Peter of England: He’s still F RE?

[grixit]

There was (loose) talk a couple of pages back about how PoE should make us rethink 'Money'.
Well it's been re-thought time and again and guess what? It's still good. My Missus is fond of saying that 'Money is the root of all evil', to which I generally reply that it's the lack of money that might be up for that claim.

I believe the proper quote is "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil". Makes more sense that way. Money itself is just a piece of paper. It is the greed and avarice that make people do evil things.

Avarice and greed are gonna drive you over the endless sea
They will leave you drifting in the shallows
Drowning in the oceans of history
Traveling the world, you're in search of no good
But I'm sure you'll build your Sodom like you knew you would
Using all the good people for your galley slaves
As your little boat struggles through the warning waves
But you don't, pay

You will pay tomorrow
You're gonna pay tomorrow
You're gonna pay tomorrow

[pigpot]

He is still free eh!

[vampireLOREN]

He is still free eh!

Sure he is, just as his customers are still broke and in debt .

[longdog]

Over on FB, Tim Wiele isn't a very happy customer:

Hello, ANSWER THE E-MAILS !!!! YOU HAVE MY LETTER WITH THE MONEY AND P.N. THE TRACKING REPORT SHOWED IT, SINCE 23.11.15 IS MY LETTER BY YOUR BANK!!!! Where is my money? Where is my activ account? When do the cheques come? Asked 5times, without an answer!! I´m asking since the 25.11.15 without an answer, and the automatic answer: "Thank you for your enquiry which has been passed to the relevant person who will respond to you shortly.We look forward to being able to assist your needs in the near future Kind Regards WeRe Bank Administration." ....can you take and ..... ANSWER THE QUESTIONS HERE AND IN YOUR BANK FORUM!!!

Given PoE has been quiet for an uncharacteristically long time (usually his mania would have sparked off some ramblings about lizard Jews by now), could it be that he's finally done a runner? I doubt he has given that he's primed the suckers to give him more legitimate cash for his upcoming worthless cash, but it's an interesting possibility...

It's certainly looking like Poe may have finally bailed out with his ill gotten gains. He doesn't seem to have posted on Facebook for over two weeks, the post above is still there and a follow up today of "ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!! TAKE MY MONEY AND DO NOTHING!!"... Perhaps at least one sucker has realised by now that he's been conned.

[Zeke_the_Meek]

It's certainly looking like Poe may have finally bailed out with his ill gotten gains. He doesn't seem to have posted on Facebook for over two weeks, the post above is still there and a follow up today of "ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!! TAKE MY MONEY AND DO NOTHING!!"... Perhaps at least one sucker has realised by now that he's been conned.

Indeed, rare of him to leave such comments stinking up the place. He's either working on huge unveiling of the next step of the scam, or he's scarpered.

[PeanutGallery]

This has happened before, in terms of Peter seemingly vanishing only to return with a spree of incomprehensible garbage. As for one of the reasons why he is still at large (assuming that his vanishing act hasn't involved the aid of her majesty's constables) it is quite likely that he is too small to get a great amount of attention. The police are likely going to build cases against those using the cheques before going after the supplier (and it would be easier to prove that Peter supplied articles for use in fraud if others have been convicted for fraudulently using the articles he supplied).

[guilty]

The Isle of Man Government has now issued a warning on WeRe Bank to all local authorities and public bodies.
It was as a result of this:


Which, I think, is the first WeRe cheque to appear on the island. I look forward to the resulting court case.

Edited to add: It was intended to be payment for his Rates.

[Hyrion]

and it would be easier to prove that Peter supplied articles for use in fraud if others have been convicted for fraudulently using the articles he supplied

And easier yet if a few of those who are found guilty of using the cheques testify in exchange for lesser sentences.

I believe the concept is usually refered to as "turning states evidence".

[FatGambit]

Over here we have other delightful words to describe it such as snitch, grass, narc, informant etc.

The official term is 'turn Queen's evidence' though,

[Pox]

The Isle of Man Government has now issued a warning on WeRe Bank to all local authorities and public bodies.
It was as a result of this:


Which, I think, is the first WeRe cheque to appear on the island. I look forward to the resulting court case.

Edited to add: It was intended to be payment for his Rates.

Wow - that's one government that acts fast - date of cheque is 23/11 !

[PeanutGallery]

The Isle of Man Government has now issued a warning on WeRe Bank to all local authorities and public bodies.
It was as a result of this:


Which, I think, is the first WeRe cheque to appear on the island. I look forward to the resulting court case.

Edited to add: It was intended to be payment for his Rates.

Wow - that's one government that acts fast - date of cheque is 23/11 !

Wasn't their an Isle of Man sov from a while back, Paul Doyle, I wonder if it is the same person.

[Chaos]

The Isle of Man Government has now issued a warning on WeRe Bank to all local authorities and public bodies.
It was as a result of this:


Which, I think, is the first WeRe cheque to appear on the island. I look forward to the resulting court case.

Edited to add: It was intended to be payment for his Rates.

I see what he did wrong. It should have been made out to 'The Isle of Man Evil Government'

[Wake Up! Productions]

It is now day 16 since we last heard from PoE on Facebook. What are the odds that he has been arrested? Does anyone here have the ability to look into the courts to see if there is any record of an arrest?

[mufc1959]

It is now day 16 since we last heard from PoE on Facebook. What are the odds that he has been arrested? Does anyone here have the ability to look into the courts to see if there is any record of an arrest?

Arrests are down to the police, not the courts. There's no way of finding out if someone's been arrested. And it's entirely random if it's reported in local papers. PoE isn't national news (yet).

[mufc1959]

The WeRe Bank Facebook page is currently active, after a few days of silence. Whether or not it's PoE posting on there I don't know. But there's a backlash...

[Losleones]

The Isle of Man Government has now issued a warning on WeRe Bank to all local authorities and public bodies.
It was as a result of this:


Which, I think, is the first WeRe cheque to appear on the island. I look forward to the resulting court case.

Edited to add: It was intended to be payment for his Rates.

On the dud note "clearing hotline" of course freephone & a "sorry all lines are busy" but don't worry freeloaders you're forged notes will be cleared on my ledger. What you suckers do after that is none of my concern, just push those notes & remember you're on the hook for 150k when i call in the PN you promised me.

[ArthurWankspittle]

On the dud note "clearing hotline" of course freephone & a "sorry all lines are busy" ....

No it's a mobile number. IIRC Pete has used a couple of numbers then ignored them or, more likely, just stopped paying for them. That prefix originally came from the "3" network.

[longdog]

The Isle of Man Government has now issued a warning on WeRe Bank to all local authorities and public bodies.
It was as a result of this:


Which, I think, is the first WeRe cheque to appear on the island. I look forward to the resulting court case.

Edited to add: It was intended to be payment for his Rates.

I see what he did wrong. It should have been made out to 'The Isle of Man Evil Government'

No... Where he went wrong was in making the cheque payable in £ not Re... If he'd made it out in Re then the IOM government could've been paid in universal energy transfer.... Or something.

[longdog]

On the dud note "clearing hotline" of course freephone & a "sorry all lines are busy" ....

No it's a mobile number. IIRC Pete has used a couple of numbers then ignored them or, more likely, just stopped paying for them. That prefix originally came from the "3" network.

I don't think stopping paying for them comes in to it... I've just dialled the number and it says some old shite about 'outside office hours or the line busy' and says to send a fax to 0044 161 33260 which is a dead line.

Poe has been using disposable SIM cards.

[Hercule Parrot]

Good business to be in this not really a bank bank business. No one seems able to do anything about a bloke in a camper van with a mailing address pretending to be a bank while he happily collects real cash and issues dud cheques and, soon, dud cash too.

The state isn't going to spend a lot of time or energy trying to stop greedy, stupid people from throwing their money at a scam. The sort of people who are attracted to PoE's "welsh on your debts and cheat your neighbours" scheme are not particularly deserving of sympathy. If he started scamming little old ladies out of their pensions, things would be very different.

The flip-side of course is that PoE's target market are also somewhat more likely to kick the feculant out of him, when they realise they've been taken for Charlies. And if they were to talk to each other and then set out to confront him, things could get ugly real fast.

It is sometimes imagined that PoE's itinerant wanderings in the "Scam-pervan" are to evade law enforcement. That's nonsense - it is trivial to arrange for Facebook to notify Police whenever he posts, and from what IP address. Police can then call the ISP and get an address, or triangulate from cell towers. If they wanted PoE, they could pick him up any time. And he knows that. He's more concerned with staying out of the way of his customers, especially the ones who've just lost their homes.