Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheNewSaint » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:08 pm

It's possible I'm reading too much into a machine translation, but I find it interesting that Peter is taking a pseudo-religious angle now:

Have you not begged for help with God?
Your ancestors have liberation from cold, deprivation, hunger and pain of every kind
Prayed, and this request for salvation, it may be said, took a long time to come.
Have not you rebelled because God had left you?
God's mills grind slowly but steadily!
Ultimately freedom has arrived.
Now you have the opportunity to find the right path and the direction to financial freedom and
Security for you, your families and future generations.
They say "God works in mysterious ways" Is not it?


If this is true, he wouldn't be the first financial scammer to target church-goers. That practice goes back as far as Clyde Hood and "Omega."

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:12 pm

The roll-out begins...

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Above is the card now proudly belonging to Gernot Gauper, Peter's main (and these days, pretty much only) supporter on the German FB page.

Note the numbers at the end - the first image PoE uploaded of the card way back when had different 4 digits at the end, namely '0001'. I take this to mean that he's got at least 9,999 of these useless things to flog :snicker:

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Chaos » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:01 pm

does it come with the magic keyfob?

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Forsyth » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:46 pm

Zeke_the_Meek wrote:Note the numbers at the end - the first image PoE uploaded of the card way back when had different 4 digits at the end, namely '0001'. I take this to mean that he's got at least 9,999 of these useless things to flog :snicker:

Interesting that he used a 16 digit number starting with a 4, which makes it very "credit card like", but it doesn't use a Luhn algorithm number so it won't look like one to anything used for conventional payments (but they weren't going to work with that anyway).

Obviously it doesn't have to be compatible with the credit card system and Peter hasn't claimed that it would or should, but it's interesting that there doesn't appear to be any reason for it to look like a standard number but Peter has, nevertheless, chosen the same format (four groups of four) and number range as used by existing cards anyway.

It's quite possible that the numbers aren't sequential and may even use a different checksum method. Or they were just created by Peter mashing his keyboards with his hands, which would be just as effective.

The lack of name and expiry date should be enough of an indication that it's not a normal card anyway, but that would have made the cards significantly more expensive to produce.

We all know it's just a skinned/branded generic loyalty card scheme as used by gyms, clubs, small shops and so on; where Peter can apply points Re and, if anyone was daft enough to buy one of the NFC readers, other people could apply or deduct points as well - so long as Peter pays the monthly fees to onliner.cc (unless he went somewhere else eventually, or even just bought the cards and never bothered to set up the account properly, or failed in come other way...)

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Hercule Parrot » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:48 pm

Zeke_the_Meek wrote:The roll-out begins...

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Fantastic. Can't wait to see the greedy, stupid WereMugs trying to use them in the real world.

Standing in front of the ATM : insert-reject insert-reject insert-reject.... "Right then, I'm going to tell Peter that the Jewish Banking Syndicate is robbing me of my birthright as a sovereign Englishman, you're going to be sorry you did this!"

Supermarkets and filling stations : insert-reject swipe-reject proximity-reject... "I demand that you find a way to charge my purchases to this imaginary banking facility, or I'll report you to Lord Denning!"
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Chaos » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:12 am

Hercule Parrot wrote:
Zeke_the_Meek wrote:The roll-out begins...

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Fantastic. Can't wait to see the greedy, stupid WereMugs trying to use them in the real world.

Standing in front of the ATM : insert-reject insert-reject insert-reject.... "Right then, I'm going to tell Peter that the Jewish Banking Syndicate is robbing me of my birthright as a sovereign Englishman, you're going to be sorry you did this!"

Supermarkets and filling stations : insert-reject swipe-reject proximity-reject... "I demand that you find a way to charge my purchases to this imaginary banking facility, or I'll report you to Lord Denning!"


Don't know if it's the same in the UK but in the US, that scam card would more than likely be confiscated by the machine.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby notorial dissent » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:24 am

Well, unless it has a readable properly coded magnetic strip or a chip, both of which would cost more than PoE would be willing to front, I suspect that the cards will be invisible to any reader they come in contact with. At the very best it will come back and say invalid card. They do indeed look like the promo cards I can pick up handfulls of down at my grocery, and they give them away for free.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:49 am

notorial dissent wrote:Well, unless it has a readable properly coded magnetic strip or a chip, both of which would cost more than PoE would be willing to front, I suspect that the cards will be invisible to any reader they come in contact with. At the very best it will come back and say invalid card. They do indeed look like the promo cards I can pick up handfulls of down at my grocery, and they give them away for free.


There's definitely no mag strip on these, and I'm also pretty sure that the chip is just a printed on graphic, which I find absolutely hilarious.

The numbers are all the same except for the last four. That's as far as the 'personalisation' goes.

Even if they only cost him ten pence a card - and that's a very conservative estimate since they're embossed - that's still £1,000 Peter has wasted. Also hilarious.

The very minimal response to them so far from our German friends has been "wtf are we supposed to do with that?" though of course there will be a couple that actually try using them in some capacity, and I'd happily spend good money of my own to be a fly on the wall for that.

Here's to hoping a video surfaces of his upcoming roll-out presentation.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby SteveUK » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:42 am

"Because WeRe cheques are worthless, customers' attempts to repay debt with these cheques are not successful and so people face all the risks of late payment, from additional charges to repossession."

The investigation found the bank was right to end the customer's account and followed the correct process.


oh dear....

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2016/06/uk-were-bank-cheque-scam-reaches-nz.html

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Is it SteveUK or STEVE: of UK?????

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheCoz » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:38 pm

SteveUK wrote:
"Because WeRe cheques are worthless, customers' attempts to repay debt with these cheques are not successful and so people face all the risks of late payment, from additional charges to repossession."

The investigation found the bank was right to end the customer's account and followed the correct process.


oh dear....

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2016/06/uk-were-bank-cheque-scam-reaches-nz.html

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Now Peter will just claim the system is putting out lies to discourage and the cards will 100% work and they are scared of him. Victory.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheNewSaint » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:12 pm

That story is from June of last year. I suspect that was the first and last time anyone wrote a WeRe check in New Zealand.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:16 am

In the past 48 hours, Gernot Gauper has changed the Facebook event heralding PoE's second coming multiple times.

First he changed the location, then he changed the date, and now he's changed the title of the event to "Bitcoin Business Für Max Muster" with nary a mention of WeRe Bank.

Assumedly Peter has pulled out, as many WeRe customers probably wish his father had.


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