is supposed to have a big audience, as those people count audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB1fZOnGmGc (15 minutes)

Here's the Manning radio program link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyM-77h4S3k (45 minutes)

I haven't been able to listen to all of them yet.

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