Re: UK: TPUC forum
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:00 pm
I am confused, based on that post, did he just kill off the Freeman, and merge wit his own straw man, or did he actually die?
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It's a shame really because going by his previous words it looks as though he had come to his senses.John Harris
Its with sad regret to inform you all that John Harris has past away. I would first like to ask that every one please respect the wishe for privacy of the family at this difficult time. and also if you feel the need to get in touch, you can email ben@tpuc.org
John has been a father to me for so many years, he showed me compassion, love and respect and never wanted anything in return and for that i thank you John
John influenced my life in a massive way, and made me the person i am today, and for that John i thank you.
i will miss our daily conversations, are jokes and the times we called each other names. I will miss the times we have moaned at each other, told each other when we were wrong. but the most i will miss is you.
You could talk for ever and often i could never get a word in, i used to say to you that i wished you would give it a break. But now, i would love just to hear you talk again.
I love you John, like a father, like a brother and especially as a friend. I will miss you my friend.
Love You Ben
Plumber!? He told everyone for years that he was just a humble carpenter.rumpelstilzchen wrote:Posted on TPUC 26/5/15
Hi to you all,
I would like to wish you all the best and may I say that this is a goodbye for good, which is long over due. TPUC main site is now re-directed and the Forum is in Ben’s control and has absolutely nothing to do with me. All I have ever wanted to say is in my book Memoirs of the AntiChrist.
If I had my time over I would never have got on that stage in Stoke and done ‘it’s and illusion’ as it turned me into a self obsessed monster and not only did I nearly destroy the love of my life, I nearly destroyed my family with my selfishness, delusions of grandeur and thinking I am something special.
I have now been offered a lifeline and a chance to rebuild all I have destroyed and I am so humbled by the fact this has been offered to me, considering what I have done. I consider myself to be the luckiest man on the planet to be given this chance and I turn my back on TPUC and everything that took me away from my family. I now have become what I should have been all along a loving family man, husband to be and a hard working plumber who pays his tax.
I strongly suggest to anyone who reads this that if you too are about to forsake your family the way that I did, then please re-think, as I promise you there is nothing more important than your family, nothing!
So all that is left to say is goodbye and I wish you all the happiness, good health and all the love in the world, as I now am so privileged and lucky to have back and never will I forsake it again…
John Harris
That doesn't look like a suicide note to me. Looks like it is from someone looking forward to a new beginning after a big realisation.NYGman wrote: A suicide is a tragedy for those related, and I do feel bad for them.
While it doesn't look like a suicide note, it does point to a number of things that would have been stressing him. The problem with suicide is that you can never really know why a person did it. You can hope that they have been honest in any note that they may have left, but you will never be able to ask them directly, why?wanglepin wrote:That doesn't look like a suicide note to me. Looks like it is from someone looking forward to a new beginning after a big realisation.NYGman wrote: A suicide is a tragedy for those related, and I do feel bad for them.
I don't think the woo had anything to do with him messing up his family life. IIRC it was the attention he received when he was at his height that was to blame. People began to hero-worship him and it went to his head. Females started to pay him attention and I believe he was caught playing away from home. His wife kicked him out because of his infidelity not because of his belief in the woo. There was a rumour at the time that he was seeing girlgye, a well known follower of FOTL in the UK until her untimely death. (RIP girlgye, you and I had some incredible spats on Icke's back then. Fondly remembered.) John's wife was a member and a poster on TPUC. She didn't object to the effect of the woo but she did object to him seeing A.N.Other.PeanutGallery wrote:
It would seem that for all the influence Mr Harris had on the FMOTL movement in the UK it came at the cost of his family, his relationships, and perhaps ultimately his life. This is one of the things I am fearful of, that someone vulnerable who falls for the woo, might be so suckered in that they do an untold amount of damage to their life and wind up in a position where suicide begins to look like their only way of escaping the nightmare they have made.
I can agree with that particularly the bold underlined.PeanutGallery wrote: It would seem that for all the influence Mr Harris had on the FMOTL movement in the UK it came at the cost of his family, his relationships, and perhaps ultimately his life. This is one of the things I am fearful of, that someone vulnerable who falls for the woo, might be so suckered in that they do an untold amount of damage to their life and wind up in a position where suicide begins to look like their only way of escaping the nightmare they have made.
This is why the guru's are dangerous and why the games they play with other peoples lives are so despicable.
He certainly wasn't innocent. The mind games he and his pal (power trip) Ben played with people (some desperate) was cruel and shameful at times. And his core supporters over on his site were nothing short of animals who enjoyed teasing and toying with desperate minds that were simply seeking answers.PeanutGallery wrote:Even though Harris was a guru himself, and so cannot be considered innocent,
I agree. In what is believed to be one his early public talks, you can actually see one of these infamous guru`s sitting on the sidelines taking notes.PeanutGallery wrote: he was also a victim of other guru's selling impossible dreams.
Could someone copy`n' paste this for me please I cannot open the link.Burnaby49 wrote:Here is Harris's daughter discussing his death. She gives a very blunt, brutal, assessment of the cost to the families resulting from these idiots getting lost in their Freeman fanaticism;
https://www.facebook.com/EnglishRuleOfL ... 76/?type=1
I've not necessarily been an ideal father but I tried and my kids won't write anything like that about me when I die. About as searing a eulogy for a failed life as you are going to find.
wanglepin wrote:Could someone copy`n' paste this for me please I cannot open the link.
Carpenter sounds a lot cooler in the guru stakes - I presume as a plumber he would have used some carpentry skills eg to box in pipes.wanglepin wrote: Plumber!? He told everyone for years that he was just a humble carpenter.
Now that! sounds like the Harris I do know.Hercule Parrot wrote:wanglepin wrote:Could someone copy`n' paste this for me please I cannot open the link.
and continuesrumpelstilzchen wrote: And the inevitable begins:Re: John Harris has died..
Postby handle » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:29 pm
Hmm.....I wonder what he died of?.........and was he "helped" on his way? - I only say that because there may be certain groups not happy with some of the things he was disclosing,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294470jake_ball
Senior Member
It's funny that so many people who speak the truth end up getting murdered...I mean end up committing suicide.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthre ... 470&page=2thall ;
Suicide, yeah right..They are good at making it look like that aren't they?
jake ball says that "so many" get murdered. Exactly how many would that be, jake?wanglepin wrote:http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294470jake_ball
Senior Member
It's funny that so many people who speak the truth end up getting murdered...I mean end up committing suicide.
I don't understand. About 2 minutes in, he tells his audience that the word 'control' is derived from the nautical term for steering (conn), combined with 'troll'. He shares a self-congratulatory laugh with the audience members who had realised this, because they were all too clever to fall for the Illuminati's web trolls.wanglepin wrote:what is believed to be one his early public talks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUEaX3cE-1U ....