Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Moderator: ArthurWankspittle

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10642
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby notorial dissent » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:19 am

It was put on the market, I don't know that it ever sold with the caveats on it. I certainly wouldn't want to buy a piece of property with possibly unexploded or unlocated bombs on it.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

TheNewSaint
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1035
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:35 am

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby TheNewSaint » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:32 pm

The Brown compound also had gigantic amounts of unpaid back taxes, which the town had shown no willingness to forgive. I wonder if this was to ensure that no one ever buys it, as the town can't possibly vouch for what might be in there.

They should sell the Brown property to one of those insufferable HGTV fixer-upper shows. "Using part of the Hipster Family's $125,000 remodeling budget, we'll remove this wall here and *kaboom*

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10642
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby notorial dissent » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:26 am

As I understand it, the parcel was originally valued fairly highly. There are numerous problems with the property. There is a huge unforgiven tax bill sitting against it that the county appears unwilling to forgive. There is possibly some/a lot/none unexploded and unlocated ordinance/bombs/boobytraps all over the property/in the house. The house itself is of dubious safety simply because Ed built it without benefit of following any of the rules or codes, so safety there would be a major and serious, possibly life threatening, concern. The only practical and safe approach would be to simply bulldoze the entire plot and start over, and then there would still be the tax bill on top of what the demo would cost. So no bargain really at any price, including free.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

Hercule Parrot
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1456
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:58 pm

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby Hercule Parrot » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:59 pm

Arthur Rubin wrote:I was thinking of Ed Brown (or Ed: Brown;), but that's not right. His house was seized by the IRS around 2007, but only shown to prospective buyers in 2015 because of the booby-traps (not Jessica Rabbit's)....

Those were the good old days, when violent insurrectionists were dealt with firmly. A sad comparison to how the Bundyistas have been allowed to carry on. Brief details from wikipedia -

Elaine Brown was sentenced to 35 years, and Edward Brown was sentenced to 37 years.

Danny Riley was sentenced to 36 years, after having been convicted of helping to supply the Browns, and of stockpiling weapons and threatening law enforcement officials. Also convicted in other trials were Jason Gerhard (sentenced to twenty years ), Cirino Gonzalez (sentenced to eight years), and Robert Wolffe (sentenced to two and a half years).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown
"don't be hubris ever..." Steve Mccrae, noted legal ExpertInFuckAll.

User avatar
The Observer
Further Moderator
Posts: 6588
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 12:48 am
Location: Virgin Islands Gunsmith

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby The Observer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:18 pm

The Brown property sold - it was covered in this thread.
"I could be dead wrong on this" - Irwin Schiff

"Do you realize I may even be delusional with respect to my income tax beliefs? " - Irwin Schiff

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10642
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby notorial dissent » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:52 am

I thought the last I'd heard they'd backed out of it upon reflection.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

User avatar
The Observer
Further Moderator
Posts: 6588
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 12:48 am
Location: Virgin Islands Gunsmith

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby The Observer » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Ok, I would love to see some info on that, since I was quite surprised when someone bid on the property. In my experience, property with all the stigma and encumbrances would not be something that anyone would want to buy. My thought was that the city or county would have to come in and foreclose on their superpriority tax liens and sell it at auction, which would effectively wipe out all of the creditors - unless one of the lenders on the property stepped in to protect their note.
"I could be dead wrong on this" - Irwin Schiff

"Do you realize I may even be delusional with respect to my income tax beliefs? " - Irwin Schiff

TheNewSaint
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 1035
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:35 am

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby TheNewSaint » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:12 pm

I have an update. In July 2016, the person who bought the properties at auction re-listed them for sale:

http://www.vnews.com/Former-Brown-prope ... in-3514208

I put full details into the Ed and Elaine Brown's property sold at auction thread, since it made more sense there. The short version is:

  • James Hollander, the buyer listed at the auction) went through with the purchase, and held the two properties for 9 months before re-listing.
  • The compound is believed to be safe now, as "federal agents appear to have removed any of the explosives."
  • The compound is in better condition than we speculated, calling it merely "unfinished."
  • Apparently someone else has bought the dental office, or was about to at the time of the story.
  • The town of Plainfield still wants its back taxes. The IRS paid only 31,000 of the 200,000 owed, claiming the rest was spent maintaining the property. The town disputes this, and is pursuing litigation.

User avatar
notorial dissent
A Balthazar of Quatloosian Truth
Posts: 10642
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:17 pm

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby notorial dissent » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:29 am

I can't imagine the legal ramifications of trying to sell something like that. It is one thing if you don't know about the issues and another entirely when you do. I just can't imagine that you could warrant the property as safe or habitable, and I would bet getting financing would be a stone cold b****. The gov't sold it as is, no warranties, as I recall, and as I remember they made no bones about the possibility of still unfound remaining explosives. I don't know what the law is there, but around here it is pretty stringent.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

mac
Cannoneer
Cannoneer
Posts: 87
Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:55 pm

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby mac » Sat May 06, 2017 10:29 am

Its all gone a bit quiet with Guy, his facebook page just repeats newspaper stuff that he is interested in, but which we can read anyway
Is he in clink, hiding, or has his stuff he learnt in jail been exhausted now
Anyone know his whereabouts

User avatar
Penny Wise
First Mate
First Mate
Posts: 134
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:54 pm
Location: Deadlights

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby Penny Wise » Sat May 06, 2017 11:05 am

Can only go by recent pictures and suggest that maybe ill health, has kept him away from the Speakers Circuit.

Wishing Guy well and good health. He has been missed
Wanna balloon?

Siegfried Shrink
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Admiral of the Quatloosian Seas
Posts: 518
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 10:29 pm
Location: West Midlands, England
Contact:

Re: Guy Taylor - The Magna Carta Man of the UK

Postby Siegfried Shrink » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:36 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1pIPCVzs8o

This was published on March 16th 2017 by lawfulrebellion2012 and is possibly a repost from 2015. It shows bailiff and police at the country place featured in another video of a huge mass anti-bailiff mob scene, this time they are after a car and are bravely resisted by Guy Taylor and Leigh (Ravenscroft? he's a long way from home). Althpugh they talk about the triumph at the end, they mention that the police allowed the bailiff onto the land (not videoed) to see the car, I assume. I have a suspiction that it may have been not worth collecting.

So this is just a bit of a memory lane post.


Return to “United Kingdom”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Brandwatch [Bot], DotBot [Bot] and 1 guest