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The Observer wrote:One theory behind punitive fees is to give people an incentive to not fail at paying their taxes or fees or citations timely.
The fees are not punitive, they are calculated to allow for small profit.

They are being added unlawfully in cases where the debtor either pays or enters into a repayment plan.
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Tuco wrote:You do realise that many bailiff issues arise from CCJ's amounting to many thousands of pounds? It's not all £195 council tax arrears or £202 PCN debts you know?

Whereas you may be fortunate enough to have 5 grand in your back pocket, I can assure you that many others don't. Bailiffs are charging debtors over £2,000 for one visit in these cases, on top of what is owed. The situation in these cases is worse now than it has ever been, yet nobody is doing anything about it.

You may well think my spat with Bungle is childish-I can assure you it is not. She is causing severe harm to genuine debtors all in order to fuel her campaign against a business rival. She is equally as dangerous as BTAB in my opinion.
County Court judgments amount to just 1% of the 6 million debts being enforced by bailiffs each year (only 66,000 judgments are passed to the High Court Enforcement agencies each year). I will be the first to admit that the fee scale introduced by the government for the collection of these debts (which by the way, is a different fee scale to all other debts) needs to be reviewed under the forthcoming ‘Three Year Review’ (which I will be taking part in). One particular company' (and we all know who that is) have a very odd way of interpreting the wording of the regulations and use this to their advantage. I have come across the same problem many times…but in my case, the charges do get reduced because I take the correct course of action…..by making a complaint to the High Court Enforcement Officers Association (HCEOA). That is what the Association is set up for.

Can I just reiterate that your spat with me is not only childish is it extremely worrying.

I have had my Bailiff Advice Online website for just over 10 years. In all of that time, I have assisted many thousands of individuals. I am also a frequent contributor to the Consumer Action Group Forum where I have also been posting for 10 years. Last year, I was a frequent contributor on BTBATB until I committed the deadly sin of suggesting that a debtor should consider entering into a payment arrangement with an enforcement company. Strangely enough, it wasn’t Nadine who booted me out. I returned after a short while, and was booted out a second time after criticising the admin team for suggesting that anyone faced with a bailiff visit for an unpaid penalty charge notice should get the warrant suspended by completing an ‘Out of Time’ Statutory Declaration to ‘claim’ that they had not known of the parking debt. The individuals were not to know that if they were found to be lying on a Statutory Declaration they could be prosecuted for perjury.

You are a frequent poster on the Bailiff Help Forum (previously as Mark1960) and as such, you are a very new entrant into the ‘bailiff advice’ sector. You have been posting for just 3 years. The problem that you and your Guru (Jason) have is that you both have an obsession against me that has reached frightening levels. In fact, you are far worse than he is!!

With the exception of this forum, I mentioned the real name of your ‘Guru’ on three occasions over the past 4 years. Your real name has been mentioned just once. Upon checking last night, it is evident that you or your Guru (mainly you) have posted my real name on the Bailiff Help Forum over 320 times !! It is now a frequent occurrence to find my home address given as well with silly references to your Guru intending to visit my home. Even my husband’s name is being posted.

Yesterday, the Guru introduced a new page to his website. In this page he is asking the public to ring my business help line, record the call and upload it to his website where there are presently two other recorded phone calls publicly available.

As far as I am concerned, The Bailiff Help Forum ( and the DWB site) are certainly not ‘business rivals’ and any suggestion that they may be is frankly insulting.

Your obsession with me is now continuing on this forum. I have been posting on here as Bungle for over a year and thoroughly enjoy taking part in the discussions about FMoTL, Sov Cit, Tom Crawford and others. Only a week ago you discovered that I am posting here and almost immediately, you have now registered and once again, are here to attack me.

Please take your obsession elsewhere.
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Ok. You've both had your say. And we've seen what can happen when these imported quarrels get out of hand. So, i'm asking you to stick to the topics that this site is intended for.

Ok?
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grixit wrote:Ok. You've both had your say. And we've seen what can happen when these imported quarrels get out of hand. So, i'm asking you to stick to the topics that this site is intended for.

Ok?
Sorry, my last post crossed this one.

I hope you will allow it to stay, given the importance of seeking redress.

For someone to suggest that complaining to a bailiff about a bailiff is truly shocking. It should tell everyone what side of the fence she's on.
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Tuco wrote:
grixit wrote:Ok. You've both had your say. And we've seen what can happen when these imported quarrels get out of hand. So, i'm asking you to stick to the topics that this site is intended for.

Ok?
Sorry, my last post crossed this one.

I hope you will allow it to stay, given the importance of seeking redress.
No. Then she will want to seek redress too.

You may appeal to a higher ranking moderator if you like.
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No worries

It is a very important subject, if you want readers misled then fine.

I will post it elsewhere.
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Bungle wrote:
Last year, I was a frequent contributor on BTBATB until I committed the deadly sin of suggesting that a debtor should consider entering into a payment arrangement with an enforcement company. Strangely enough, it wasn’t Nadine who booted me out.

I returned after a short while, and was booted out a second time after criticising the admin team for suggesting that anyone faced with a bailiff visit for an unpaid penalty charge notice should get the warrant suspended by completing an ‘Out of Time’ Statutory Declaration to ‘claim’ that they had not known of the parking debt. The individuals were not to know that if they were found to be lying on a Statutory Declaration they could be prosecuted for perjury.
With these Statutory Declarations, BTBATB use a 'sticking plaster solution'.

Their legal bod (invariably Jo H) will draft the forms and tell the innocent debtor to email the forms to the courts. What she doesn't tell them tough is that the local authority have 19 days to consider what is written on the form and if they don't accept that the debtor had not known about the parking debt, the application is refused......and the warrant is taken 'off hold' and bailiff action commences again.

They make sure that they don't tell the vehicle owner that it will cost them up to £255 (this is the fee to submit an N244) to have their application reviewed.

PS: When I was first allowed to contribute on BTBATB, it was via Mark Gilliard (gas warrant specialist). What's happened to him?
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Tuco wrote:No worries

It is a very important subject, if you want readers misled then fine.

I will post it elsewhere.
Yes why not on GOODF where you post as "Butterfingers" and "Starving Mark", (among other user names).

You can also advise on the three letter system and the withdraw of implied rights notice, which you seem to be so keen on.

You are easily recognizable by your usage of abusive language to whoever dares dissagree.
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Worzel Gummidge wrote:
Tuco wrote:No worries

It is a very important subject, if you want readers misled then fine.

I will post it elsewhere.
Yes why not on GOODF where you post as "Butterfingers" and "Starving Mark", (among other user names).

You can also advise on the three letter system and the withdraw of implied rights notice, which you seem to be so keen on.

You are easily recognizable by your usage of abusive language to whoever dares dissagree.
I would, however both usernames are banned on there. What does that tell you?

The withdrawal of implied rights used to work effectively post April 2014. It assisted many weak, poor and vulnerable debtors. I used it successfully when helping debtors on many occasions.

I've posted it on BHF so people with bailiff problems will know not to do such a ridiculous thing as to as a bailiff for help in a bailiff matter.

Only one "s" in disagree btw.
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Cough cough, the topic of this thread is BTBAB - Beat the Bailiffs and Banks - worse than GOODF

Not the Tuco, Jason, Dawn, Sheila and co show
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Skeleton wrote:
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Who's best to talk to about speeding fines?


Nadine Potter LOL we don't pay here.

Stephen Worrell Never good to advise anyone to pay. Wrong fuckin community for that

Stephen Worrell So stick to the rules of the group then. Don't advise to pay
As if by magic this is happening right now on BTBATB. If this isn't proof positive the advice they give is to try and avoid paying ANYTHING then nothing is. Its also a prime example of the immediate bullying and ganging up on somebody whose only crime is to point out if you pay it early you get a discount. Guess whose leading the bullying? Nadine Potter. The criminal will no doubt be banned once a few more nasty comments are posted about her, especially if she dares to try and defend herself. No judging in this group my arse.
I've been watching it but there's no further posts. Nadine and this Worrell idiot should be ashamed of themselves. The debt is a bloody magistrate court fine for goodness sake. She must know by now that bailiffs have the right to force entry to collect these debts and NO, they do NOT need a separate warrant either. Chris Jones just turns a blind eye.
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Bungle wrote:
Skeleton wrote:
Gary Kennedy
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Who's best to talk to about speeding fines?


Nadine Potter LOL we don't pay here.

Stephen Worrell Never good to advise anyone to pay. Wrong fuckin community for that

Stephen Worrell So stick to the rules of the group then. Don't advise to pay
As if by magic this is happening right now on BTBATB. If this isn't proof positive the advice they give is to try and avoid paying ANYTHING then nothing is. Its also a prime example of the immediate bullying and ganging up on somebody whose only crime is to point out if you pay it early you get a discount. Guess whose leading the bullying? Nadine Potter. The criminal will no doubt be banned once a few more nasty comments are posted about her, especially if she dares to try and defend herself. No judging in this group my arse.
I've been watching it but there's no further posts. Nadine and this Worrell idiot should be ashamed of themselves. The debt is a bloody magistrate court fine for goodness sake. She must know by now that bailiffs have the right to force entry to collect these debts and NO, they do NOT need a separate warrant either. Chris Jones just turns a blind eye.
Not the first time when someone mentions in here Nadines bullying the posts dry up immediately.
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Tuco wrote:
Worzel Gummidge wrote:
Tuco wrote:No worries

It is a very important subject, if you want readers misled then fine.

I will post it elsewhere.
Yes why not on GOODF where you post as "Butterfingers" and "Starving Mark", (among other user names).

You can also advise on the three letter system and the withdraw of implied rights notice, which you seem to be so keen on.

You are easily recognizable by your usage of abusive language to whoever dares dissagree.
I would, however both usernames are banned on there. What does that tell you?

The withdrawal of implied rights used to work effectively post April 2014. It assisted many weak, poor and vulnerable debtors. I used it successfully when helping debtors on many occasions.

I've posted it on BHF so people with bailiff problems will know not to do such a ridiculous thing as to as a bailiff for help in a bailiff matter.

Only one "s" in disagree btw.
Implied rights used to work because some Bailiffs were not sure what it was or what it meant. They have since worked out it has no, and never has had, any legal standing and is nothing more than the meaningless gobbledegook. By success did the bailiff go away and never come back, writing the debt off because of the magic notice?

You know you wont get away the abusive language allowed on Goodf and BHF in here, provided you toe the party line of course, so you resort to a petty remark about spelling. How adult of you.
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Have you read my previous posts? I've been more abusive on here than anywhere else. I just get banned and re-register under a different username.

Implied rights DID work-Just ask Bungle, she used to try to put debtors off using it by claiming that an AOE would be even worse for them.

Bailiffs actually use top notch, specialist lawyers, they are not Ronnie Barker, open all hours.

A bailiff enforcing a private debt for council tax under a liability order had no greater power than any other member of the general public. His implied right to access a property could have been removed, just like anyone elses.

It's "tow the line" BTW

In the first instance that I used implied right of access, it was on behalf of my 7 month pregnant daughter. I tried everything to stop enforcement, after he lied in order to add fees to the account. Nobody listened so as a last resort, I used the NOROIROA, downloaded from GOODF. It was either that or my son and I would have gone round and put the bailiff in hospital for a week. The debt got returned to the council.
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Tuco wrote: It's "tow the line" BTW
I am well aware of what it is thank you, and you fell for it hook line and sinker. Welcome to my ignore list.
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rumpelstilzchen wrote:
Tuco wrote:
My son's, girlfriend's Mum has just been offered a job as a traffic warden:

£11 per hour, £5 commission for every ticket issued and £25 a week "danger" money.

Not bad, I didn't think. She'd piss £500 for a 40 hour week.
Please name the employer who pays £5 commission for every ticket issued.
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rumpelstilzchen wrote:
rumpelstilzchen wrote:
Tuco wrote:
My son's, girlfriend's Mum has just been offered a job as a traffic warden:

£11 per hour, £5 commission for every ticket issued and £25 a week "danger" money.

Not bad, I didn't think. She'd piss £500 for a 40 hour week.
Please name the employer who pays £5 commission for every ticket issued.
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No idea mate. It was just a casual conversation. I wasn't really interested other than being a bit surprised at what she was being offered to do the job.
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Tuco wrote:
No idea mate. It was just a casual conversation. I wasn't really interested other than being a bit surprised at what she was being offered to do the job.
My standards are obviously higher than your own. Without any evidence your story can be dismissed without evidence.
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rumpelstilzchen wrote:
Tuco wrote:
No idea mate. It was just a casual conversation. I wasn't really interested other than being a bit surprised at what she was being offered to do the job.
My standards are obviously higher than your own. Without any evidence your story can be dismissed without evidence.
Dismiss it all you like pal. Makes no difference to me. I was just relaying a conversation I had with someone. I've never really felt the need to investigate what a parking warden earns as I've never considered becoming one.
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