Elizabeth buys any debts

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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby littleFred » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:04 pm

Hercule Parrot wrote:No, it doesn't. There's an important distinction between selling a right and selling an obligation.

(In the following, I assume UK law.)

Yes, indeed. The hypothetical daughter has a contract with her power company. She can't unilaterally transfer her liability to another person, unless the contract allows this, or the power company agrees otherwise.

We generally have a right to pay other people's bills if we want. Creditors don't care who pays the bill, provided it gets paid.

Elisabeth could pay a debtor's bill if she wanted, and wouldn't need permission from the debtor or creditor. But she claims that debtors can unilaterally transfer liabilities for debts to her, so the debtor can no longer be chased even if she doesn't pay. She is wrong; that's not how contracts work.

When I bumped into this, I immediately assumed it was for ID theft. Perhaps I was overly suspicious, and it is merely another stupid scheme for "getting out of debt free".

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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby Hercule Parrot » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:49 pm

littleFred wrote:When I bumped into this, I immediately assumed it was for ID theft. Perhaps I was overly suspicious, and it is merely another stupid scheme for "getting out of debt free".


I think it's another stupid scheme for "getting out of debt free".

By my reading, the intention is for debtors to believe that this arrangement will transfer their contractual liability to Ms Nolson, who will then mess the creditors around with pretend payments and miscellaneous woo until they abandon attempts to recover it.

I don't know if Ms Nolson genuinely believes that she can take their obligations upon herself. I don't know if she thinks she's clever enough to outwit all the DCA's and Bailiffs. I suspect she's pretty much penniless and imagines that she can adopt a mountain of other people's debts and then declare bankruptcy. Maybe she intends to materially profit from this, but my impression is that it's just an ego trip.
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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby Burnaby49 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:09 am

In Canada, and I assume elsewhere, you can't transfer a debt without the permission of the creditor. Since no creditor would allow a debtor to transfer a debt liability to a nitwit like Elizabeth this scheme makes no sense on any level. The creditor, if told of the arrangment, would just ignore Elizabeth and go after the original debtor.
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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby notorial dissent » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:37 am

When I first saw this an identity theft scam came to mind, then it dawned on me why would you steal a deadbeat's identity? You wouldn't unless you were really really stupid.

Then I realized who the scammer was. I am not altogether sure but what she isn't stark staring nuts to begin with considering her past exploits, but I do know she doesn't have clue one about how the law actually works, so then it made much more sense. I am not sure but what she doesn't exist in an alternate, fantasy, reality.
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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby TheNewSaint » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:39 am

This is just another WeRe Bank, with "kindness credits" instead of Re.

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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby YiamCross » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:28 pm

I thought I'd resurrect this thread as Leasa daughter of Nolson (Eiisabeth with an s, not a z btw) seems to be appearing in a few other threads lately and it might be well to keep them together as she seems to be getting quite active. This for instance:

Elisabeth Nolson
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Nationwide : currency is Kindness oh dear ... you are now going to join VISA in a prosecution of intellectual property theft and copyright infringement ... your currency as it is slavery is anything except kind... thanks Gilly for putting yourself infront of the brainwash box to discover this little theft.x

I wonder if she will actually take it to court? Could be interesting.

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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby YiamCross » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:31 pm

Some more sound advice by our Leasa in response to a woman complaining that 2 representatives of the Bank of Cyprus invaded her privacy to leave a writ at her house. Then again it does rather indicate the quality of her followers is not of the best.


Elisabeth Nolson I would call the bimb disposal unit ... and report an attempt of terrorism attack... unknown abandoned envelopes containing terrorist activities... lets use anti terrorism act x
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Claire Thompson
Claire Thompson really? I don't know if I can handle that? I'm facing action at work and gave another tribunal approaching for this home. my nerves all at once can't take this I'm falling apart :( wouldn't I get in trouble for wasting police time I also believe there's perhaps an outstanding warrant for no insurance court case I never attended. x
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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby longdog » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:24 pm

A bimb?

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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby ArthurWankspittle » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:34 pm

YiamCross wrote:Claire Thompson
Claire Thompson really? I don't know if I can handle that? I'm facing action at work and gave another tribunal approaching for this home. my nerves all at once can't take this I'm falling apart :( wouldn't I get in trouble for wasting police time I also believe there's perhaps an outstanding warrant for no insurance court case I never attended. x
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Eh? Is this even in English?
and gave another tribunal approaching for this home.
"Tribunal approaching off the port bow, captain." "Tribunal for the home now in session."
there's perhaps an outstanding warrant for no insurance
So not only a bimb but no ansiraaance for the minkey.
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Re: Elizabeth buys any debts

Postby JimUk1 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:55 pm

longdog wrote:A bimb?

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Yus, a vury lee-arge one.


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