Page 10 of 13
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:54 pm
by mufc1959
Not from George, but an equally bonkers FOIA request to HMRC.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-646078
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:06 am
by notorial dissent
I love that they say "We work to defend the right to FOI for everyone" when in fact their members seem to be bent on abusing the process beyond all imagining, and making it difficult for real questions to get answered. I actually find it rather offensive and abusive.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:40 am
by SteveUK
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:26 am
by Bungle
The Information Commissioners Officer (ICO) are getting wise to some of these vextatious FOI requests about council tax and Liability Orders. This decision from them outlines the position rather well:
https://ico.org.uk/media/action-weve-ta ... 600411.pdf
This is one of the requests referred to:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-478423
And this is another one:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-716998
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:08 pm
by Firthy2002
Whilst I am not opposed to Freedom of Information requests, I am opposed to the current implementation and subsequent burden on the organisations since they have actual work to be doing.
My solution would be that all requests should be sent firstly to the ICO to screen out the invalid/vexatious/timewaster requests. If it is deemed a legitimate request it could then be forwarded to the relevant department/authority to respond.
Also the deadline should be doubled to 40 working days.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:36 pm
by TheNewSaint
Firthy2002 wrote:My solution would be that all requests should be sent firstly to the ICO to screen out the invalid/vexatious/timewaster requests. If it is deemed a legitimate request it could then be forwarded to the relevant department/authority to respond.
This is an outstanding idea. Create a team of government employees with the expertise to identify and respond to dubious FOI requests, regardless of what agency they are directed towards, then forward only those they really need to reply to. Would lead to better service all around.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:52 pm
by longdog
Actually I think that's using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The simple answer would be to insist all FOI requests be in writing and by post.
The internet in general is a nutter-magnet and for things like this it's clearly not the most appropriate method. I'm pretty sure at least half of these vexatious nutters only make their requests because it's easy and free. Having to actually write a letter, buy a stamp and an envelope and walk to the post-box would probably be way too much effort for them.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:07 pm
by #six
One option I would suggest. Only allow FOI requests where their Council Tax is paid up to date and then cross reference the requesters name against the Electoral Role.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:02 pm
by #six
They really should not have replied like this. George has the answer he was looking for without realising it isn't the answer he was looking for
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-585644
Dear Mr Tsigarides
Thank you for your email of 26 September in response to Mrs Michelle Jones’s letter of 11
August.
I am sorry that you had to further contact us about this matter. I can confirm that vehicles
have been de-registered.
I should explain that only new vehicles can be considered for de-registering. The
application to request a de-registration must be made within 7 days of the date of first
registration. There is also a strict criteria to follow before authorisation is given to de-
register any vehicle.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:23 pm
by littleFred
To deregister a vehicle, use
form V996. Simples.
But Mr Tsigarides and similar idiots won't bother reading the simple form and the guidance notes on the back. It won't do what he wants.
Of course, he doesn't say what he wants, 'cos that would spoil his fun. The first answer he got correctly interpreted his intent.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:53 pm
by #six
I looks like we may be looking forward to George having his car seized in the future
I note what you say, and I draw comfort to the fact that the Acts of Parliament do not apply to living breathing men and women living on this land of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
If this is not the case, I am sure you will be more than happy to confirm this.
I am pretty sure though, that you will not address this point at all - and are likely to call it 'frivolous' - which off course we all know it is not - as it goes to the heart of the matter.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:42 am
by PeanutGallery
The concept that acts of Parliament don't bind "breathing, living, people" is absurd. Especially because a part of the myth surrounding it is to declare yourself alive and not lost at sea, because otherwise an act of Parliament would declare you dead, which it couldn't do because it doesn't apply to breathing, living people.
I mean who do they think Parliament is making all these acts for? What do they think the purpose of government is? Why do the courts interpret and enforce the acts of Parliament?
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:00 pm
by SteveUK
It would seem our old friend George has recently discovered Facebook. He's quite busy. He's shared a conspiracy meme literally every few minutes for the last hour. I kid you not, every couple of minutes.
Prepare for more fails....
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:42 pm
by notorial dissent
New bright and shiny. Maybe this will keep him distracted and occupied and he will leave the authorities alone for a while. He can at least rant and rave of FB and not really bother anyone.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:13 pm
by TheNewSaint
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:03 pm
by Pox
He is completely off something but it may not just be the grid.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:19 pm
by longdog
To be honest I think George has missed the point of the meme he's posted. The point being the only people who live 'off the grid' and do all the other things... Are squirrels
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:47 pm
by notorial dissent
But but but, he is a squirrel, or at the very least a nut.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:37 am
by SteveUK
George has awoken from his FOI slumber. This time he seems to have foreigners in his sights. Not quite sure where's he's going with this one. I suspect he's trying to class himself as stateless to avoid tax, or some other hair brained scheme?
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _foreign_e
He's also started chasing up his doomed HMRC requests. I guess he doesn't quite understand that being branded vexatious has slammed that door firmly in his face.
Re: George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:02 pm
by notorial dissent
George never seems to manage to disappoint. I would suspect that part of the answer is going to be NO, and that the rest is beyond the scope of our information available. I suspect that SteveUK's guess as to his latest purpose is spot on. He won't like the answer whatever it is.
