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David Robinson

I'm getting very tired and my health is going down hill...I've done quite a lot over the years and I am relying on logic and reason and common sense to prevail....eventually. Its exhausting work mentally but I wont ever give up whilst i'm still breathing....being battle weary I just hope that others will pick up the load and help.
I would imagine fighting a war in which you lose every battle would be rather tiring and trying to cast every defeat as a victory must be positively exhausting.

These whining posts from PAYG Dave are becoming almost a daily event. I have a sneaking suspicion Dave is starting to realise the whole Article 61 of Magnum Charter doesn't work and never will work and he's wasting his time. He seems to be building up to an anti-climax where he withdraws from the whole thing while blaming everybody else for the abject failure of the rebellion... "It works and I've shown it works but everybody else is doing it wrong so I'm moving on to the next cunning plan"... The inevitable end of all of these groups.
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Or at least smell it when there are positive mountains of it from the likes of dingy David. He truly is clueless.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

I'd credit that to Ozy, but I think Dave is more worthy.
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JimUk1 wrote:Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

I'd credit that to Ozy, but I think Dave is more worthy.
Robinson version - Look on my works, ye Mighty, and shrug
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Finally the rebellion has an MP on side...
James Gore

I've got a mp on our side I just hope he takes notice what am saying because it's our political correctness to get of the eu, Martin Costello is a ukip mp for Swindon if you would like to help me educate him about our constitution and especially about article 61 Magna Carta this could go the next level and get the next step to justice
Clearly a great leap forward... Or it would be if UKIP had any MPs :snicker:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/cons ... /E14000947
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SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
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longdog wrote:Finally the rebellion has an MP on side...
James Gore

I've got a mp on our side I just hope he takes notice what am saying because it's our political correctness to get of the eu, Martin Costello is a ukip mp for Swindon if you would like to help me educate him about our constitution and especially about article 61 Magna Carta this could go the next level and get the next step to justice
Clearly a great leap forward... Or it would be if UKIP had any MPs :snicker:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/cons ... /E14000947

So the dummy's don't know the difference between a candidate and an MP now.
Why are we not surprised.
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Creepy Charles is back again with news of an impending 'PEOPLES COURT" which will undo all the treasonous treason and treachery done against him by traitors who traitorously refuse to use his exact full name...

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I particularly like the fact he claims that "I have never in my life used any NAME but CHARLES ERNEST SPENCER" while posting as 'Charles Spencer'.

It looks like this people's court will have the power to pass the death sentence but fear not DMBC and B&S for you can save your necks for a mere £3,000,000 each.

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Crab Bait, having been so successful in warding off council tax collection, congratulates Chuckie on his progress towards HMP Doncaster...
Robert White

I like it Charles no holding back mate, looks like they've had enough of you and ready to hand it back to the council.
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I never cease to be amazed by the unwitting irony of these people. They rant and rave and make threats against a system that deals far more leniently with dissent than what these people would do themselves if they were in positions of power. Sometimes it's almost sickening to see how little they appreciate living in a first-world country.
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longdog wrote:I particularly like the fact he claims that "I have never in my life used any NAME but CHARLES ERNEST SPENCER" while posting as 'Charles Spencer'.
I'm confused now, don't the FMOTLs claim that the "all capitals" name is a fiction? Yet he claims it as his one and only true name. And his email address seems to be all lower case.
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The solution is right in front of us all. All Bristow & Suitor need to do is address him in their next letter as "Dear Proper Charlie". He can't legitimately argue that it isn't his correct name.
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I like the fact he demands £3 million, or he takes it to a fictional court in a local weatherpsoons.

I'm just imagining Dr. Evil right now.

"£3 million pounds, or I take it to a people's court with no enforcement powers" (evil laughter).

Yes Charles, you can expect a cheque for that sum anytime.......never.

Moron!
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aesmith wrote:
longdog wrote:I particularly like the fact he claims that "I have never in my life used any NAME but CHARLES ERNEST SPENCER" while posting as 'Charles Spencer'.
I'm confused now, don't the FMOTLs claim that the "all capitals" name is a fiction? Yet he claims it as his one and only true name. And his email address seems to be all lower case.
Not only that. His signature is Charles Ernest Spencer, in mixed-case letters. Shouldn't it be all CAPS?
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I'm sure that Her Majesty's Courts have much better things that to come down hard on a small-time lunatic, but if some prosecutor wanted to make a case of it, couldn't this letter be interpreted as a threat of murder (save your self from the ROPE), and and extortion (give me 3,000,000 to avoid the rope)?
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BoomerSooner17 wrote:I never cease to be amazed by the unwitting irony of these people. They rant and rave and make threats against a system that deals far more leniently with dissent than what these people would do themselves if they were in positions of power. Sometimes it's almost sickening to see how little they appreciate living in a first-world country.
I think ironic is putting it mildly, since the first reaction of most of this crowd is to shout treason and demand a hanging. They also seem to take anyone disagreeing with "their" revealed word as treason as well. So ironic is again putting it mildly.

Chuck Spencer here is a prime example of shouting about his rights etc and yet not remaining even momentarily consistent. Sounds a right tiresome and quarrelsome individual, on top of being incredibly ignorant.
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Least us not forget Charles is hardline anti-Eu and immigration.
Yet his girlfriend is from Ukraine and they won't let her in or claim benefits for her kids (which appear to be still in the Ukraine) and he went of kicking and screaming.

He really is a jackass of the highest order.
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Ah , but surely the Magna Carta specifically stated you can buy a foreign wife, her kids , and have the tax payer the foot the bill and waive immigration law?
Is it SteveUK or STEVE: of UK?????
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SteveUK wrote:Ah , but surely the Magna Carta specifically stated you can buy a foreign wife, her kids , and have the tax payer the foot the bill and waive immigration law?

As yes I remember, Steve!

That clause (Article 701) was added by PLDers to fit their own interpretation of Magnum Carter, as witnessed by Clint Eastwood.
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The lord speak!

And this time it's er...the implementation of 5G that's the problem?

(I've finally found out how to copy and paste off if Facebook!)

Enjoy this bizarre rambling.

Practical Lawful Dissent. public group | Facebook

THE SILENT MAJORITY.

Whereas the majority of the people are well intentioned, despite what the images on the neon god depicts, it shouldn't take a large stretch of the imagination to realize that there are a lot of well intentioned people working within the regime.

My pwesonal experiences have shown me that this is the case. In fact when I was using the process back in 2012 against Chippenham Magistrates (not) court I had two ex magistrates attend the hearing (that I never went to) in support of my stance and, they were reporting back to a serving high court judge who was very concerned at what was happening to the judiciary. He was to afraid to stand against it himself however.

Also along the path I met various police constables whom listened to what I had to say and show them, they were all quietly supportive of what I was doing but each said the same, their hands were tied and they knew the consequences of standing up against the regime. They are tied into the system of course like most people are.

I also met some obviously psychotic policy enforcers that didn't care that treason was being committed, I have been asked "and what do you think your going to do about it?" his words said behind cold grey eyes, but they are, or were, in the minority from my experiences....I can tell quite easily when I speak to the cops....they have been uneducated and lied to with regard to the law so most think they are acting according to it.

Most of the heads of departments, police, councills etc have been chosen for their servility or psychopathy..they have been influenced by common purpose and NLP'd....and they run a tight pirate ship so dissenters would not keep their jobs, trapped by mortgages and credit there is little alternative for such folk but to comply to the will of their superiors...

If only a few people defend the constitution and take action to defend both their right not to aid and abet high treason, and thier duty to educate those doing the bidding of the criminal regime, then they will do as they are now, ignore us and carry on regardless BUT when the people UNITE things have the potential to change...for one they would feel more secure knowing that hundreds if not thousands of people would back them up in their dissent and/or they wpuld take a much closer look at the facts if they thought by not doing so they would be held personably liable for their actions or omissions...

Sadly, because you have to be intelligent, peaceful and have courage to stand by the truth in such a corrupt regime, most people don't have the right credentials to help....all the toxins within society are evidently having their effect on the brains of the people,

We don't need them, there is surely 500,000 people who would be able to understand the facts with regard to British law and how it has been gradually eroded over generations...its all completely evidential...it is up to us all to do the educating.

The truth is not complex its all basically very simple. Btitain is a common law jurisdiction and if not TREASON MUST have been committed. The constitution is the supreme law in Britain or treason has been committed. The legal system is anything but legal as it does not comply with the constitution and the rule of law.

It is by royal command of a constitutional monarch that we have no choice but to rebel peacefully once Article 61 of Magna Carta has been invoked. Its the ONLY way we can remain within the law in fact. And that applies to everyone...

So in conclusion, we need to unite to provide the silent majority with an excuse to do the right thing, most importantly addressing the police....there is no certaintly that we will be successful but there is opportunity, without opportunity there is no chance of success at all.....

its up to you as much as its up to me to end the lies and bring the truth to the fore....tick tock folks....soon the window of opportunity will be closed and trust me, you will then wish to god that you had tried all that you could to prevent what is coming.

5G is only the tip of the iceberg....we already have political prisoners in Britain and when Treason May alignes EU law to British law the EU extradition warrants will be issued. Without any evidence of crime whatsoever anyone can be deported to anywhere within the EU for up to 9 months before trial by tribunal....if you survive that long.

Without realizing the dangers we are in people don't realize the need to take action....I wonder just how bad it has to get before the clear and present danger is realized...peace.
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Thanks for posting that. I like a good rant and I am always willing to be swayed by silver tongued oratory. If it had been proof read before publishing I might have been convinced.

I suspect any sympathy he may have detected would have come from the 'humour the poor chap' school, and the less sympathetic hearing from the 'take no nonsense' school. I'm inclined to humour eccentricity because the grey worsted of life can benefit from a few bright threads even if I'd prefer my oncologist, flight engineer or plumber to be reasonably rational.

As a movement, one thing that dooms this one is that there is nothing attractive about it.
There is nothing for the average punter to look forward to. You need to recruit donkeys for a mass movement and there are no carrots. People could be attracted by any base motive, the communists were offered a chunk of the wealth of the rich, socialists are offered 'a more equal society' which is much the same thing, Scot-Nats are offered Home Rule, but few people care one way or the other about anything the PLDers offer.

Redemption scams and prosperity funds have concrete if imaginary rewards, PLD seems to offer naught but the odd treason trial in a manner that would make most people think they had a good chance of being on the end of the avenging rope.

The dissenters need to introduce an element of desirability into their rhetoric. Free money in some form or another works well, as does the opportunity for hurting anyone you don't like, however you dress that up. Even some more abstract but popular goals like bashing the EU gain traction, look at UKIP. Besides being nonsense the objectives of PLD are so abstract they are just not attractive to any but a very, very small number of people, numbers in the fingers of one hand order of magnitude.

My free to air, just spitballing, not for profit suggestion is for them to concentrate on women as property. No, hear me out!
In Magna Carta times, women had more or less the status of domestic animals, indeed far more recently unwanted wives could be sold at the market. Now here is the thing, abandoning the prospect of much female support could be a good strategic move, if men in general could be offered back the delights of the scold's bridle, the automatic accquisition of all of your wives property, no votes for women, the right to physical punishment with a reasonably sized stick or whip, and so merrily olde worldely on.

The PLDers need to emphasise the more exciting of the Magna Cartaland fun and games and play down that boring corrupt court stuff. Even the general run of criminals don't really have any problem with the courts.
I do have a general strategy and specific proposals to dress up my female disenfranchisement plan but I don't think the existing PLDers could afford my fees.
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A very well written piece SS.

I guess if you analyse what David is really saying, is the onset of a communistic dictatorship.

They appear to have a perception that it is a certain tier of Britons that are enforcing policy's detrimental to their own positions.

Rather than work for something, they appear to full expect everyone to have to the same regardless of work accomplished.

Also, rather than have a discussion about why certainly laws and legislation has arisen they simply dismiss it is a conspiracy to further enslave the poorer members of the state.

Which is some instances it could be deemed counterproductive when a new bill goes through Parliament, which will only benefit the better off members of the state, but the onus is still on the individual.

As far as I can tell, PLD only offers a 'sure guarantee' for debt redemption with all this Magna Carta crap, that's the only thing Dave touts. But as rational people will no doubt be aware; or simply doesn't exist.