Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:02 am

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So a few posts back I ended up having an enlightening conversation with Hayles Owen, who messaged me on FB months after I sent her a sincere plea not to continue down the Peter Rabbit hole. At the same time - way back in November - I also sent the same message to Tim Willis (who was asking PoE for advice on how to shoot himself in both feet with the 'A4V' method of debt eradication.

Months later, completely out of the blue, Tim messaged back and we had a brief chat. As always, make of this what you will.

I probably didn't go about this conversation in the best way, but it happened at 3AM and I was groggy.

My messages in black, his in blue.


Mate, just a friendly plea to implore you not to go down the Peter of England rabbit hole. He's an out and out conman who has already stolen your paddle, and is now sending you down the creek - if you follow his 'advice', you'll be in even worse financial/legal trouble than you are now and like countless others have experienced, he'll greet you with silence once you realise it (or block you.)

Thanks Zeke, i don't go down anyone elses rabbitholes, happy to make my own, but A4V is all good and i have a better one now... and the thing that no-one seems to say is you have to endorse the top back of the document and charge to the all caps name rather than the issuer of the bill you are settling... actually looking at copyright of name at the moment, interesting stuff... thanks for the heads up, i always do due dilligence. :D


A4V and 'copyright of name' is exactly the same kind of nonsense that Peter peddles. It all sounds like some magic, clever method to make debt vanish and is dressed up with big words to make it look believable, but it simply does not work. Never. Not once. You have not stumbled across the secret method that makes the debt you rightly owe disappear.

So i take it you have tried these things and they did not work? otherwise it is simply your opinion... i quite happily try stuff if i find it accords with what i have learned so far which is plenty... i owe no debt to anyone... but thanks for the concern, i have already written off plenty using my past understanding and that grows every day... :D


I haven't tried any of it, no. I don't need to - with even just a tiny bit of research, it's obvious that none of this nonsense works. On the contrary, it lands people in prison and/or in further financial trouble; the only people who buy into GOODF schemes are those in an extremely desperate situation and unable/unwilling to see through the bullshit. You're one in a long line of 'enlightened' people who have 'got it all figured out'... ten a penny, and it has never once worked out for any of them before you.

Conversely, I've adopted a different approach: if I owe money for a good or service, I do my best to pay it. Kinda works?

One of us will sleep soundly tonight. The other will scrabble around on forums for nonsensical legal jargon they can try to use to stop bailiffs knocking at the door.

Goodnight mate.

Why would you scrabble around on forums for nonsensical legal jargon? sounds fruitless to me, i study law itself, you know read the actual law... UCC and Copyright are tops... your position is very noble but uninformed. if you would like one good piece, look at UCC §1-308 "without prejudice" for signature waiver to prevent theft of POA when you give away your signature... it's a small thing with a lot of protection from Maritime presentments... be well Zeke and try not to be so judgmental... we all walk the way we choose. :D


I've heard all this Maritime/Copyright woo a hundred times before, Tim. A close relative of mine is a lawyer - i.e an actual lawyer, not someone who 'studies things on the internet' - and everyone at her firm finds this stuff laughable.

What debt are you trying to avoid, anyway? Must be pretty serious.

Zeke, i don't know you or why you are so interested to dissuade me from something or other, whatever it is you believe i am doing... none of your business and this is wasting my time... my missions vary greatly as to what i am called on to do or learn and i am the one that asks the questions to find the answers. I don't need the benefit of another to steer me. I told you, i owe nothing to anyone. now leave it... and go have fun somewhere.... be well :D


Fair enough. I shall leave you to it, and sincerely wish you all the best. Take care.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Burnaby49 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:21 am

The UCC is the Uniform Commercial Code. This is American legislation and is not valid law in Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Commercial_Code

So good luck to him with that.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby notorial dissent » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:44 am

Tim is an idiot, and if he thinks the UCC, which is US law, has any effect in the UK he is also a fool. But then we've already pretty well established that by this point.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Dr. Caligari » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:39 am

notorial dissent wrote:Tim is an idiot, and if he thinks the UCC, which is US law, has any effect in the UK he is also a fool.


Well, either that, or a moron, cretin, idiot, rider of the short bus [or is that an Americanism? Like the UCC?], or, best case, seriously misinformed.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby notorial dissent » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:52 am

Unh, I'll take really really stupid and gullible for $500 Alex.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Arthur Rubin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:32 am

Dr. Caligari wrote:Well, either that, or a moron, cretin, idiot, rider of the short bus [or is that an Americanism? Like the UCC?], or, best case, seriously misinformed.
I don't recall "rider of the short bus", and I'm an American.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheNewSaint » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:22 pm

I heard "short bus" a lot in the 80s and 90s. The etymology :mrgreen: is that smaller buses were used to ferry the special needs children to school, while normal children took the full-size bus. It was thus a synonym for "retard."

I never found this very accurate, as the smaller buses were used for a variety of purposes. It's also less socially acceptable now to insult people in this fashion. So you don't hear it as much anymore.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Chaos » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:21 pm

I've certainly never heard it applied to someone that drives a SUV.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Dr. Caligari » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:51 pm

It's also less socially acceptable now to insult people in this fashion. So you don't hear it as much anymore.


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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby grixit » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:03 am

I never got that one. There were no short buses at my high school or junior high, and no long ones at any of the elementary schools i went to. All the kids rode the same buses.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:21 am

German FB post - upcoming tour dates have leaked:

Peter of England on 25.3. In Graz on. 1.4. In Salzburg and Vienna in 8.4.


No specifics as of yet.

Anyone know what this is all in reference to?

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Bones » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:27 am

Ravensburg is where they had that court case and lost. I am guessing that the process is something dreamed up by Peter for the suckers to try to use Re's

https://wn.com/ravensburg_(district)

Guessing Klaus tried the new process and it failed

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby notorial dissent » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:30 am

If this is the case I'm thinking of, failed is putting it mildly. There was one of them that collected some jail time as I recall. I do know the one PoE was crowing about for a while there was a resounding failure on all fronts.
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Postby grixit » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:09 pm

They ordered a ravensburger but ended up eating crow.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheNewSaint » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:07 pm

Shouldn't it be the "Vienna process", in light of that localities' recent announcement they would not prosecute WeRe check writers? WeRe Bank lost much more decisively in Ravensburg.

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Postby Gregg » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:14 pm

grixit wrote:They ordered a ravensburger but ended up eating crow.


Groan.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:19 am

Just had a message from a Quatloosian regarding PoE's Vienna meet-up, saying he or she may be up for going along in person if more details surface.

I'll post my reply here as it's pertinent to the group in response to them not being able to find the German FB page (blanked out their name as it was a PM and I don't know if they wanted to retain anonymity):

Hey XXXXX - that's fantastic news! It'd certainly be good to get a Quatloosian in on the ground for that. I'm sure we could all do a collection if you wanted money to cover the expenses; I for one would be happy to contribute.

The FB page is just called 'WeRe Bank' and has a daisy as its profile pic, but I'm pretty sure you have to request access to join. However, I've just checked and more details have surfaced (posting onto the main board now):

https://www.facebook.com/events/394185350936176/

In case you can't access that link:

29 April at 14:00–17:00 UTC+02
Schutzhaus Zukunft
Verl. Guntherstraße, 1150 Vienna, Austria

Looks like registration is necessary: Anmeldung unter strommaschine@gmail.com verbindlich


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& the " repay system " are now in operation!"
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2. Didn't you also about the criminal usury by the banks, after your complains
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A week can see how their inconsiderate owner and exposed for corruption
And Price-fixing be punished?
Have you not noticed that the banksters in every war, every conceivable atrocity
And military action is involved - money, machinery and weapons to provide these
To destroy the planet, and yet you still klofpt to your doors with the " hat in the
Hand ' to ' more money ' to beg?
Have you not in pain, begging God for help?
Your ancestors to relief from cold, deprivation, hunger and pain of any kind
Prayed, and the request for deliverance, that's how you can tell, has been a long time in waiting.
You didn't. Because God left you?
The Mills of God grind slowly, but steadily!
Freedom is finally arrived.
Now you have the opportunity, the right way and the direction to the financial freedom and
Security for you, your families and future generations.
They say, " God works in mysterious ways!", isn't it?
Well, I guess there's no mysteriöseren way than how it was done in the bank, the bank has
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Angolvagyok » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:05 am

That link takes you to a page where you can purchase his new cards. There are a couple of interesting things in there:

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3. You've still gotta pay for Were membership.

4. He's started accepting RE! Although you do need to give him your RE, at 3 times the price he sold them to you for.

5. I know RE is worthless, so it's the most pointless humanitarian action of all time, but is POE trying to improve his PR?

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Postby rumpelstilzchen » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:11 am

".......spendable where you see the WeReHeRe sign......."

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Hyrion » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:20 pm

Angolvagyok wrote:[snip]
3. You've still gotta pay for Were membership.

4. He's started accepting RE! Although you do need to give him your RE, at 3 times the price he sold them to you for.
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No Problem. I just debited my Re account on my computer of 1 trillion Re and bought up life time memberships for everyone. Through his theories of energy transfer - that has now credited my account with him so he can now give out free memberships as fast as he can print the cards.


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