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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby SteveUK » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:02 am

Unphased by his rejection , it's time to double down

Dear General Register Office,

Further to my last email, please confirm how I can declare myself one of the “free sovereign and independent people of the United Kingdom” described by the Definitive Treaty of Peace called the Treaty of Paris, 1783, Article III and NOT an “inhabitant”— NOT a British Crown subject nor subject of any kind.
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Postby JimUk1 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:16 am

The treaty of Paris was between the British and the USA, to recognise the 13 states if I remember correctly?

And just had a look at article 3 since George is so keen to highlight it-

Granting fishing rights to United States fishermen in the Grand Banks, off the coast of Newfoundland and in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence;

Is George a free fish of the sea now?

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Postby notorial dissent » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:29 am

George carries stupidity and functional illiteracy to whole new dimensions.
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Postby Pottapaug1938 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:40 pm

JimUk1 wrote:The treaty of Paris was between the British and the USA, to recognise the 13 states if I remember correctly?

And just had a look at article 3 since George is so keen to highlight it-

Granting fishing rights to United States fishermen in the Grand Banks, off the coast of Newfoundland and in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence;

Is George a free fish of the sea now?


There's an easy way for George to bring himself within the scope of the 1783 treaty -- come over here and become a US citizen. However, meaning no disrespect to our British friends, I'd just as soon have George stay on his side of the pond.

There are just two problems. First of all, the treaty makes no mention of “free sovereign and independent people of the United Kingdom”. It only names the individual states which are being recognized as independent. Second, our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds... but facts can be SO inconvenient, sometimes....
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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby norrha » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:50 pm

Pottapaug1938 wrote:Second, our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds


I would argue otherwise! The first Amendment guarantees his being free to hold those "fantasies" without fear of persecution or prosecution.

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Postby TheNewSaint » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:22 pm

Pottapaug1938 wrote:our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds...


And the people who respond to FOIA requests are a lot quicker to tell you to shove off.

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Postby Pottapaug1938 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:39 pm

norrha wrote:
Pottapaug1938 wrote:Second, our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds


I would argue otherwise! The first Amendment guarantees his being free to hold those "fantasies" without fear of persecution or prosecution.


That's true; but people like George like to ACT upon their fantasies, and that's where the laws take a dim view of people like George.
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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby TheNewSaint » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:53 pm

He seems to have gotten this idea from prolific nutbag Anna von Reitz:

There are two kinds of people in this country according to the Definitive Treaty of Peace known as the Treaty of Paris, 1783, Article III and they are-- "the free sovereign and independent people of the United States" and the "inhabitants"-- British Loyalists and subjects of the British Crown who were allowed to stay here after the Revolutionary War.


Here's the full text of it. As has already pointed out, it says nothing of the sort, and Article 3 (not "III") pertains to fishing rights.

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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:08 pm

JimUk1 wrote:The treaty of Paris was between the British and the USA, to recognise the 13 states if I remember correctly?

And just had a look at article 3 since George is so keen to highlight it-

Granting fishing rights to United States fishermen in the Grand Banks, off the coast of Newfoundland and in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence;

Is George a free fish of the sea now?
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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby SteveUK » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:58 pm

We all remember George's hilarious FOI to southern water regarding their refusal to accept were cheques:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/were_bank_cheques_accepted_by_so_3#comment-70788

Well, look what recently popped up on goodf. I'm sure this is our hero George:

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The loon is considering court action against them!

http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=167&t=106232#.WOT36Tx4WEc

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Postby Dr. Caligari » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:22 pm

The responses he gets are unusually logical for GOOFers.
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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby Burnaby49 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:24 pm

Well we all saw how Peter rode to the rescue when the Parlees were in trouble after following his WeRE schemes.

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10878

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Postby Angolvagyok » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:20 am

George has popped up on https://www.facebook.com/groups/practicallawfuldissent/, handing out whatever you would call this kind of thing:

When all capital letters are used, it is not English but Latin, and it is the language of the dead - just look at all the tombstones

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In the comments to this, can't work out how to directly link it:

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Postby rumpelstilzchen » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:23 pm

George is completely wrong about gravestones. Many gravestones display the name of the deceased in mixed case. Some in beautiful copperplate. I had exactly the same argument three or four years ago on tpuc with an idiot poster who used the name "E type". I told him he was wrong and he repeatedly asked me to prove him wrong. Over the next two or three weeks he kept doing the "tumbleweed routine" or asking me if the cat had got my tongue and did lots of posts with "still waiting for the proof". So I gave him the proof. I went to my local churchyard, photograped half a dozen graves which had the name in mixed case and posted them on tpuc. Quite a few members hit the roof and that fuckwit Ben had to step in. He deleted every photo and banned me. :haha:
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Postby NYGman » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:15 pm

rumpelstilzchen wrote:George is completely wrong about gravestones. Many gravestones display the name of the deceased in mixed case. Some in beautiful copperplate. ... I went to my local churchyard, photograped half a dozen graves which had the name in mixed case and posted them on tpuc.



Don't even have to leave your house anymore, have at it: https://www.findagrave.com/

[on a side not, my wife found the above site, by accident, while doing family research on her family, and was quite surprised a site like that existed, and that it had many family tombstones available to look out. She found it a bit creepy, but have a look around, who knows who you will find]
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Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

Postby littleFred » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:53 pm

rumpelstilzchen wrote:... So I gave him the proof. ...


I remember that gravestone spat on TPUC because it was a good example of how idiots simply believed what other idiots said on the internet, without doing the simplest of checks for themselves, and their hostility to any evidence that contradicted their belief. Which makes them easy prey for Peter of England etc.


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