Losing Your Home, Crawford Style

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Re: Losing Your Home, Crawford Style

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PeanutGallery wrote:When a property is auctioned the auction normally includes everything that was left in the property at the time of the sale. While the attempts to auction the bungalow were frustrated it was sold by auctioneers and I doubt they would have changed these terms. I would suspect that when Tom was evicted ALL of the items he had that could be moved, was removed on the back of the big truck. It is unlikely that anything was left, but if it was Tom and Sue had both the time and the means to raise concerns with the banks representatives to have it returned to them.

I would suggest that what they call their 'property' in this video is most likely to be fixtures and fittings. Like old Kitchen Cabinets, Doors, Bathroom fixtures. Tom and Sue would view anything that goes into the skip as having been 'their' property. It is not. It was part of the building that was repossessed and the ownership was transferred to the new owner after the sale.

Clearly the new owner does not view the missing property as being anything of value since it is being discarded into a skip.
Who is the legal owner of the poo the Rooftop 6 left behind? Was it just carelessly skipped, too?
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I do like the way they complain that they wrote to the new owners of The Property Formally Known as Crawford's Cottage and never got a reply. I wonder why...

The whole video is utterly pathetic and just rehashes the pitiful legal arguments (if you can grace such nonsense with that description) which have failed, failed and failed again.

Oh... And he wrongly claims the song is "Our House"... It isn't, it's "This Ole House".
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Re: Losing Your Home, Crawford Style

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Gregg wrote:
Who is the legal owner of the poo the Rooftop 6 left behind? Was it just carelessly skipped, too?
Perhaps the police recovered it, bagged it and labelled it in order for it to be used as evidence at the trial?
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Over on the EFOTB FB page, it looks like Amanda still has her head down the freeman warren and can't even remember what she has previously posted (please see my signature). Both Amanda and some other idiot are claiming that there is no warrant, when Amanda has herself posted that there is a County Court warrant a copy of which has been posted on this site.

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PeanutGallery wrote: I would suggest that what they call their 'property' in this video is most likely to be fixtures and fittings. Like old Kitchen Cabinets, Doors, Bathroom fixtures. Tom and Sue would view anything that goes into the skip as having been 'their' property. It is not. It was part of the building that was repossessed and the ownership was transferred to the new owner after the sale.
That makes more sense
Hypothetically speaking, if I knew I was likely to be evicted from my home, I would make sure to remove all my personal stuff.
Likewise were I ever to buy the flat I live in now, the kitchen and bathroom would be gutted and redone mostly from scratch.
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Tom and Sue didn't know they would be evicted, they won every case and the warrant was a dead duck.

When they were evicted it was the work of UKAR to inventory and remove their belongings. I would wager given how litigious and difficult the Crawfords had been, they were very thorough in doing this, I would doubt that anything was left in the Crawfords that was not securely attached to the walls or would otherwise have been difficult to remove.

In fact had any property gone missing I am sure we would have heard about it before now, repeatedly and frequently. We did not. So we must assume that the property being removed now was either not consequential to them when they were evicted or something they would expect to have had returned when they won their fight, in spite of having won it all the way to eviction, and got the bungalow back.
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PeanutGallery wrote:
In fact had any property gone missing I am sure we would have heard about it before now, repeatedly and frequently. We did not.
Have you forgotten Betty - we certainly heard about her. And Sue's mothers clothes/belongings that she was supposed to wear for her funeral IIRC.

I assume they got the clothing/belongings back because we didn't hear more after the first few days.

No update on Betty though, as far as I know.
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PeanutGallery wrote:
In fact had any property gone missing I am sure we would have heard about it before now, repeatedly and frequently. We did not. So we must assume that the property being removed now was either not consequential to them when they were evicted or something they would expect to have had returned when they won their fight, in spite of having won it all the way to eviction, and got the bungalow back.
if I remember correctly, they tried to blame the company that cleared the shack of damaging priceless items.
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Pox wrote:
PeanutGallery wrote:
In fact had any property gone missing I am sure we would have heard about it before now, repeatedly and frequently. We did not.
Have you forgotten Betty - we certainly heard about her. And Sue's mothers clothes/belongings that she was supposed to wear for her funeral IIRC.

I assume they got the clothing/belongings back because we didn't hear more after the first few days.

No update on Betty though, as far as I know.
I thought Betty had entered witness protection and relocated to see out her days in Key West. That or a fox.

As for Sue's mothers stuff, I think the issue was it was in storage and they couldn't get to it which was unfortunate timing though not likely to be intentional. That they haven't strongly played the property card shows that it's not their main concern. Which is probably getting back into the bungalow they didn't pay for.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m13BpswFRKs
I know people on here have already said this but I was just under the inpresion he was just a liar a cheat and a nasty old man. But I know agree with most on here he is now bat shit crazy! :haha:
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Anyone in the vicinity of Nottingham Magistrates on the 14th July, could be a laugh!

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Really pleased with the situation that I now find myself in, it’s taken a lot of effort but I have now got my day in the criminal court, on Thursth 14th of July in the magistrates court which will be just for a directions hearing, and I hope to progress this into the Crown Court, I’ve known for a couple of weeks now but now is the time for me to let you all know.

In this video there are dates for meetings, the first one is 16th July at 1pm by the group called the free thinkers Nottingham, and that’s taking place at the navigation inn looks promising to be a good meeting wish I could go.

Another meeting taking place on the same day 16 July starting at 11.30am, this is a private meeting for those that’s been evicted only.

And finally for this month the last meeting is to take place on the 31st of July in Nottingham, and has been called by the British constitution group and this is the message to all those that active in trying to make this country a better place.

This is the message from Justin Walker of the British constitution group.
The British Constitution Group is launching a new umbrella campaigning initiative to bring us all together in a much more effective and coherent way at a time when the system-servers appear to be in a state of complete flux and instability.

We are asking for people of good will who wish to expose and peacefully bring down the criminals running our country, whether in the Courts, the Houses of Parliament or the City of London, to meet on Sunday, July 31st at 11.00 am at:

The Punchbowl
214 Porchester Road
Nottingham
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We are assembling the clans in a dynamic Rule of Law initiative comprising of individuals, self-determining grassroots organisations and local community groups. By coming together in such a way, we can raise essential campaigning resources and can help and support each other more effectively at evictions, court appearances and events where numbers and expertise are much needed.

Our attendance is essential - this is the time for decisive lawful action to end all this insanity and criminality.
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I would love to see anyone try that "non-combatant" thing in a non-military courtroom, I'm sure it will be more successful than the freeman bollocks that has been attempted in courts previously... :whistle:
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What a deluded old fool
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SteveUK wrote:What a deluded old fool
It doesn't help that Colon and co. keep egging him on. I'm not sure what he's expecting to get out of the court visit on the 14th but I'd wager that it will not be a straightforward hearing.
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I will make a prediction! 1. They were a special jury brought in who specialise in gate keeper tactics. 2. The judge was also a gate keeper again brought in just to stop Tom. 3. Judge stopped me from providing evidence to the jury that a fee must be paid, again he repeatedly said it was not relevant to the case in front of him, the case of a deluded old fool. :beatinghorse:
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Re: Losing Your Home, Crawford Style

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Firthy2002 wrote:
SteveUK wrote:What a deluded old fool
It doesn't help that Colon and co. keep egging him on. I'm not sure what he's expecting to get out of the court visit on the 14th but I'd wager that it will not be a straightforward hearing.
Presumably the silly old fool has started a Private Prosecution naming all 'the criminals' him and Sue talked about, all the defendants will do is ask the CPS to take it over who'll stop it.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/priv ... ions/#an19

Then presumably the Crawford idiots will have made all sorts of claims in writing, they'll have handed each defendant grounds for defamation, they'll be back in Court on the receiving end of even more claims.

Plus, they'll have been stupid enough to put their current address on paperwork so B&B will be able to chase them for the £90k costs they already owe.
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Is this the stupidest person on the planet, taking the magistrates to crown court :haha: :haha:
Penney Tommy Wow never heard of taking the magistrates to crown court! Is this possible ?
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AndyPandy wrote:Presumably the silly old fool has started a Private Prosecution naming all 'the criminals' him and Sue talked about, all the defendants will do is ask the CPS to take it over who'll stop it.
Not sure about that - it seems as likely that TC is the defendant, finally charged after his pathetic rooftop vigil, and he fantasises that he can turn the trial into a grand confrontation of the banks and courts. If so he will be equally disappointed. Such a silly little man, he's turning into a caricature of his own posturing ineptitude.
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Hercule Parrot wrote:
AndyPandy wrote:Presumably the silly old fool has started a Private Prosecution naming all 'the criminals' him and Sue talked about, all the defendants will do is ask the CPS to take it over who'll stop it.
Not sure about that - it seems as likely that TC is the defendant, finally charged after his pathetic rooftop vigil, and he fantasises that he can turn the trial into a grand confrontation of the banks and courts. If so he will be equally disappointed. Such a silly little man, he's turning into a caricature of his own posturing ineptitude.
Possibly, was speculating from his video when he said 'I've got something legal on the go', I took it as he had started a criminal prosecution, but you could be right!