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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby littleFred » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:18 pm

Yeah, because "CT(A&E)R" stands for "Council Tax (Arse and Elbow) Regulations".

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Postby Hercule Parrot » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:08 am

Where do they get these imaginary rights and laws? Its funny and tragic at the same time.

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby NYGman » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:50 am

Hercule Parrot wrote:Where do they get these imaginary rights and laws? Its funny and tragic at the same time.


Baseball, they are referring to the 3 strikes you're out rule. So now, the rules of baseball apply to UK courts.
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Postby notorial dissent » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:04 am

I thought the finger went somewheres else, but that may have just been a mistranslation. :snicker:
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby grixit » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:05 am

I'm surprised no one has advised her to cover her eyes because then the courts/council/bailiffs can't see her.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby AndyPandy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:57 pm

So I wonder how Gail got on, did she attend?

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby rumpelstilzchen » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:32 pm

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Does membership in a Facebook group called "Council Tax My Arse" qualify as "willful refusal?"

I would say that because there is no question mark after the word "Tax" the sentence reads like a request to the council for even more taxation.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby letissier14 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:20 pm

One of the last posts made about this, and still no word on how she got on today as of yet.

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby AndyPandy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:41 pm

It's like a train crash, you see it coming, want to look away because you know what's going to happen but you can't! :shock:

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby Arthur Rubin » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm

rumpelstilzchen wrote:
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Does membership in a Facebook group called "Council Tax My Arse" qualify as "willful refusal?"

I would say that because there is no question mark after the word "Tax" the sentence reads like a request to the council for even more taxation.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby Hercule Parrot » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:18 pm

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More false advice from the ever-imaginative internet lawyers. If Gail executed a real POA through the proper process, then the Police would probably give additional information, access and co-operation to the named person. However there is no "right to require" in UK law, despite what Darron Hodgkinson may think. Young Master Briggs could stand outside the Police Station waving his piece of paper all night, it would be cheerfully ignored. Every British Constable is expertly-trained in the deployment of stolid indifference.

But this is nonsense anyway, because excepting certain special circumstances (terrorism, witness nobbling etc) an arrested person is actually entitled to make a phone call to their family or friends, without any magic piece of paper.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby Hyrion » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:25 pm

AndyPandy wrote:It's like a train crash, you see it coming... [snip]

Not quire like a train crash. A train is stuck on it's path, is heavily weighted down and needs a LOT of stopping space so the engineer is kinda stuck on what s/he can do when they first spot the problem.

In this case: it's a person who is going down a path they can easily choose to change and instead are making choices to deliberately make the situation worse.

A better analogy would be someone walking a tightrope over a deadly deep canyon who has no concept of what that means, has never walked such a device before, and instead of the offered pole to help keep balance they want to roller blade across.

The only question I've ever had is: how far are they going to take their current strategy before reality sets in?

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby TheNewSaint » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:03 pm

It's like Jackass: Law and Order Edition. "Hi, my name is Gail, and I'm going to not pay my taxes for three years and then claim immunity under the Magna Carta."

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby NYGman » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:43 pm

Anyone heard from Gail, or has she been blown off the map?

Just went to look, and the group is closed, I thought the other day when I was looking, it was open... Interesting
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby rumpelstilzchen » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:56 pm

NYGman wrote:Anyone heard from Gail, or has she been blown off the map?

On Wednesday night she made a post stating that she was not going to attend the committal hearing and she had told her son to keep all doors and windows locked.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby notorial dissent » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:12 pm

I suspect things didn't go well and she is either hiding out or in jail.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby AndyPandy » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:44 pm

notorial dissent wrote:I suspect things didn't go well and she is either hiding out or in jail.


I've absolutely no doubt an arrest warrant was issued and they'll be kicking that door down soon.

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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:01 pm

Hercule Parrot wrote:More false advice from the ever-imaginative internet lawyers. If Gail executed a real POA through the proper process, then the Police would probably give additional information, access and co-operation to the named person.
I generally agree, but POA is usually only needed where the person giving the POA has some serious problems like health issues or mental capacity issues and the Police would be smart enough to realise this. I don't know what the process is but I would think it would be possible to get the POA declared sham or void. The alternative of course is that they strictly enforce it: not listening to what Gail says but referring everything to the son. Either way leaves open the pair of them getting charged with wasting Police time.
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby rumpelstilzchen » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:16 pm

She asked "How do I give him power of attorney?"
The reply: "Simply write it out and sign it"
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Re: Council Tax My Arse Facbook page

Postby aesmith » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:35 pm

ArthurWankspittle wrote:I generally agree, but POA is usually only needed where the person giving the POA has some serious problems like health issues or mental capacity issues and the Police would be smart enough to realise this. I don't know what the process is but I would think it would be possible to get the POA declared sham or void. The alternative of course is that they strictly enforce it: not listening to what Gail says but referring everything to the son. Either way leaves open the pair of them getting charged with wasting Police time.

I think an ordinary power of attorney is fairly straightforward, just needs to be drafted signed and witnessed. The complicated one is the "Lasting Power of Attorney" (formerly "Enduring") which is the one drawn up while the person is fully capable, then lies dormant until activated if they become incapacitated. I've used both, the ordinary one to allow a solicitor to sign some agreements on my behalf in my absence, that was strictly limited in time and in scope. Ordinary POA becomes void if the donor loses mental capacity.


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