Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:04 pm

Well, there we have it. There's been a divisive, mass debate so far on whether or not he actually believes his own woo and sees taking money off people as a necessary step to securing his revolution, or whether he's just outright conning people. This firmly settles the matter.

Clearly palming something in the intentionally blurry video and/or has another, standard card hidden behind the toy one. It's so obvious when you look at it, I'm embarrassed to have missed it the first time round. The way he's holding the card is extremely unnatural.

So let's see if we've got this right, Peter:

1) Flog the magic cards
2) Send a bunch of plastic that cost you pennies to knock up
3) Tell everyone to await the 'activation date'
4) Oh no! Socioeconomic/technical crisis! Please hold...
5) Goto 3


Is that the gameplan here?

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Forsyth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:07 pm

NYGman wrote:Any experts out there who can deblur the dock web address or solve it with brute force aaliner.cc -> zzliner.cc?

http://www.onliner.cc/

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Forsyth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:46 pm

Bones wrote:Look at the bottom left of his hand, you can see he is holding something clearly in it and it is sticking out

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What's the opinion, could it be a keyfob similar to the one shown here (perhaps a different design, but the same general idea)?

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Bones » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:47 pm

Forsyth wrote:
NYGman wrote:Any experts out there who can deblur the dock web address or solve it with brute force aaliner.cc -> zzliner.cc?

http://www.onliner.cc/


Great find... Here is a manual for the service in German

http://new.onliner.cc/manual/deutsch/be ... ung_PC.pdf

onkey team wrote:der clevere OnKeY ist einer für alle. Viele haben unzählige Bonuskarten von Filialisten im
geld-
börsel. da wäre kein Platz mehr für viele Klein- und mittelbetriebe.
ein OnKeY für alle ist super und der ist am Schlüsselbund. Bonuspunkte sammeln und beim
nächsten einkauf einlösen.
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money-
Börsel. there is no more space would be for many small and medium companies.
a OnKey for all is great and is on a key chain. collect bonus points and the
Redeem next shopping.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Bones » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:53 pm

Bones wrote:If you watch the clip on youtube in the slowest speed, you will see (between 30 and 35 seconds) that the name on the card ends in 'nes' (at the top right of the card as it sticks out from behind the phone), yet the name on the 'app' is "Martina Stein"


Same name on the onliner.cc website

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Fearnchase » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:15 pm

This is Peters rant after the the ombudsman decision was posted on his web site, he says he has several people there in newcastle under lyme who have been threatened, yet Peter hasnt actually physically moved into the offices......


Peter Of England
12 mins ·
The trolls print a statement about "what the Ombudsman says". How many of you out there believe that the Ombudsmen are anything other than "juiced in" Aldermen and Masonic mouth-pieces protecting the banks at all/any cost? But the troll brigade LOVE them and hang upon their every word - so that makes trolls what? ESTABLISHMENT FIGURES, too, does it not?
Anyone paying heed to one word of the infantile clap-trap coming forth from them is missing a rather big point here - and that point is
:They quote only "the official government line" and "argue abusively, violently, threateningly and dualistically that THEIR MIGHT IS RIGHT and anyone who disagrees get's trolled. Now is that the sort of evolved society we wish to move towards? I suggest not - theirs is the path of coercion, violence and intimidation and we have several people here in Newcastle under Lyme, our offices who will testify to this. They have all been on the "threat and intimidation" end of these creatures activities and are most displeased.
The Ombudsman - a totally independent and impartial mouth-peice for sure. All of you reading this ask yourself one question: "Why is it that these opponents of WeRe Bank are so full-on dedicated to maintaining the "status quo", supporting the City Institutions and the banking cartel, and debilitating a phenomenon found in 30 + countries with over 12,000 + registrants. The troll brigade says you are ALL wrong and they are going to make it so! Is anyone missing the point here? Does this not smack of tyranny? Is this not what the Puppet Master's preach?

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Footloose52 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:22 pm

Gosh, an average of 400 registrants per country. I'm quaking in my shoes at the impact that is going to have :lol:

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby littleFred » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:36 pm

Zeke_the_Meek wrote:... or whether he's just outright conning people. This firmly settles the matter.

Yes. He's taken an onliner.cc reader and NFC, and pretended his card activates his application. But it's a lie.

The lie is because he wants to sell his cards. The cards do nothing, and certainly won't bring about any economic collapse, except for suckers who put any faith in them.

littleFred wrote:... and the cards will [be] useful only for scraping ice off car windows.

I was wrong. If they are merely card or stout paper, they can't even be used for that purpose.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby NYGman » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:40 pm

Bones wrote:
Bones wrote:If you watch the clip on youtube in the slowest speed, you will see (between 30 and 35 seconds) that the name on the card ends in 'nes' (at the top right of the card as it sticks out from behind the phone), yet the name on the 'app' is "Martina Stein"


Same name on the onliner.cc website

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Totally BUSTED!! Not only is it a keyfob, not a card, the app is a demo app, with the same name on it as the website displays. This is another case of PoE's Vapor Ware but is now overtly a Fraud, as there is no legitimacy behind his new cards. While maybe you could argue up to now, he has believed in what he has been doing, The slight of hand, out of focus video, and misrepresentation of existing technology as his own, it is now absolutely at the point of outright scam, not that it wasn't before.

By the way, https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... aben&hl=en is that the app (Looks like it was designed for Android 2.3)
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Fearnchase » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:48 pm

Peter has made demands to the New Zealand Banking Ombudsman

Public and open letter of rebuttal to the NZ Banking Ombudsman - CORPORATE RANT on it's website: I have told them to take down the defamatory remarks for "quoting the UK FCA as issuing a WARNING" about WeRe Bank, which they did NOT and also using the words SCAM and BOGUS.
I'm surprised that they didn't claim WeRe Bank was responsible for 9/11 too.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Forsyth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:48 pm

Bones wrote:Same name on the onliner.cc website

So we seem to have gone from a fully featured and completely independent payment card system to a demonstration version of someone else's loyalty card platform.

Of course it could be that Peter intends using this system to work as a method of payment. After all, if you told a loyalty card system vendor that you call your loyalty points 'Re's' then they probably wouldn't blink so long as you handed over the cash. Loyalty points can often be 'spent' in store, so there's usually a transaction method built in to the system as well.

What loyalty card systems usually lack is widespread acceptance or any significant security on transactions. Whether this is a concern to Peter or his customers is another matter, as is the question of will anyone actually pay up to have a terminal or 'card' (I have no doubt the keyfob could be replaced with an RFID tag embedded into a card).

It would be interesting to know what onliner.cc/Onkey's relationship is with Peter and WereBank and what they understand of his business model...

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Footloose52 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:54 pm

Actually it was a rather longer rant than posted by Fearnchase:

Peter Of England
49 mins ·

Public and open letter of rebuttal to the NZ Banking Ombudsman - CORPORATE RANT on it's website: I have told them to take down the defamatory remarks for "quoting the UK FCA as issuing a WARNING" about WeRe Bank, which they did NOT and also using the words SCAM and BOGUS.
I'm surprised that they didn't claim WeRe Bank was responsible for 9/11 too.

The trolls print a statement about "what the Ombudsman says". How many of you out there believe that the Ombudsmen are anything other than "juiced in" Aldermen and Masonic mouth-pieces protecting the banks at all/any cost? But the troll brigade LOVE them and hang upon their every word - so that makes trolls what? ESTABLISHMENT FIGURES, too, does it not?

Anyone paying heed to one word of the infantile clap-trap coming forth from them is missing a rather big point here - and that point is
:They quote only "the official government line" and "argue abusively, violently, threateningly and dualistically that THEIR MIGHT IS RIGHT and anyone who disagrees get's trolled. Now is that the sort of evolved society we wish to move towards? I suggest not - theirs is the path of coercion, violence and intimidation and we have several people here in Newcastle under Lyme, our offices who will testify to this. They have all been on the "threat and intimidation" end of these creatures activities and are most displeased.

The Ombudsman - a totally independent and impartial mouth-peice for sure. All of you reading this ask yourself one question: "Why is it that these opponents of WeRe Bank are so full-on dedicated to maintaining the "status quo", supporting the City Institutions and the banking cartel, and debilitating a phenomenon found in 30 + countries with over 12,000 + registrants. The troll brigade says you are ALL wrong and they are going to make it so! Is anyone missing the point here? Does this not smack of tyranny? Is this not what the Puppet Master's preach?

BBC RADIO 4 QUESTIONS WHICH WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSED ON THE RADIO BUT WERE NEVER AIRED OR BROADCAST

"""" The day is """"""" = The questions posed to me in an email from the BBC the day before broadcast

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ QUESTIONS BEGIN ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

""""On Thursday 28th we’ll be discussing WeRe bank on our program. Particularly we’ll be discussing claims that the ‘Re’ cheques that you issue can’t be used by customers to pay debts.""""""

FIRST OF ALL ANYONE ARGUING FOR MORE OF THE SAME WHICH THE HIGH STREET BANKS OVERSEEN BY THE BANK OF ENGLAND AN UK TREASURY SPOON OUT TO THEM HAS NO PLACE IN A HUMANITARIAN SOCIETY OR EVOLVING PLANETARY SOCIETY. THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND FAILING AND FOR THOSE TO PRONNOUNCE MORE OF THE SAME BASED ON THE PREVIOUS TRACK RECORD ARE MORTAL ENEMIES OF MANKIND. That being said

WERE BANK UTILISES MONETARY UNIT OF ACCOUNT/CHEQUE BOOK MONEY OR BANK LEDGER MONEY IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE PAYMENTS SYSTEM OF DEBT ERADICATION. IN ADDITION IT HAS CREATED IT'S OWN MONETARY UNIT CALLED THE Re.

JUST LIKE THE HIGH STREET BANKS AND THE PRIVATELY INCORPORATED BANK OF ENGLAND
ONLY AROUNd 1% OF ALL “MONEY” ON THE PLANET IS AVAILABLE IN NOTES OR COIN. IN EFFECT IT IS NOT MONEY AT ALL - it is currency -

BANKS DO NOT LEND MONEY AND IT IS FRAUDULENT FOR THEM TO CLAIM THAT THEY DO
THEY ONLY FACILITATE CURRENCY PROVISION - NUMBERS ON A SCREEN

99% IS BANK LEDGER MONEY OR DIGITS UPON A COMPUTER SCREEN

""""""""We’ll be speaking to the Financial Ombudsman who have had a number of complaints brought to them of ‘Re’ cheques bouncing, they say:"""""

1 FIRST OF ALL THEY ARE NOT RE CHEQUES BUT BANKERS DRAFTS/CASHIERS CHEQUES OR TELLERS CHEQUES.

2THEY CANNOT BOUNCE AS THEY ARE PRE-CLEARED AND GUARANTEED.
CLEARED MEANS THAT THE FUNDS ARE APPORTIONED AND PLACED ON COLLECTION AWAITING CALL FORWARD BY THE PAYEES BANK – THE HIGH STREET BANKING CARTEL .
THEIR REFUSAL IS TO CALL THE CURRENCY FORWARD IS IN STRICT VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 101 ON THE TREATY ON THE FUNCTIONING OF THE EUROPEAN UNION as well as UNIFORM RULES OF COLLECTION 522

THEY ARE ISSUED IN THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY IN WHICH THEY ARE TENDERED AND NOT IN Re.

""""""""WeRe Bank cheques are not valid and is invented currency
INCORRECT – WERE BANK DEALS ON THE PUBLIC SIDE IN fractional reserve currencies AND ON THE private side in a currency called the Re. The two are anti-sympathetic to each other.""""

""""""""WeRE Bank hasn’t got the money to pay off the cheques, the sort code on the cheques is made up.""""

1.TWO POINTS HERE – NO BANK HAS MONEY THESE DAYS. THE OMBUDSMAN AND THE SHILL FSA MISTAKE CURRENCY FOR MONEY. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AND THE BANK OF ENGLAND KNOWS IT. MONEY IS A STORE OF WEALTH OVER TIME AND FUNGIBLE

CURRENCY IS WORTHLESS FIAT PAPER RUN OFF A PRINTING PRESS – IT HAS NO BACKING AND IS BASED ON USURY

MAYBE THE OMBUDSMAN AND THE ENTIRE CITY OF LONDON KNOWS THIS TOO!

WERE BANK HAS BETTER “MONEY” IN ITS VAULTS THAN THE HIGH STREET BANKS AND UK TREASURY – THAT MONEY IS PROMISES TO PAY – PROMISES TO PERFORM ARE THE ONLY “MONEY”/CURRENCY THE BANKS HAVE – THESE TAKE THE FORM OF DEBT OBLIGATIONS/LOANS/MORTGAGES/CREDIT AGREEMENTS – ALL ROBBING PROSPERITY FROM THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO PAY FOR ACTIVITIES TODAY – THE DEFICIT IN BOTH THE UK AND USA IS PROOF THAT THE SYSTEM IS FRAUDULENT- THIS IS CALLED DEFICIT SPENDING AND IS UNLAWFUL. IF YOU OR I CONDUCTED OURSELVES LIKE THIS THEN WE WOULD BE DECLARED BANKRUPT IMMEDIATELY AND IMPRISONED FOR FRAUD AND CONTINUING TO DECEIVE CREDITORS. See BOE Money Creation in a Modern Economy

2. THE SORT CODE IS JUST AN ADDRESS TO POINT TO A LOCATION OF FACILITY WHERE THE “ARTICLE 3 UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT CAN BE PRESENTED.
THE FINGER MAY POINT TO THE MOON – BUT DO NOT CONFUSE THE FINGER WITH THE MOON

""""WeRe Bank isn’t a bank, and so has no authority to issue cheques""""

1.SEE THE BILLS OF EXCHANGE ACT 1882

PART 1 (2) INTERPRETATION OF TERMS:
“BANKER” INCLUDES A BODY OF PERSONS INCORPORATED OR NOT WHO CARRY OUT THE BUSINESS OF BANKING. The Test for what constitutes BANKING HAS BEEN DEFINED BY LORD DENNING AND OTHERS:

see United Dominions Trust v Kirkwood(2)
The Court of Appeal defined 3 elements for determining whether or not a person is a banker:

1- The nature of the banking services provided.
2- The importance of these services in relation to the business as a whole.
3- The reputation of the institution.

Lord Denning also found that the following were characteristics usually found in the business of banking:

a- Accepting money from and collecting cheques for customers and placing these at the credit of the customers’ accounts.
b- Honouring cheques or orders drawn on bankers by the customers when presented for payment, and debiting their customers’ accounts.
c- Keeping running accounts for customers in which debits and credits were entered....

also

Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th Edition, page 133, defines a “Banker” as, “In general sense, person that engages in business of banking. In narrower meaning, a private person………; who is engaged in the business of banking without being incorporated.

Under some statutes, an individual banker, as distinguished from a “private banker”, is a person who, having complied with the statutory requirements, has received authority from the state to engage in the business of banking, while a private banker is a person engaged in banking without having any special privileges or authority from the state. “

2. BANKING IS POSSIBLY THE 2ND OLDEST PROFESSION IN THE WORLD
WAS THERE BANKING BEFORE THE FSA/FCA CAME INTO BEING? HAS BANKING BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME?

BANKING IS LIKE GARDENING, TEACHING, COOKING, BREATHING, PAINTING, SINGING, PARENTING – NO ONE HAS TO GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO DO IT – EVERY MAN AND WOMAN HAS THE DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO ARRANGE HIS/HER FINANCIAL AFFAIRS TO BEST SUIT HIS/HER NEEDS.
THE MOMENT THE CENTRAL PRIVATE BANK OF ENGLAND WAS ALLOWED TO ISSUE THE CURRENCY THEN EVERYONE WAS FORCED INTO A CUL DE SAC CALLED DEBT SLAVERY. IRREBUTABLE FACT
INFLATION/INTEREST/TAXATION FOLLOW LIKE FIRST COUSINS AT A FUNERAL

"""""""Imaginary energy units are not a form of currency and they do not pay debts""""""

WERE BANKS MEMBERS PAY ALL THEIR DEBTS WITH A VALID AND LAWFUL FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT FULLY RECOGNISED THE WORLD OVER DENOMINATED IN THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THAT DEBT "WAS SUPPOSEDLY" INCURRED

ALL CORPORATIONS ARE ALLOWED AND EXPECTED AND OBLIGED TO ACCEPT PROMISSORY NOTES FOR SETTLEMENT AND PAYMENT – THIS IS A BASIC TENET OF THEIR MEMORANDA & ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION – THEY ARE STANDARD TERMS – WITHOUT THIS FUNCTIONALITY NO BUSINESS COULD OPERATE DUE TO THE SHORTAGE OF PHYSICAL CASH NOTES.

""""WeRe Bank is “potentially a scam” to get membership money in return for fake cheques”"""""

“POTENTIALLY A SCAM” CAN MEAN ALMOST ANYTHING CANNOT IT NOT?

AND WHO IS MAKING THIS ACCUSATION? NOT THE FCA – THEY MENTION NOTHING IN THIS MANNER IT IS MOST INTERESTING THAT WHEN THE FCA MADE ITS STATEMENT LAST YEAR IT ONLY ISSUED A CONSUMER NOTICE – NOT EVEN A WARNING- if we are all the things which the “press” claims as opposed to what the Regulatory Authorities state, then why are we still operational now into our 4th year?

ON THE SUBJECT OF MEMBERSHIP MONEY - IT IS SO SMALL AN AMOUNT THAT IT IS NOT EVEN WORTH THE MENTION AS A VEILED ACCUSATION OF IMPROPRIETY – IN ADDITION IT IS A MEMBERSHIP FEE TO A POLITICAL ORGANISATION

WeRe Bank IS A HUMANITARIAN RELIEF PROJECT
WE HAVE OUR INSTRUMENTS IN OVER 30 COUNTRIES WITH OVER 12,000 + REGISTRATIONS.

WHEN WAS THE LAST REPORTED CASE THAT ANYONE LOOKED TO SCAM A PLANET? WITH THE FEDERAL RESERVE, BANK FOR INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS AND THE BANK OF ENGLAND CASE EXCLUDED OF COURSE!

POINT 2
THE CHEQUES CANNOT BE FAKE AS IT IS ONLY WeRe BANK WHO CAN DECLARE THEM SO AND IT WILL NEVER DO THAT – UNLESS THEY ARE COPIED OR DUPLICATED. IF THAT WAS THE CASE IT WOULD ONLY SERVE BETTER THE STATEMENT THAT MANY WANT CHANGE.

IF ANY STATEMENT ABOUT FAKE/COUNTERFEIT OR FRAUD IS MADE THEN IS OBVIOUS TO ALL THAT THE ONLY AGENCY OR ASSOCIATION WHICH CAN VERIFY THAT IS THE CREATING INSTITUTON OR HUMAN BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION OR MANUFACTURE. LOOK (for example) AT ROLEX/CARTIER/BENETON/RAY BAN/SONY/LOUIS VUITTON – IF THERE IS AN ALLEGATION OF FAKERY THEN IT IS ONLY THE HOUSE OF THOSE PRODUCTS “EXCLUSIVELY” WHICH CAN PRONOUNCE THEM FAKE OR NOT.

"""""We’ll be talking about this particular case and the decision made by the Ombudsmen which can be found here - http://www.ombudsman-decisions.org.uk/viewPDF.aspx…""""""

THE OMBUDSMAN GETS IT AS WRONG AS IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ONE MAN TO GET IT WRONG. HE MAKES ERRORS OF FACT AS WELL AS LAW AND IS THE PARAGON OF INCOMPETENCE BY DELIBERATELY CONFUSING THE PEOPLE WITH MORE “MONEY JARGON”.

NOT A MEMBER OF SWIFT? WHAT IS SWIFT?
A private Belgian telecoms company - virtually extinct
WHAT IS LEGAL TENDER – PROMISSORY NOTES ISSUED FROM A BANK
BOE NOTES ARE PROMISSORY NOTES
THE SURETY ON THE NOTES IS WHOM?

""""""We’ll also hear from the Financial Conduct Authority who say:
-WeRe bank are not authorised and therefore are not a bank""""""""

WERE BANK OPERATES UNDER COMMON LAW AND ON LAND – DO HUMAN BEINGS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONDUCT FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THE “STATE” WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FICTIONAL NON-FINDABLE PHENOMENON?

WERE BANK OPERATES OUTSIDE THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AS IT IS
(a) NOT SELLING FINANCIAL PRODUCTS AND
(b) IS NOT LOOKING TO JOIN THE JUICED IN CLUB/CARTEL WHICH RELIES ON GOVERNMENTAL/STATE SPONSORED BACK-HANDERS IN ORDER TO MAKE OBSCENE PROFIT OFF THE PUBLIC VIA EXCESSIVE AND IMMORAL DEBT CREATION USING CURRENCY INSTEAD OF MONEY

THE FCA HAS NO AUTHORITY IN THESE MATTERS WITH WHICH WERE BANK AND ITS MEMBERS PARTICIPATE. IT IS A MERE LEGAL FICTION AND IS JUST A BOUGHT AND PAID FOR MOUTH-PIECE OF THE BANKING CARTEL
IT IS A PRIVATE COMPANY
IT IS NOT IMPARTIAL
IT SERVES VESTED INTEREST
IT OVERSEES AN IMMENSITY OF WRONG-DOING DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND
IT IS A PORTAL FOR APACS –The Association of Payment Clearing Services (Now the UK Payments Admin) which includes BACS/CHAPS and THE CHEQUE AND CREDIT CLEARING COMPANY

THESE ARE ALL PRIVATE CORPORATIONS – TRYING TO TELL A HUMAN BEINGS WHAT TO DO

"""""""WeRe bank is a danger to vulnerable people by promising to pay debts it can’t pay"""""""

ACCORDING TO THE BRITISH MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION OVER 4 MILLION HOMES HAVE BEEN REPOSSESSED OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS IN THE UK – THE FIGURE IS PROBABLY A LOT HIGHER.

THE FCA AND OMBUDSMAN HAVE AIDED NONE OF THEM AND THE PROBLEMS CONTINUE.

WHO'S AT CAUSE HERE FOR THE p<p+i% dilemma WeRe Bank or the cartel?

BANK AFTER BANK HAS BEEN FINED FOR CRIMINAL CONDUCT BUT NO BANKERS IMPRISONED

WERE BANK HAS NOT BEEN FINED AND NEVER WILL BE!

BARCLAYS FINED
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34930492

http://www.itv.com/…/2…/barclays-fined-record-284-4-million/

WELLS FARGO FINED
http://uk.reuters.com/…/us-usa-banks-fines-idUSKBN0KV2C0201…

BANK OF IRELAND FINED
http://www.standard.co.uk/…/fsa-slaps-fine-on-bank-of-irela…

DEUTSCHE BANK FINED
https://www.fca.org.uk/…/deutsche-bank-fined-by-fca-for-lib…

HSBC FINED
http://www.theguardian.com/…/hsbc-fined-278m-over-moneylaun…

NAT WEST FINED
https://www.fca.org.uk/…/fca-fines-rbs-and-natwest-for-fail…

SANTANDER FINED
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/santander-u ... tment-fine

RBS FINED
http://news.sky.com/…/banks-fined-nearly-4bn-over-exchange-…

NOTHERN ROCK FINED
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20679511

GOLDMAN SACHS FINED
http://www.housingwire.com/…/35489-goldman-sachs-fined-50-m…

JP MORGAN FINED
http://www.theguardian.com/…/jp-morgan-chase-fines-legal-fe…

BANK OF AMERICA FINED
http://www.theguardian.com/…/bank-of-america-record-settlem…

WeRe Bank: NOT FINED !

FOR “”VULNERABLE PEOPLE”” READ PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THEIR WITS END AND ARE ABOUT TO LOSE ALL THEY HAVE. WHO HAS CREATED THIS VULNERABILITY? WERE BANK OR THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM PROTECTED BY THE TROLLS AND ENEMIES OF WeRe Bank?

THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE INHERENT FLAWS IN THE BANKING AND FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND THE OVER-RIDING DESIRE FOR ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY – PROFIT AT ANY COST!

ONCE THE WERE BANK CHEQUE HAS BEEN DRAWN UP BY THE DRAWER THE DEED IS DONE. THE LIABILITY HAS EITHER BEEN PAID OFF OR IT HAS NOT. IF IT HAS NOT THEN EVERY SINGLE FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT UPON WHICH THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL BANKING AN NDFINANCIAL SERVICE IS PREDICATED IS VOID

The Touchstone question is: “Is the promissory note that the member signs valid? Yes or no? ReMember it is his/her promissory note and NOT WeRe Bank’s, something which the shills and trolls choose to singularly ignore. They know that they cannot go there – ask why and they drift into a maniacal diatribe about “personal wrong doing” by Peter of England.

"""""""Customers are unlikely to be able to use the Re cheques and instead may receive additional charges from creditors as a result of late payments""""""""

ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN SERIOUS TROUBLE BEFORE THEY ENGAGE WITH THE SOLUTION OF LAST RESORT – AND UNLIKELY DOES NOT MEAN IMPOSSIBLE.

We have numerous examples of DEBT (so called) being cleared with WeRe Bank Article 3 UCC instruments

The people are offered a choice and a way to change the system – any one opposing this is a firm friend of the NOW, The banking cartels, big government and NO friend of the people. They should be treated accordingly.

"""""""And we’ll also be discussing a court case in Canada brought against Servus Credit Ltd by a WeRe bank user, Mr Parlee.""""""" The conclusions were:
MR PARLEE WAS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF HIS FIGHT WHEN HE CONTACTED WERE BANK – MUCH HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE IN ERROR BY MR PARLEE AS HE HAD HAD A HOTCH-POTCH OF LEGAL ADVICE AND THE FACT HE HAD USED A WERE BANK “NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT” WAS THE REASON HE WAS RIDICULED AS MUCH AS HE WAS AS THERE IS A VERY FIERCE ASSAULT UPON ANY CHALLENGE TO THE STATUS QUO IN CANADA – THE FACTS OF THE CASE HAVE BEEN EXTENSIVELY REBUTTED BY MYSELF IN THE DOCUMENT ATTACHED TO YOU NOW AND JUDGE SCHLOSSER IS GUILTY OF MANY CRIMES WHICH DO NOT STOP AT STUPIDITY AND BEING UNFIT TO HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE, SPREADING MALICIOUS FALSEHOOD AND NEGLIGENT MISSTATEMENT AND PRACTISING LAW FROM THE BENCH.........but the trolls love the judges as they are paid lackey's of same.

A WRIT OF QUO WARRANTO WAS ASKED FOR TO UNSEAT HIM

HE IS PART OF A MASONIC OVERSIGHT MECHANISM IN THE CANADIAN COURTS – NOTHING NEW THERE FOR SURE.

""""""WeRe bank is a fraud and the cheques are as worthless as magic beans""""""

Herr Schlosser FAILED AT EVERY STAGE TO STATE HOW IT COULD BE A FRAUD. HE USED BANAL BAR ROOM RHETORIC.

HE ADDRESSES THE ISSUE OF THE UNIT CALLED Re AND CONFUSES IT PURPOSEFULLY/IGNORANTLY WITH THE CANADIAN DOLLAR, IN WHICH THE CHEQUE WAS PRESENTED.

HE FAILS TO EXPLAIN THE CONUNDRUM/ THE CONTRADICTION OF HOW THE PROMISSORY NOTE, AS A LAWFUL AND ENFORCEABLE FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT IS COMPLETELY VALID AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED LEST IT GET MR PARLEE IN DEEPER DEBT – YET AT THE SAME TIME STATES THAT THE INSTRUMENT WITH WHICH MR PARLEE ATTEMPTS TO PAY SERVUS CREDIT UNION –THE CHEQUE - IN EFFECT THAT WHICH SUBTENDS THE PROMISSORY NOTE – IS TOTALLY INVALID AND WORTHLESS!!

THIS IS ALICE IN WORDERLAND II

HE FAILED ALSO TO ADDRESS THE MECHANICS OF BANKING AND THE NATURE OF THE PROMISE . HE ATTEMPTS TO INTRODUCE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF COURT ROOM HISTRIONICS THE NATURE OF A TWIN TRACK OF PROMISES/ DEGREES OF PROMISE GIVING IN EFFECT!

PROMISES TO WEREBANK ARE INVALID BUT TO ANYONE ELSE ARE VALID!

HE ALSO USED “SELECTIVE CONCLUSIONING” TO DERIDE THE PURPOSE AND ETHICS OF WERE BANK

EVERY ESTABLISHMENT WHICH HAS USED WORDS LIKE FAKE OR SCAM ABOUT WERE BANK WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS INCLUDING THE FCA IN JERSEY HAS RETRACTED THESE CLAIMS FROM THEIR WEBSITES WHEN CHALLENGED – This should now be so for the troll sites too.

""""Servus’ refusal to accept a particular form of payment is legal"""""

THERE EXISTS A VERY GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGAL AND LAWFUL
THE LAWFUL THING TO DO WAS NOT TO ALLOW MR PARLEE'S HOME TO BE TAKEN FROM HIM UNTIL A JURY TRIAL, CONCLUDED IN A COURT OF EQUITY IN THE CHANCERY DIVISION OF THE HIGH COURT DECIDED IT SHOULD BE TAKEN – THAT WAS THE TRAVESTY AS THERE WAS A TRUST IN EXISTENCE PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT TWO PEOPLE WERE CLAIMING THE SAME PROPERTY. TWO TITLES WERE ON ISSUE – THE LEGAL AND THE EQUITABLE. THE ISSUES OF LEGAL TITLE AND MR PARLEES EQUITABLE TITLE WERE NEVER TOUCHED UPON. A GROSS MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE – FREEMAN OR NOT

-The cheques were rejected by Servus because Servus insisted on payment by certified cheque or bank draft and would not discuss Mr Parlee’s ‘freeman theories of money and banking’

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MR PARLEE DID PAY WITH A FULLY CERTIFIED INSTRUMENT – See UCC Article 3

"""""""We air between 12:15 and 13:00 on Thursday, would you be interested in recording an interview with us on the afternoon of the 27th? If not can you please provide us a statement addressing the complaints by noon on the 27th. """"""

Kind regards,

Lilly

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby NYGman » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:06 pm

Footloose52 wrote:Actually it was a rather longer rant than posted by Fearnchase:

Peter Of England
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Public and open letter of rebuttal to the NZ Banking Ombudsman [SNIP]


What utter Garbage. more words does not necessarily mean a more correct answer.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby rumpelstilzchen » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:23 pm

NYGman wrote:

Totally BUSTED!!

The spiv has been exposed.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Zeke_the_Meek » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:34 pm

Actually it was a rather longer rant than posted by Fearnchase:


Indeed it is. Originally it was only paragraphs 2-4; looking at time stamps, me must have added all that other drivel at a keyboard-melting rate of knots. Another confirmation of something we've long suspected: he types his barely literate bollocks stream of consciousness-style.

He's clearly enraged because his latest scam - that he no doubt thought was genius - has been thoroughly exposed in half a morning. Having a bad day, Peter?

Oh, and deleting comments on FB rather than answering is proof of both your cowardice and idiocy (not to mention and admission of guilt.) If you'd had half a brain, you would have just said it was your car keys in your hand or a milk carton for the tea you just bought, or something. Christ, I'm a better scammer than you and I don't even scam, bro.

Have fun refreshing your Facebook feed every two minutes just in case more people post about the scam. I'm glad you're being kept occupied.
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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby Jeffrey » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:35 pm

So does this mean Peter reads the thread?

WERE BANK HAS NOT BEEN FINED AND NEVER WILL BE!


Yeah, the thing about that is, check fraud on your scale is punished by imprisonment not fines.

”VULNERABLE PEOPLE”” READ PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THEIR WITS END AND ARE ABOUT TO LOSE ALL THEY HAVE. WHO HAS CREATED THIS VULNERABILITY?


That's not a defense Petey boy. Just because the people you take advantage of were already screwed to begin with doesn't justify you squeezing them out of what little money they had left and also exposing them to the risk of prosecution for financial fraud.

You're just as bad as the crooked bankers you mention. The only difference between them and you is you lack the opportunity, intelligence, connections and resources to pull off a scam on their level. I personally will cheer the day you're sentenced to a lengthy jail sentence.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby mufc1959 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:36 pm

So, before he was on the BBC Radio 4 programme, the BBC researcher asked PoE about a number of issues that'd be addressed in the report on WeRe Bank. In reply to her very reasonable questions, she got a multi-screen CAPSLOCK RANT, thus confirming any other research she might have done which said that PoE is both a nutter and a conman.

"""" The day is """"""" = The questions posed to me in an email from the BBC the day before broadcast

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ QUESTIONS BEGIN ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

""""On Thursday 28th we’ll be discussing WeRe bank on our program. Particularly we’ll be discussing claims that the ‘Re’ cheques that you issue can’t be used by customers to pay debts."""""" (snipped)

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheNewSaint » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:22 pm

Zeke_the_Meek wrote:Another confirmation of something we've long suspected: he types his barely literate bollocks stream of consciousness-style.


What's really revealing is the context in which he does this. Considering he's responding to a real government body which has just declared him a scam, you'd think he'd choose his words more carefully. Maybe even do a little proofreading! Not this guy. He's far more concerned with placating his little corner of the Internet. Which reveals Peter's true motive, which is not to make his venture legitimate, but to keep his marks on the hook for as long as possible.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby TheNewSaint » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:59 pm

Forsyth wrote:It would be interesting to know what onliner.cc/Onkey's relationship is with Peter and WereBank and what they understand of his business model...


I doubt Peter has any relationship with this company. He may have inquired with them about bulk pricing, documentation, etc., which would be reasonable steps if he were going to go through with this scheme. But that would not constitute a business relationship.

Personally, I think he just bought one of their devices, for the sole purpose of making this video. And that could have been done through a third party: RFID/NFC devices of this sort are widely available via eBay.

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Re: Peter of England and WeaRe not a Bank

Postby NYGman » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:09 pm

Again, the fact that he is clearly palming a keyfob, which can be partially seen in the video freeze-frame, while holding a fake card up to the reader is clear evidence of deceit. Up until now, he could still claim to believe in his crap, and there was an air of honesty, as he was living his lies, but this slight of hand stunt, reminds me of those faith healers who palm chicken parts, then seem to magically remove tumors without out any incision marks. They know they are dishonest, just as Peter knows his cards are a complete scam, and do not work as demonstrated. Not only did he show a new level of dishonesty, his slight of hand display was pathetic, and shouldn't really fool anyone. My 6yr old boys could do the trick better. He could have taped the keyfob to the back of his hand, allowing him to hold the card more naturally, but he can't even get this right.

This outright fraudulent display of his cards working should be the last nail in his coffin. However, it does occur to me that this level of ineptness may be purposeful. Anyone who buys this phony display of his "Cards at work" is probably to daft to realize they are being scammed. The classic 419 ploy to discourage those too intelligent to fall for the obvious scam. Has anyone posted this discovery yet to PoEs facebook page? Wonder how he will explain the scam, or how long it takes to delete.
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