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Still bickering about whether the Baron's are on their side or not, bit of a hint here.... THEY'RE NOT !!

So then you get this..
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So as all the Barons been made to with draw the Article 61 of the M.C. If that is the case, Every citizen still have the rights of taking action, if wwe all petition all 650 MPs, and tell them they are suppose to be our representatives and they have got to do what there people want. If not we are legally can remove them from Parliament in any which way the. people see fit to remove them .
Yes, knob job, it's commonly known as democracy and surprisingly enough you get to vote and the people with the largest number of votes carry out 'what the people want' and if they don't they are legally removed at the next election.. that's how it works!! :beatinghorse:
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Yeah, the fuckwits now appear to be saying that they don't need the barons anyway. That is hilarious when you consider they have repeatedly stated that the content of Magna Carta cannot be altered or repealed in any way whatsoever but that is exactly what they have just done themselves. They are rewriting it. :haha:
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Would a dictatorship have a constitution? Apparently not! So they've now gone full circle, and it's now the people who are more powerful then any political entity. So now they're in direct conflict with the Barons over MC, they've become the ones trying to rewrite it! Unbelievable!

Grasping at straws much PLDers?
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I have been watching freetards since 2009 and I have observed there is one thing they all do without fail. Eventually each and every one of them debunk themselves.
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There must be a mathematical formula to describe the circle of freetards by now? How to reach the eventuality?

Failure = research x(proven fails / YouTubehours) + facebooking - blacks law book quotes .
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AndyPandy wrote:Yes, knob job, it's commonly known as democracy and surprisingly enough you get to vote and the people with the largest number of votes carry out 'what the people want' and if they don't they are legally removed at the next election.. that's how it works!! :beatinghorse:
Don't these guys make a point of not voting?
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One can at least hope.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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They're just waiting for the right candidate. A man whose very name is a byword for freedom and justice for all...
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History was never thier strong point.

Do they think 'Mein Kampf' is a book for kids? Or a detailed description of what Hitler hoped to achieve?

Or is his book just fake to cover up how brilliant he really was?

Is this what Britain is becoming now? A national of SS sympathetic chumps?
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If you tube offerings are any guide, it is even madder in the US. It's not so much the really crazy content, but the number of likes and often remarkably unpleasant supporting comments they get.

We may be a beacon of sanity here in Britain. The madness seems more domestic and cozy somehow. I ran across a video today whose anti-semitic droolings, like an open sewer in a dysentry hospital, might have struck Hitler as a bit etreme.
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Siegfried Shrink wrote:We may be a beacon of sanity here in Britain.
Aside from the odd baby blood for school dinners allegation. Although I suppose that shows a practical side.
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That one got pretty short shrift with most British loonies and a reasonably prompt counterblast from Hoaxstead and Mrs. Justice Pauffley.

It is still being rehashed by US Youtubers but I have seen nothing comparable from British sources for some time.
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Jace, who earlier complained that the Baron returned his oath, gets the boot.

He is no more, gone , an ex rebel (and a troll naturally)

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SteveUK wrote:Jace, who earlier complained that the Baron returned his oath, gets the boot.

He is no more, gone , an ex rebel (and a troll naturally)

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A troll again? Well that's not surprising in the slightest!

Come on, Dave. Where is this 100% success rate? It's been hiding since 2014! Unsurprisingly, I'm willing to wager most people who were on that page in 2014 are now blocked, to stop the truth getting out.
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Pottapaug1938 wrote:It's almost impossible to be convicted of treason, in the US. You either have to be "levying war" -- that's a shooting war, folks -- against the US or any of its parts (even, say, Guam); or you have to be adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. That doesn't mean that someone who is in the US and, say, posts a pro-Daesh or pro-Al-Qaeda rant online, can be convicted of treason; only if that person takes some action to actually join one of those organizations, or to a front organization which is known, to the adherer, to be connected with such an organization, can a charge of treason be sustained.

None of the Americans convicted of spying for the Soviet Union -- not even Julius and Ethel Rosenberg -- were convicted of treason.
This is all very true. I think I read somewhere that there have only been about 13 convictions for treason in the entire history of the US.

I'm sure that there would have been a lot more, after the end of the Civil War. Anyone who fought for the Confederacy, especially its leaders, like Robert E. Lee or Jefferson Davis, could not have fit the definition in the constitution any more closely. They were certainly levying war upon the United States. If I remember my history classes correctly, there were many at the time who wanted to exact vengeance upon the Confederate leaders. However, Abraham Lincoln, in his second inaugural address, called for binding the country's wounds and "with malice toward none, and charity toward all".
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noblepa wrote:
Pottapaug1938 wrote:It's almost impossible to be convicted of treason, in the US. You either have to be "levying war" -- that's a shooting war, folks -- against the US or any of its parts (even, say, Guam); or you have to be adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. That doesn't mean that someone who is in the US and, say, posts a pro-Daesh or pro-Al-Qaeda rant online, can be convicted of treason; only if that person takes some action to actually join one of those organizations, or to a front organization which is known, to the adherer, to be connected with such an organization, can a charge of treason be sustained.

None of the Americans convicted of spying for the Soviet Union -- not even Julius and Ethel Rosenberg -- were convicted of treason.
This is all very true. I think I read somewhere that there have only been about 13 convictions for treason in the entire history of the US.

I'm sure that there would have been a lot more, after the end of the Civil War. Anyone who fought for the Confederacy, especially its leaders, like Robert E. Lee or Jefferson Davis, could not have fit the definition in the constitution any more closely. They were certainly levying war upon the United States. If I remember my history classes correctly, there were many at the time who wanted to exact vengeance upon the Confederate leaders. However, Abraham Lincoln, in his second inaugural address, called for binding the country's wounds and "with malice toward none, and charity toward all".
Anyone who actively supported the Confederate government or armed forces could also have been convicted under the "aid and comfort" clause; but I agree that it was a wise decision to not do so.
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it was a wise decision to not do so.
The example of the restoration of the monarchy and the stupid vengeance on Bonapartists after Waterloo, leading to years of chaos, may have inspired the wise decision. It was certainly an inspired choice, both practical and humanitarian.
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More clutching for straws from the knowledge-less one, Dave.

Apparently, his latest idea is to re-educate the Barons on article 61, and remind them of thier duties.

Talk about more utter nonsense! Seems the whole lawful rebellion has sprung a leak and he's trying to patch it up before it sinks!

Good old cult leaders, aye!
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Good afternoon rebels....

It seems that Lord Graigmyle (one of the committee of the barons) is getting a lot of Oaths in his mail which causes him some problems, he explained in a letter to a friend that his mailbox has become unsatisfactory with all the Oaths.
I wonder where he found the letter to a friend? Indeed, I wonder if Lord Craigmyle is really getting all that many oaths. A first class stamp and recorded deliver takes a good chunk of what is left after deducting beer money from state benefits.
I can imagine it being annoying mind you.....we don't need to send Oath to the barons we can just create one and have three wittnesses sign it.....we oroginally asked folk to send theirs to a baron to alert them that people are waking up.

The barons committee is hardly a source of power for the movement to be blunt. Some are too ill or too old to direct anything....some have passed away and others are turn coats.....we don't need to rely on the barons direction anyway as they already directed the people to peacefully rebel by invoking article 61.

Having said that, at least Lord Craigmyle has asked for more information and maybe willing to have a meeting with the more prominent members of the movement.

We need to remember that everyone has been dumbed down and even some of the most enlightened constitutional protectors of the last few dacades didn't appear to understand what article 61 states. They often seem to ignore the evidenced truth that all courts today are unauthorized since article 61 was invoked .....they seem to have a mental blockage in understanding that there are no courts of law therfore attempting to bring private prosecutions etc within the current system is absolute double think and illegal....

Hard to imagine why they cannot understand. Or, indeed, stand under this clear and obvious evidence that you have presented. Possibly you should restate the evidence?
The people do not need to be directed by the barons committee other than what they have already done (invoked article 61). It would help if they were trying to help defend those of us using the constitution perhaps but I don't see how tbh?
Would it be treason to charge some of them with treason?
Don't worry about some of them dying, the hereditary principle replaces them with a fresh younger baron.

The only remedy we have is for the people to unite in peace and to demand the constitutional law is observed by the police especially, and the judiciary of course.....its up to us regardless of what the barons do or don't do...
Barons, who needs 'em? They are now surplus to requirements, liquidate them!
.we just need to get on with it instead of arguing ....it was invoked according to the correct protocols of British constitutional law that cannot truthfully be denied. Not to stand under it is to ignore or deny the constitution, denouncing all of our rights and freedoms that it clearly protects by acquiensence......All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
You have to admit it is inspiring stuff. If Henry before Agincourt could have rallied the troops thus we might not all be speaking French now.

I cannot see this being good for more than a few months .
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David-I've got no credit on me phone-Robinson is constantly complaining that everyone else in the group is not doing enough and, until they do, the movement will be going nowhere, but what is Robinson actually doing for the cause himself? Apart, that is, from making a few stupid posts on a Facebook page. What action is Robinson taking?
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