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Hilarious - someone call the social :mrgreen:
advice needed please, in 2014 i tookmy child to turkey for a much needed holiday after lots of bullying, she missed 4 days of school, we refused the fine we had our rights read to us by the education put in seperate rooms and questioned, where me and her dad said our child we dont need permission from noone i even stated if the council want to play surrigate parent they owe me 14 years of maintence payments, we was summoned to court which wasnt a court summons but a piece of A4 paper made up by the council, so i refused my right to plea asking them who the summons was from to which they said the council, to which i said it as to be a judge who as sworn on his oath, i point blank refused to plea, so we get another court date where we take a mckenzie friend along, he asked if it was a maratime court thr judges said yes so he said we are commonlaw so why are we in this court, to cut a long story short the judges got their papers and fled, our mckenzie friend was thrown out and tackled to floor by security, so we walked out where someonne shouted you leave we will fine you in your absence, we are not staying now the judges have abandoned the ship and our advisor is being taken out so we left, i got a call from the sun newspaper telling me they fined us 600 pound each in our absence, we never received any details from the court just this 1 phonecall,iv not payed a penny they take a tenner a week from my partner for fines dating back to the 90s so i asked for a run down of these fines, a few i noticed, a lot i didnt, but did notice the 600 for school fine, so hes apparently paying it, but i get a warrant sent out, who came at the worse time a few hours after my dad had just passed away good job i didnt answer the door, i rang them and told them i did not receive a fine, im housebound i cant walk and not to hassle me she said well you will have to go to court i said im very poorly she said get a medical note, is she going to pay for that, i cant afford it im down as disabled so that should be enough, so the warrant calls again with no bail may i add, i ignore it and i email the court explaining everything they said they have passed it on to council and judge, i dont hear nothing for few weeks then this warrant officer is back what rights do i have, another thing i told the courts i took my daughter away as we were worried as she was going under through bullying and as a parent its my responsibility to see shes safe, the council instigated the bullying by allowing a rap song to be made slandering us calling us scruffs etc where it was played to the whole school knowing my child was sat there isnt that bullying, i really need help here guys.
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longdog wrote:
SteveUK wrote:
One point he found incredibly disturbing was the legislation that was passed recently to prevent the Monarch from being prosecuted for any cause, effectively putting her above the law. I showed him that our constitutional law makes this very legislation unlawful.
Recently? :shrug:
Buried in the long diatribe is the real reason the cop went to see our man, relating to a "bag of weed" and whether he would accept a caution or, if not go to court. I'd love to know the truth behind that!
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exiledscouser wrote:Buried in the long diatribe is the real reason the cop went to see our man, relating to a "bag of weed" and whether he would accept a caution or, if not go to court. I'd love to know the truth behind that!
Cop just humouring him for a bit of amusement? And wanting to share the amusement as well ..
He intends to put my challenge forward to the legal department to see if it is ignored outright or brushed under the carpet. Either way, he intends to ask questions as to its outcome.
I'd love to know the outcome as well, what does their "legal department" think of the assertion that sending off these notices means the sender doesn't have to comply with the law?
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I note that the woman in Steve's posting is impecunious and disabled. Totally broke. Too cripple to even make it to her own court hearing. Yet they seemed able to pay for a holiday jaunt to Turkey (holiday from what? Neither probably works) and she somehow managed to successfully struggle through her mobility issues enough to handle the flight and get around in Turkey.
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It seems to be a standard part of the freeman woo that you claim to be vulnerable as if that's going to stop people chasing them for debts / fines / taxes /whatever. The fact this person is in a wheelchair might make her fall within the 'vulnerable' category if somebody were doing something relevant that would affect her more because she was disabled in whatever way she is disabled, although I can't think of anything off the top of my head. The fact she's in a wheelchair has precisely fuck all to do with school holidays, fines or anything else that I can see. It's just playing the sympathy card.
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and here is our hero who was featured in a 6 part series that generated a bit of controversy

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... e-10098310
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SteveUK wrote:and here is our hero who was featured in a 6 part series that generated a bit of controversy

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... e-10098310
Following the initial disconnection, an illegal reconnection of the gas supply occurred, which was also disconnected by National Grid for the protection of the public.
Ooops :haha:
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Not only was she Mrs Wishy-Washy' but she employed the legal genius that is Sean "Where's my Ride?" Cassidy in her ultimately fruitless legal battles with the Council and school, demonstrating yet again the circular nature of these sort of approaches to life's challenges. And their futility.
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The Great Moot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w87r_lij4iY
This is something that I just noticed bit it's a few months old.

"It all went wrong but he did not do it properly' pretty well sums it up.

It might have been a greater seeming moot without the continual chatter in the background from people taking no notice whatsoever. I assume they are just casual customers at the Great Pub.

It's still quite amusing, and gives a good flavour of the mighty rebels.

I feel it would be more impressive conducted in a cellar. A bier keller.
He tries to point out some successes, but then admits they have not bothered to turn up. This may have been a high point, it does look as if about 20 people are there. Properly trained and led they could possibly seize a small branch of ASDA supermarket for , oh, several hours.

"Conor, great guy, shame he could not make it today. (mumbled aside 'Like a lot of people actually') "

It pretty much foreshadows the run of success they have enjoyed since.
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exiledscouser wrote:Not only was she Mrs Wishy-Washy' but she employed the legal genius that is Sean "Where's my Ride?" Cassidy in her ultimately fruitless legal battles with the Council and school, demonstrating yet again the circular nature of these sort of approaches to life's challenges. And their futility.

I just love the way that when you dig , you find the lunacy is tangled up in one massively, legally ineffective knot of madness.
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SteveUK wrote:and here is our hero who was featured in a 6 part series that generated a bit of controversy
I imagine they went to Turkey to try and sell off that buxom looking daughter to a Turkish waiter. a move that would have solved a few pressing problems, if not their drying ones.
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... g-10027936
Karen says she and Paul will not pay their fines and have taken further advise from their constitutional law advisor Shaun Cassidy.

Mr Cassidy was escorted from the building by a police officer during the couple’s trial on Tuesday.

The family would not return to the courtroom without him and were fined by magistrates who have given them 14 days to pay up.
I'd love to have been there, if only to yell out "And Shaun has lefffffffffft the building!"

He's gone quiet has the lad, after an initial flurry of highly amusing videos of himself tilting at GMP windmills.

He also did a number of pieces to the camera looking like a cross between Che Guevara and a forgotten member of the Village People. He also has an inexplicable Mancunian/US accent.

In case you have missed him here he is in August last year obsessing about and forensically dissecting the Cestui Que Vie Trust Act 1666.

In the comments he is taken to task for his delusional views by one Siegfried Shrink.

Whoever he is :o
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my ride to bear arms under A61 of the magna Carta


Article 61. Is there anything it can't do? :snicker:
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longdog wrote:
SteveUK wrote:and here is our hero who was featured in a 6 part series that generated a bit of controversy

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... e-10098310
Following the initial disconnection, an illegal reconnection of the gas supply occurred, which was also disconnected by National Grid for the protection of the public.
Ooops :haha:
Yes, ooops indeed!
So she is disabled but fit enough to travel to Turkey AND run a launderette?
It's an insult to people who really are disabled.
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:haha: :haha: :brickwall: :haha: :haha: :snicker: :shock:

They used "constitutional lawyer Shaun Cassidy" oh my stars!


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... g-10027936
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I'll give Shaun a little bit of credit (not for his legal skills obviously), but he will at least debate with us unawakened in a civilised manner. He truly does believe we could all do with a better world , as opposed to just solely trying to dodge tax.

He did once say this forum was libellous etc ....
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The problems Ms. Wakefield's child reportedly experienced can be traced to her parents' ill-advised foray into reality TV by choosing to appear on the programme "People Like Us" by which the subtext (I read) is "People not at all like us and just be glad you ain't one of them". It was set in the Harpurhey area of Manchester, (in)famously the home of Bernard Manning's Embassy Club and the birthplace of author Anthony Burgess - you can see where he drew inspiration for 'A Clockwork Orange' from.

Like those Life on the Dole, fly on the wall reality type TV series this was (in my view) exploitative of people on the edge of chaotic lifestyles. Young Miss Wakefield must have become the instant talk of her school when mum and dad, in search of their own selfish 15 minutes of fame got their mugs on the Idiot's Lantern. I'd have been horrified if my own mum and dad had exposed themselves in this way (fnarr fnarr!) even in black and white TV as it would have then been.

The programme makers were vilified equally by local politicians and the area's MP and run out of town when they tried to make a second series.

The Wakefields then sought more publicity from the MEN and put their own faces and that of their daughter, yet again, into the full glare of the media. That her child experienced abuse at school and possibly elsewhere is inexcusable we'd accept, if not entirely predictable. For the latter reason alone it is to me equally and obviously just another form of child abuse, this time by her parents in deliberately exposing a somewhat gawky young lass in her difficult early teenage years to the harsh eye of public scrutiny. But they won't ever admit that.

Having exhausted the main stream media Mrs. W now appears driven to seek assistance from the fearless PLD'ers who's collective advice, if followed will only pour petrol on the fire. Another set of lives ruined.
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SteveUK wrote:Hilarious - someone call the social :mrgreen:
... i really need help here guys.
My goodness, hasn't this poor woman suffered enough? Now they're expecting her to actually pay the fine for her idiotic and petulant defiance? Next they'll be suggesting that she should set a positive example to her daughter, or earn an honest living. The brutes!
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longdog wrote:It seems to be a standard part of the freeman woo that you claim to be vulnerable as if that's going to stop people chasing them for debts / fines / taxes /whatever. The fact this person is in a wheelchair might make her fall within the 'vulnerable' category if somebody were doing something relevant that would affect her more because she was disabled in whatever way she is disabled, although I can't think of anything off the top of my head. The fact she's in a wheelchair has precisely fuck all to do with school holidays, fines or anything else that I can see. It's just playing the sympathy card.
As i've said before, it's an example of sov speak. Just as they like to insist that "includes" means "excludes", they also think that "vulnerable" means "invulnerable".
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Siegfried Shrink wrote:The Great Moot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w87r_lij4iY
This is something that I just noticed bit it's a few months old.

"It all went wrong but he did not do it properly' pretty well sums it up.

It might have been a greater seeming moot without the continual chatter in the background from people taking no notice whatsoever. I assume they are just casual customers at the Great Pub.

It's still quite amusing, and gives a good flavour of the mighty rebels.

I feel it would be more impressive conducted in a cellar. A bier keller.
Maybe, but then they'd at least have to declare a provisional government, then go outside and start marching towards the nearest government building. Few of them would actually be willing to do that.
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